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Thursday, 22 November 2012

Paul LeBlond Sea Monsters

http://mythicmysteriesmiscellany.devhub.com/blog/910407-identifying-the-unidentifiable/

I found this on a photo search yesterday and I found it EXTREMELY interesting.

Identifying the Unidentifiable

 
July 27, 2012
The three types of unidentified sea creatures described by Dr. Paul LeBlond. (Linda Godfrey)

Ancient myths paint unknown sea creatures as true monsters, or beings that combine characteristics of different species and that may possess supernatural powers. But the modern view of sea“monsters” is usually that they are unknown, natural animals. But what kind of animal are they? Reptile? Amphibian? Mammal? Some researchers have analyzed as many eyewitness accounts as possible and created models that most closely match all these descriptions.

The task itself is monstrous, given the many stories reported over the years by hundreds of people in all types of weather and light conditions, from varied distances and points of view. Creatures that resemble giant whales, squid, or other known ocean dwellers demand separate categories. And those that most closely fit the public’s mental image of sea monsters have been described with many combinations of long necks, “humps,” flippers, headsranging from turtle-like to horse-like, lengths from 20 to over 100 feet, and skin both scaled and smooth. Yet most classifiers have managed to boil them down into some basic subtypes.

In 1963 French zoologist Bernard Heuvelmans wrote a classic book, In the Wake of the Sea Serpents, that attempted to place sightings from around the world into nine categories: long-necked, merhorse, many humped, super-otters, many-finned, super-eels, marine saurians, yellow- bellies, and fathers-of-all-the-turtles. While it is now alleged that Heuvelmans skewed data to fit his own ideas in some cases, he is still known as the “father of cryptozoology” for his pioneering work on unknown species.

Inspired partly by Heuvelman’s work, scientists Dr. Paul H. LeBlond of the University of British Columbia’s Institute of Oceanography and Dr. John Sibert looked at reports of large, unknown creatures inhabiting the waters of British Columbia and found three subtypes that sound much like sea monsters reported around the world. These were repeated in a 1980 book by biologist and author Roy P. Mackal, who cautioned that the three categories may not represent separate species and in fact might simply show differences between male and female:
1. A creature with large eyes set laterally on a horse- or camel-shaped head mounted at the end of a long neck. This animal is a fast swimmer, has short, dark-brown fur and no mane. It is probably a mammal and may be related to seals.
2. An animal similar to the first type but with small eyes, sometimes described with horns or mane. Both types are not only fast, but also smooth swimmers, submerging vertically as if pulled under.
3. A long, serpentine animal, showing loops of its body above water and swimming fast, with much thrashing. Its head is described as sheeplike with small eyes, and it has a dorsal fin running along part of its back.

I can identify each of these creatures quite easily but they do not ordinarily come so assorted. Usually the more normal animal-shaped creatures 1 or 2 are also trailing a lenth of tail or wake which gives the appearance of number 3. In fact the sheeplike head of number 3 is comparable to number 1 or 2. In assorting these categories out, 1 and 2 are fairly small animals although they can be reported as being larger (again, according to how long of a "Tail" they are trailing.) 1 and 2 are obviously the same sort of creature and they can be characterised as "Plain" #1 and "Fancy"#2, with the latter embellished by mane or beard, horns or floppy ears.
 
But here is another view for clarification: http://theworldlink.com/news/local/hunting-sea-beasts/article_b27b6ae2-bcee-11e1-ab27-0019bb2963f4.html
 

Hunting sea beasts


 


2012-06-23T07:00:00Z2012-06-26T08:26:41ZHunting sea beastsDaniel Simmons-Ritchie, The WorldThe World
June 23, 2012 7:00 am •
 



COOS BAY — My editor called me insane.
“I need money,” I said. “I need a boat.”
My editor, as a broad rule, does not believe in sea monsters. Even those, like the Cadborosaurus, that have been seen by over 300 seafarers.
If I’m insane, I argued to my editor on a Friday afternoon in The World office, then I must be in good company.
No more than 60 years ago, a fishing crew watched an unknown creature approach their ship off Cape Arago.
If those men were insane, so too perhaps were the fishermen who recorded a humped beast in Alaskan waters in 2009. Footage later appeared on the Discovery Channel.
If we are insane, then our ringleader must be Paul LeBlond, an emeritus professor from the University of British Columbia. For 50 years, LeBlond has collated hundreds of monster sightings.
Commonly described as a “horse-headed megaserpent,” the creature has all the hallmarks of the Loch Ness Monster. In the Pacific Northwest, experts know the beast by a different name: The Cadborosaurus.
Skeptical? LeBlond asks doubters to read about the Cadborosaurus before brushing it aside.
“This isn’t like UFOs that are a stretch of the imagination,” LeBlond said. “This is a zoological possibility. There are still animals being discovered in the ocean.”
In the interest of pushing the zoological frontier, I wanted to charter a boat in search of the Cadborosaurus. My dream was to be the first man to lay claim to the brute.
It was the hunt for the leviathan.
Expedition
I set sail from Charleston Marina on the 14th of June with a five-man crew, pressed between 15-knot winds and the allure of the unknown.
The odds were against us. While the Cadborosaurus is sighted from California to Alaska, it has been more than 50 years since one was spied off Cape Arago.
Among experts, British Columbia is known as ground zero for Cadborosaurus sightings. In the 1930s, the beast was named after its frequent sightings in Cadboro Bay, Vancouver Island.
But even in the heart of “Caddie” country, the serpent is elusive. Despite several expeditions, LeBlond has never seen one in real life. In late May, a National Geographic film crew at his side, the Canadian made another unsuccessful search.
LeBlond didn’t rate the chances of my own expedition.
“You would basically keep your eyes open and go to sea without a strong expectation of seeing anything, because the creature is rarely seen,” he said.
But he offered some advice: Keep your camera ready. Too many photo opportunities have been missed by distracted observers.
“They stand there ogling the creature and forget about their camera,” he said. “One good photo is worth a lot of eyewitness observations.”
My crew was up for the challenge. Although my editor was absent, I had a World photographer at my side.
I also had Mel Campbell of the Wild Women of Charleston. When Campbell heard of The World’s expedition, she insisted on joining.
“I just have this feeling, a good feeling that today is the day. Don’t you?” said Campbell, as our boat churned through the brackish water of the Charleston channel.
And, unlike LeBlond, I had the eagle eyes of Margie Whitmer, the owner of Betty Kay Charters.
Fate had brought me to Whitmer, a red-haired woman with a warm, motherly charm. When I first called, she not only agreed to reserve me her 47-foot boat; she also told me, unexpectedly, that her father had sighted a Cadborosaurus off the coast of Washington.
Margie recounted the story: It was 1956. Whitmer’s father was salmon fishing with four friends on a foggy day in Neah Bay. A creature appeared, which he described as “long, dark, bigger than a boat.”
“He said, ‘I’m never going out again in an open boat, a small boat, for salmon,’” Whitmer said. “It scared him that much.”
I asked whether her father might have been joking.
Whitmer shook her head.
“He was just very serious, to the point that you know he was rattled,” she said. “And he was a big strong man and nothing could disturb him. But that sure did.”
Sea
After 30 minutes, we reached open water. We were alone now, two miles from land, a crouton in a teal soup.
Our boat churned toward Cape Arago lighthouse, our eyes probing the horizon.
An hour passed and our hopes began to fray. No necks. No humps. No fins.
Compounding matters, seasickness began to take hold of me. I could barely hold my harpoon.
We charted a course homeward.
Return
As our boat pulled into the marina, a sea lion lazed on the pier. In a search built on hearsay and dreams, its flesh, so blubbery and tangible, taunted me.
Be it Cadboro Bay or Loch Ness, few monsters appear to those who search for them. Most witnesses, like Whitmer’s father, stumble on the beast by accident.
Sadly, those sightings are never enough for the insatiable appetite of the scientific record.
Jan Hodder, a Charleston-based marine biologist from Oregon State University, says while little is known about many deep sea creatures, those closer to shore are well-documented.
“Just think of how many people are on the ocean all the time,” she said.
A British paleontologist, Darren Naish, is less polite. He says Cadborosaurus mavens, like Paul LeBlond, have created a composite creature based on body parts from different sightings.
“Accounts used to support the reality of ‘Cadborosaurus’ likely represent a hodge-podge of seal and deer sightings, as well as sightings of other animals and phenomena,” Naish wrote in his blog for Scientific American.
These comments are fuel to the fire of unbelief. While I remain empty-handed today, I am cheered by a 1933 editorial in the Victoria Daily Times by Archie Willis, an editor more imaginative than my own.
“Any fool can disbelieve in sea serpents,” he wrote.
Reporter Daniel Simmons-Ritchie can be reached at 541-269-1222, ext. 249, or at dritchie@theworldlink.com.

Basically you have a situation with sightings assumed to be in the shape of the newspaper article's sketch. Creatures with necks 3-6 feet long need to be separated out from the more definitely Longnecked category of creatures reported with necks 6-12 feet long (and perhaps twice that actually.) and a body length of 10-20 feet long to go with the shorter-necked category but 20-40 feet to go along with the longer necks 12 feet long or so. (That is, the LongNecked creatures are up to 30-50 feet long total, length of neck assumed about 1/3 to 1/4 of total length, and shoter-necked creatures in the range of 10-20 feet long total with a head like that of a horse or camel reported on both categories, only a neck reported as half as long in the smaller category. The larger sized longer necked category now matches with Tim Dinsdale's Reconstruction of the Loch Ness Monster in its basic measurements and proportions.)

We can now return to LeBlonde's creatures listed above.
His long bodied creature is clearly the same as "THE GREAT SEA SERPENT" Otherwise reported World-wide in all bodies of water, freshwater and saltwater, and described in similar terms all over. It is also illustrated as the tail section of the newspaper article's monster sketch



The two kinds of animals identified by LeBlond and pictured at the top of this article are the bull and cow moose, and type 2 is indeed the "Adorned"version with more abundant mane and horns (antlers) but still within the same species, as the original document has stated. a big bull moose can   be as much as over 15-16 feet longtip of snout to tip of tail.  Those estimates of 20 feet long overall were really quite close

Swimming Cow Moose and Calf

Swimming Bull Moose


Pristichampsus version of Bernard Heuvelmans' Merhorse
From Deviant art and presuming the "Horns or fins" seen on top of the head along with the mane
are actually ears (darkened here) and that the tail is short (Shortened here). The "Beard" corresponds to the "Bell" and overall this is a good match for the proportions of a swimming moose. therer is even the distinct impression that the rear foot has a cloven hoof, but that is probably coincidental. Once again, the lowst sizes of 15-20 feet (often reported as 30 feet long, the minimum specified by Heuvelmans but the maximum specified by Costello) are also a very good estimate for the
 actual size of a large moose when seen swimming in the water.
                  

Wednesday, 21 November 2012

Scott Mardis on The Great Horned Serpent

Part three on Plesiosaurian correspondances of Lake Champlain creatures compares an old Native pictograph of the Great Horned Serpent to a modern reconstruction of a Plesiosaur:
 
Scott Mardis
here's the provenence again if you need a reference.http://www.academia.edu/823402/Horned_Panthers_and_Erie_Associates
no petroglyph date in paper but is old and represents the Chepichcalm, MicMac horned serpent

    Tuesday, 20 November 2012

    Alternative Moha Moha by Scott Mardis

    Scott Mardis thinks it is possible that the sighting of the Moha Moha on the Great Barrier reef might have been of a Plesiosaur after all: some Plesiosaurs apparently had fins on their tails.

    Monday, 19 November 2012

    Daily Mail Giant Anaconda photos

    A reader sent me notice of the article and said "The one photo of the big Anaconda out on land (not in the water) looks like your descriptions of the Black Boa," On the possibility he might be right, I am running the photos.

    What lies beneath.... Diver braves the waters to swim with deadly 26-foot anaconda

    • Swiss diver Franco Banfi went to the Mato Grosso region of Brazil to capture these amazing close-up of enormous anaconda snakes in their natural habitat

    • These underwater beasts feed on rodents, birds and fish, lurking close to surface coiled and ready to strike

    By Adam Shergold
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    Friday, 16 November 2012

    Lake Champlain Plesiosaurs

    Jeff Johnson's theoretical interpretation of the Sandra Mansi photo and an actual plesiosaur fossil in a limestone matrix from the U.K.. Jeff has modified the photo to indicate the theoretical body underwater
     Scott Mardis published these photo comparisons of the Mansi Lake Champlain creature with known skeleons of Plesiosaurs as they are on display in several museums. These are the actual skeletons and aere not "Corrected" in any way to make the body or neck seem unnaturally flexible.


    And another lifesized museum model of this same kind of Plesiosaur that these Lake and Sea Monsters seem to be most closely related to.   Best Wishes, Dale D.

    Wednesday, 14 November 2012

    Loch Ness Monster Photographed?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2017649/Loch-Ness-Monster-stick-Walker-claims-photographed-creature.html

    Loch Ness Monster? Or a stick...? After a 45-year hunt, walker claims to have photographed elusive creature

    By Daily Mail Reporter




    At first glance it looks like another dark ripple on the water.
    But study the photograph more closely and a dark hump and tail can be seen poking through the water's surface, or so a life-long hunter of the Loch Ness monster hunter claims.
    William Jobes, 62, believes that he may have at last captured the elusive creature on camera after 45 years of trying.
    Is it you, Nessy? A possible hump and part of a tail, or perhaps a spike on the creature's back, can be seen breaking the surface of the water near Fort Augustus, Scotland
    Is it you, Nessy? A possible hump and part of a tail, or perhaps a spike on the creature's back, can be seen breaking the surface of the water near Fort Augustus, Scotland

    Misty morning: Loch Ness monster hunter William Jobes, 62, is certain that the black mark 200 - 300 yards from the shore is the body of the elusive creature
    Misty morning: Loch Ness monster hunter William Jobes, 62, is certain that the black mark 200 - 300 yards from the shore is the body of the elusive creature
    Mr Jobes was walking along the Abbey footpath in Fort Augustus with his wife Joan in May this year when he spotted what appeared to be a head bobbing above the water 200 to 300 yards from the shore.

    'I had a wonderful shock,' Mr Jobes said.'I have actually been coming up to Inverness for the past 45 years and I have never seen anything like this before.'
    Amateur photographer: Mr Jobes says the beast went under the water then came back to the surface
    Amateur photographer: Mr Jobes says the beast went under the water then came back to the surface
    Quickly grasping his camera, Mr Jobes from Irvine in Ayrshire, managed to take a single picture before the 'head' disappeared under the surface.
    However, to his delight a dark, hump-like shape broke the waves and he was able to take more photographs of the apparent sighting on May 24 at just after 11.10am.
    Mr Jobes is convinced it was not a seal or piece of wood.
    'To be honest I know the difference between a piece of wood or a particular animal,' he said.
    'I immediately did think it was a seal but it's head was like a sheep.'
    However, veteran Nessie hunter Steve Feltham, remains sceptical, although he admits the hump photograph cannot be immediately explained and is worth further investigation.
    'The river comes out there and something large could have come down the river and flowed out there,' he suggested.
    Mr Jobes' is the second potential sighting of nessie so far this summer.
    Last month Foyers shop and cafe owner Jan Hargreaves and her husband Simon believe they caught a glimpse of the creature.


    The apparent sighting of Nessie comes after a couple were left shocked when they discovered the rotting body of a sea monster while walking along a beach at Bridge of Don, Aberdeen.
    Margaret and Nick Flippence made the incredible find as they exercised their dogs at the popular beauty spot.
    Deep: A photographer looks over the carcass of a sea creature that was washed up along a beach at Bridge of Don, Aberdeen, earlier this month
    Deep: A photographer looks over the carcass of a sea creature that was washed up along a beach at Bridge of Don, Aberdeen, earlier this month
    Startling discovery: The monster captured on video in 2009 in Alaska appeared to be up to 30ft with humps on its back
    Startling discovery: The monster captured on video in 2009 in Alaska appeared to be up to 30ft with humps on its back
    Mr Flippence, 59, who lives nearby, said: 'We were stunned. I thought, "oh my God what is it?"
    Curled up by the foot of sand dunes was the 30ft-long body of the unidentified animal with head, tail and teeth all discernible.

    NESSIE: A LIFE IN THE DEPTHS

    Mythical: The Loch Ness Monster has had many sightings in the Scottish Highlands including this picture taken in 1934 allegedly showing the creature
    The Loch Ness Monster has been the subject of many sightings in the Scottish Highlands, including this picture taken in 1934 apparently showing the creature.
    Some experts believe that the beast represents a line of long-surviving plesiosaurs, a type of carnivorous aquatic reptile from millions of years ago.
    Nessie is similar to other supposed lake monsters in Scotland and elsewhere, though its description varies from one account to the next.
    The myth surrounding the creature has developed since it was first brought to the world's attention in 1933 when George Spicer and his wife saw 'a most extraordinary form of animal' cross the road in front of their car.
    They claimed that the creature had a long body and a narrow neck resembling an elephant's trunk.
    Evidence of the creature is mainly anecdotal and many of the supposed photographs are claimed to be carefully staged hoaxes.
    However, the regular sightings and the number of photographs suggest that there could be something lurking in the depths.
    Experts are now examining the pictures with one suggesting it could be the body of a whale.
    Before the discovery of the enormous sea carcass, a large creature, 20 to 30ft long with humps on its back, was filmed moving through the waters of an Alaskan bay.
    The unidentified creature which was filmed by local fisherman in 2009 has already drawn comparisons to Scotland's infamous Loch Ness Monster.
    Scientists believe that the Alaskan creature could be a Cadborosaurus - a type of sea serpent that got its name from Cadboro Bay in British Columbia and is said to roam the North Pacific.
    Paul LeBlond, former head of the Department of Earth and Ocean Sciences at the University of British Columbia, told Discovery News: 'I am quite impressed with the video.
    'Although it was shot under rainy circumstances in a bouncy ship, it's very genuine.'
    The Cadborosaurus willsi, meaning 'reptile' or 'lizard' from Cadboro Bay, is an alleged sea serpent from the North Pacific thought to have a long neck, a horse-like head, large eyes, and back bumps that stick out of the water.
    In 1937, a supposed body of the animal was found in the stomach of a whale captured by the Naden Harbour whaling station in the Queen Charlotte Islands, a British Columbia archipelago.
    Samples of the animal were brought to the Provincial Museum in Victoria, where curator Francis Kermode concluded they belonged to a fetal baleen whale.
    The animal's remains, however, later disappeared.
    James Wakelun, a worker at the whaling station, last year said that he saw the creature's body and 'it wasn't an unborn whale.'
    Like other cryptids, animals whose existence is suggested but not yet recognised by scientific consensus, the Cadborosaurus has existed only in grainy photographs and eyewitness accounts.




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    Sunday, 11 November 2012

    Sasquatch: The Encounter

    http://rebekahsisk.fineartstudioonline.com/works/986027/sasquatch-the-encounter

    Sasquatch: The Encounter

    The Art of Rebekah Sisk

    Sasquatch: The Encounter

    Sasquatch: The Encounter
    Pastel on Paper
    12" x 9"
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    Sasquatch: The Encounter by Rebekah Sisk Pastel ~ 12" x 9"
    This painting was featured on the CBS Sunday Morning News program which aired Nov. 11, 2012. You can view the video and see the painting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF5YzheVyQA.

    This painting was also discussed in the Bigfoot Field Reporter. You can read about the Executive Producer of the Lord of the Rings, Mark Ordesky, who purchased this painting: http://bigfootfieldreporter.com/wordpress/2012/10/24/exists/. He is currently filming a bigfoot movie titled "Exists" with Eduardo Sanchez, director of the Blair Witch.

    Limited Edition prints of this piece, "Sasquatch: The Encounter" are available by clicking the button below:

    (831)375-9663
     
    As on other occasions I endorse and promote portraits of Bigfoot which I think are authentic and close to what the originals probably looked like (Based on my prior experience with what the witnesses say). This portrait falls into that category. 
    --Best Wishes, Dale D.

    Saturday, 10 November 2012

    Bald-Headed Hairy Wildmen

    In one of my Facebook groups, One member asked about the term "Hairy Man" and I posted a series of historical images much the same as Pearl Prihoda collects. One of them-the first one I reproduced here-showed a creature hairy all over but with a completely bald head. I mentioned that you get that sometimes in reports, but I also thought the shape of the head might be significant. Here I made a comparison with a Neanderthal skull and two older reconstructions; the skull and one of the reconstructions have a peak up on top in back, and the drawing from the 1790s shows a projection at the back of the head (a "Bun") which some Neanderthals had.

    BTW, Pearl P sent me a very old story about another different Wild Man that was hairy all over and completely bald on top, originating from the 1100s, after this chart was made up.

    Friday, 9 November 2012

    Dr. Meldrum on Provo Canyon Video: 'very little to go on...hard to discern'

    Dr. Meldrum on Provo Canyon Video: 'very little to go on...hard to discern'

    From Phantoms and Monsters site Friday, November 09, 2012
    http://networkedblogs.com/ExkPt





    Jeffery Meldrum, an associate professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University, said there “is very little to go on,” to determine whether or not an actual sighting of Bigfoot took place.

    “All we really have contextually is the account of the events by the eyewitnesses. I can relate to the emotions of the situation but it would be nice if they held their ground and waited just a little bit longer to capture more of the creature,” Meldrum said. “When it moves, it is really difficult to interpret. The glimpse is slippery. It is hard to discern.” - ABC News

    Again...the original media account and telephone interview:
    A Utah man camping in Provo Canyon caught sight of – what he claims – was a black creature in the woods.

    The video’s description, named “Provo Canyon Bigfood Encounter?” on YouTube [LINK], says the man was camping near Squaw Peak and Little Rock Canyon Overlook when they saw deer up on the hill.

    On their way up, the spotted what appeared to be a bear. But when “the monster stood up and looked right at us,” they fled.

    “We had actually been standing there for awhile. We had thought it was a bear up to that point but when it stood up and looked at us it was just massive animal,” said the video’s uploader, who goes by the name Beard Card on YouTube. He did not want his real name to be made public.

    “We don’t know what it was. I mean none of us really believe in Bigfoot but we’ve talked about it over and over again since then. It happened on Monday and all of us are positive that thing wasn’t a bear.” - Fox 13 Now
    CARD: "But when it stood up and looked at us--and we assumed it was a bear up to that point--but, when it stood up and looked at us, it was this massive animal. We don't know what it was. I mean, none of us believe in Bigfoot, so. ...We've talked about it over and over again since Monday when it happened and all of us are positive that thing wasn't a bear."

    ROTH: "You're not a Bigfoot guy?

    CARD: "Nope...none of us have ever believed in that kind of thing."

    ROTH: "So what do you think it was?"

    CARD: "I don't know!...We don't know what it was...I don't know if Bigfoot exists or not but that was a huge animal."

    NOTE: There have been 9 Class A & B reports of Bigfoot between 1982 and 2005 in the area within and around Provo Canyon according to the BFRO. I'm still not convinced that this was a hominid or Bigfoot-type creature, but the length of the arm and movement of the subject are very curious. A few more seconds of video may have determined what this really was...Lon

    Rusty Wilson's Eighteen Pack of Bigfoot Campfire Stories
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    Phantoms & Monsters: Cryptid Encounters
     
     
     
    Now I'll just go on record and say what I have been saying ever since the footage just came out. It looks to me very much as if a heavily-coated human is squatting to usae the toilet at the onset. It is a black coat and when he is hunched down behind the trees is when he was mistaken for a bear. After a while he finishes, stands up and the shadow becomes dramatically broader. This is what makes me think he is wearing a coat: he throws the coat back so he can pull his pants up and fasten them again. After this is done, a human arm can clearly be made out to the right of the image area. The figure does not have very long arms nor any other identifying features except when he stands up, he looks really very broad in proportion. If anybody else has a better explanation I'd like to hear it.
     
    Best Wishes, Dale D.

    Wednesday, 7 November 2012

    Bigfoot Evidence: Photo of the day

    Most Bigfoot photos we receive in our email are really, really bad. How bad? The-Virgin-Mary-on-french toast bad. Out of the hundreds of photos people send us, there are some that stand out. Take a look at this brand new photo sent to us from Jamie T. from Clinton Township, PA. Although its super blurry, it doesn't look like a bear or an elk.
     

    Bigfoot Evidence: Photo of the day: Clinton Township Bigfoot?
     
    Courtesy of bigfootevidence.blogspot.com. There might be two figures walking together, a bigger one and a smaller one, and both would be of the "Auburn" colouration often noted.
     
    UPDATE: Matt Moneymaker also offers an opinion:

    Wednesday, November 7, 2012

    Here's What Matt Moneymaker Thinks About The Clinton Township Bigfoot Photo

    Read Here 

    Tuesday, 6 November 2012

    REPOSTING: Roman Relocations of Sirrush Dragons

    My Friend Jeff Albertson was just asking about a comparison made on the Living Dinosaurs site:
    To which some discussion followed:

    Dale Drinnon The Mesopotamian seal is well known, and it is a Mushush or a Dragon-of-Ishtar-gate type, but identical to the Egyptian "Serpopards" at about the same date. Speculation has always been that these are representations of Mokele-mbembes. That does not rule out the possibility that they DO represent them AND the M-Ms are actually big monitor lizards
    Dale Drinnon The representation certainly look like sauropod dinosaurs, but they also are derived at a very great distance from the source and there is no reason to assume they are very accurate

    Scott Mardis There are very similar images of the Beasts of Nodens from Lyndney Park, U.K.
    [Graphic unfortunately not available: reprinted in In Search of Lake Monsters and other sources]
     


    Dale Drinnon BTW, I have a couple of blogs up on this, my guess is that the Beast of Nodens is a recycling of the same emblem used in later days by some Roman Legions. Many Roman legions used Dragons as emblems, down to just big snakes, but from the looks of things at one time some units were pushing a somehat feline-looking, long-necked and long-legged sort of dragon as their emblem. It was an unusual variation, not known in the Roman world at the time otherwise. The older forerunners for the design come from Saharan rock art. [there is an older Frontiers of Anthropology blog which remarks on this as a cultural marker]

    Sunday, 28 August 2011


    More Gargoyle Dragons but Out of Africa by Way of Rome

    The Peluda, The Questing Beast, and The Dragons of Nodens
    ...And while we are on the subject of snakeheaded and necked dragons, the Questing Beast of Arthurian tales seems to have a strongly Plesiosaurian shape without counting the feet, and there is some uncertainty as to what kind of feet it is supposed to have:
    The Questing Beast seems to have been added on to Arthurian lore in the versions that were circulating in France at about 1300-1500, the end of the Middle Ages, but the type of dragon seems to be traditional in both France and England from long before then. It is a fourlegged and wingless dragon coloured like a leopard with a spotted tawny-red coat and a lighter belly: but all that goes to say is that it is very similar to the Sirrush.

    The story goes that it makes a noise like a few dozen hunting dogs baying wherever it goes, which is a feature piously interpreted by the church fathers; and yet since the whole point of the story is that the creature is continually hunted but is never caught, the sound of the hunting dogs would be due to the hunting dogs that are always supposed to be pursuing it.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Questing_Beast



    Questing Beast





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    The Questing Beast, or the Beast Glatisant (Barking Beast), is a monster from Arthurian legend. It is the subject of quests undertaken by famous knights such as King Pellinore, Sir Palamedes, and Sir Percival.

    The strange creature has the head and neck of a serpent, the body of a leopard, the haunches of a lion and the feet of a hart. Its name comes from the great noise it emits from its belly, a barking like "thirty couple hounds questing". 'Glatisant' is related to the French word glapissant, 'yelping' or 'barking', especially of small dogs or foxes.

    The questing beast is a variant of the mythological giraffe.
    [This is also said of the Sechet, Sirrush and Serpopard. It is obviously incorrect in any of those cases-DD]
    The first accounts of the beast are in the Perlesvaus and the Post-Vulgate Suite du Merlin. The Post-Vulgate's account, which is taken up in Thomas Malory's Le Morte d'Arthur, has the Questing Beast appear to King Arthur in Chapter 19 of Caxton's version, after he has had an affair with his sister Morgause and begotten Mordred. (They did not know that they were related when the incestuous act occurred.)

    Arthur sees the beast drinking from a pool just after he wakes from a disturbing dream that foretells Mordred's destruction of the realm (no noise of hounds from the belly is emitted while it is drinking); he is then approached by King Pellinor who confides that it is his family quest to hunt the beast. After his death, Sir Palomide followed the beast....

    The beast has been taken as a symbol of the incest, violence, and chaos that eventually destroys Arthur's kingdom [The many barking dogs are also said to represent individual sins-D]




    Gerbert de Montreuil provides a similar vision of the Questing Beast in his Continuation of Perceval, the Story of the Grail, though he says it is "wondrously large" and interprets the noise and subsequent gruesome death by its own offspring as a symbol of impious churchgoers who disturb the sanctity of Mass by talking. Later in the Post-Vulgate, the Prose Tristan and the sections of Malory based on those works, the Saracen knight Sir Palamedes hunts the Questing Beast. It is a futile venture, much like his love for Sir Tristan's paramour Iseult, offering him nothing but hardship. In the Post-Vulgate, his conversion to Christianity allows him relief from his endless worldly pursuits, and he finally slays the creature during the Grail Quest after he, Percival and Galahad have chased it into a lake.

    The Questing Beast appears in many later works as well, including stories written in French, Spanish, and Italian.
    However, in a few stories, the symbolic meaning of the Questing Beast is much more benign. For example, in T.H. White's The Once and Future King, the Questing Beast is actually a misunderstood creature. There is, in fact, no good reason for Pellinore to be hunting him, and the Pellinore's long search for the beast epitomizes all the meaningless knightly pursuits encouraged by a chivalry grounded in the "might makes right" purpose.

    http://www.uiweb.uidaho.edu/student_orgs/arthurian_legend/quests/monsters/abeasts.html




    The Questing Beast looks a good deal like the Egyptian monster Ameimat here.

    Amended Deviant Art Contest Submission for an Egyptian Dragon. This was the closest thing I could find to a Sechet design on the internet so I simplified the dragon to bring it in line with the original Sechet design, then added some colours to the background to make it show up better. No slight is meant on the original artist, but this Egyptian Dragon design is more authentic. The Sechet is illustrated in E.A. Budge, The Egyptian Book of the Dead, quite near the start. Like all derived creatures it is supposed to be coloured like a leopard-tawny-red with darker spots and a lighter belly. It was the colouring associated with red that made the Sirrush to be known as The Red Serpent., and the mythical multiheaded Dragon of Revelation in the Bible is also red.


    A very old Saharan water-monster, 10000 years old or more, marked near a water source. these were rather along the line of bunyips and depictions of them could commonly be confused with giraffes but not always so. The long legs represented rain or flowing streams and this one has rather an ostrich head and neck with a horse's tail at the rear. Note it does have four legs. At a very early age this representational water monster became confused with the giant water-lizard or Congo Dragon (depicted in parallel usually as a recognisably llizard-shape but shown as 12 to 24 feet long to scale with human figures)
    The Water Monsters here became Serpopards in earliest Egypt and Mesopotamia and identified with Sechets and Sirrushes: the original idea may have been that they were also the same as Mokele-mBembe because they were identified with control of the water supply. They are also close to some grafitti-dragons in Europe of the Megalithic age which are also four-legged and Sirrush-like: some of these show up on very old rock art in Spain. Some of the "Brontosaurs" shown on South African rock art are also basically of the Sirrush design-but NOT in Central Africa for some reason.

    Pallate of Narmer being the best-known representation of "Serpopards". The Saharan Water-monsters developed a specifically-paired stylisation probably around 6000-4000 BC. At first it was the tail that went all the way around in a circle, and because the body was rather oblong with feline-like feet, this stylisation came very close to the North American representations of Water-Panthers or Mishipizhws.







    The Paired-entwined-necks version is not represented exactly that way in the Sahara but it seems to borrow from the design of the cadyseus. The Saharan examples I have seen show the two bodies divided down the middle at the spine and the creatures mirror-imaged on either side: the original idea seems to have been that one of them is male and the other is female. So presumably they are "Necking" and not wrestling.

    That the same design simultaneously appeared also in Mesopotamia is also significant. There is also a stylized version from the early Balkan cultures and this has the four-legged bodies forming a box, the dragon heads on either side, and a dish or basin in between.




    Yet another Egyptian depiction of "Serpopards"




    Sechets have several similar names in Egypt and one surprising fact is that a very similar name turns up as a sea monster in the Northwest Coast area! One of the other names in Egypt is Sent (ends in hard-t so I suppose it should be "Sentt") which means "The Terror"-presumably in reference to the fact that it is a frightening creature. The Hieroglyphic for "Sent" at one time looked very much like a Plesiosaur but later it was "corrected" to be a cooked goose!





    On this seal of Tutmose III shown below the Sechet design is not standing up like a quadruped bt it is stretched out horizontally for swimming. Yet the (not nearly so log) snakelike neck, four limbs on a shorter body and this time a crocodile like tail, are all of similar proportions. The limbs are more flipperlike (the left fore one is showing on the opposite side at "a") and the whole creature is more recognisably Plesiosaurian (as indeed this example was already labelled) "c" is the creature's head turned back in a half-circle.





    Several Roman Legions adoted the Dragon as their emblem: most likely it was the windsock-dragon of Dacia (that could well be the personification of a destructive comet) But in the case of legions stationed in Egypt, it seems that some soldiers used the Egyptian dragon or Sechet, the one thay was most like the Sirrush of Ishtar gate. and because of their favoritism for this emblem some unusual associations came about. One result was that Sirrush-like dragons turned up afterwards in Tang China, just about in the Dark ages BUT appearing in China at the same time as Nestorian Christians and Goddess depictions which resembled the Virgin Mary.











    For those of us that read Peter Costello's book In Search of Lake Monsters the next depiction is easily recognised: the two neck-entwined dragons were found in the mosaic still preserved at a temple complex at Lydney Park in Gloucestershire. It seems Nodens was identified with Mars, the War God of the Romans, and the dragons were imported by military men (although carrying over a marine decorative theme) But it is clear the dragons are carrying on the Serpopard tradition, and some similar depictions of intertwined dragons appear so late as to be contemporary with the voyages of Christopher Columbus.









    One final thing is that the four legged "Red Dragon" or Sirrush seems to be the basic underlying reason for the dragon on the flag of Wales, with only the addition of wings modifying the original design very much. If Folklore is any indication, there were originally two dragons, one white and one red, and facing each other in contention, but the red dragon supporters won out and kept their own dragon on the flag, leaving the white one off. Possibly the white dragon was originally meant to be female.

    Best Wishes, Dale D.