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Saturday, 24 March 2012

Kelly-Hopkinsville Goblins

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly-Hopkinsville_encounter
http://www.10mfh.com/random-news/kelly%E2%80%93hopkinsville-encounter/

Kelly–Hopkinsville Encounter


Some investigators such as Joe Nickell say that the witnesses were seeing nothing more exotic than a pair of nesting great horned owls that had taken up residence in their attic. The great round eyes and large ears are cited as evidence for this identification. Against this we have the statements that the creatures could travel on two legs or four, having a monkeylike body build and limb proportions, and a monkeylike gait when traveling on all fours, and had obvious large claws on the hands but not so obviously on their feet (one gains the impression the feet were never observed very clearly). Furthermore I would emphasize that the owl's head is not very distinct from its body and does not present the appearance of being outsized (whereas a large mane or ruff around the face of the Freshwater Monkey certainly would) and (most tellingly from my point of view) the owl is most obviously marked in bands of lighter and darker colour and certainly neither one uniform overall colour nor yet anything which might be interpreted as "Silvery"
Furthermore, the colour being distinctively shiny at night ("You could even say it glows")as well as the general description is a very good match for the traditional description given for the Pukwudgies.

There are some very peculiar details, some of which are easily dealt with. The owl theorists say that the shots that were fired had probably tended to go wild and hit metallic objects, such as could be parts of the house. That I think is faior enough. There is also the fact that one person was shooting a shotgun while the other one was shooting a .22. This is a very small calibur and it can be demonstrated that in some cases, the small-caliber was being directed at the creatures but not doing any visable damage. when one creature was shot at through the window at very close range, we know it was the.22 that had opened fire first because investigators found the hole. The bullet could have had much of its damage potential wasted in going through the window and thus did not hurt the creature much upon arriving at its destination. The creatures odd "Floating" behaviour could be explained by their JUMPING ability, which seems to have beem well-developed. It sould also be noted that there are several points of resemblance between these creatures and some of the Ohio "Frogmen" cases, including the part about raising the arms above the head. The feet are also solid and flipperlike and when the creatures are walking, they do so with a "Wading" effect, suggesting an amphibious adaptation.

A recent case in Kentucky once again reported a monkeylike creature which seemed to glow at night, but in this case a car's headlights were turned on it. It was estimated to  be seven feet tall and to move off at fifty miles per hour- both reasons to suspect the witness misjudged the range in the very brief encounter and hence he thought the creature was both larger and faster than it actually was. If the numbers are halved, it was 3 1/2 feet tall and moving off at over 20 mph-that would all be much more believable and much more consistent with other reports (I had also heard an alternative version which did estimate the speed as more likely 25 mph, on a message board in one of the chatrooms) This happened at the end of last year:
http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2011/12/kentucky-bigfoot-sighting-reported-on.html

Friday, December 30, 2011 Kentucky Bigfoot Sighting Reported on MUFON
Posted by Guy Edwards

Case Number: 34374
Log Number: US-12292011-0010
Submitted Date: 2011-12-29 16:51 GMT
Event Date: 2011-12-28 18:15 GMT
City: Burlington
Region: Kentucky
Country: US
Longitude: -84.7241133
Latitude: 39.02756
Shape: Other
Duration: 00:00:02
Distance: 100 feet or less
I was driving down a residential street in the dark when suddenly, my headlights landed on a ~7 ft. tall man like creature. It almost looked like a very tall standing monkey, but it also resembled a man. It looked as if it had fur all over it's body that was a medium red color. What really looked odd to me was that it seemed to have a translucent aura around it. I had to focus very hard to see these details because it seemed like the creature was moving at a pace of nearly 50 mph. I was afraid, of course, but I didn't feel as if it were here to harm me or anyone else. It seemed scared more than anything else. I feel it was trying to hide or find a way home because it was running right toward a large wooded area. I lost sight of the object within 2-4 seconds of first seeing it because it was moving so fast. - MUFON CMS
In this case, the Monkeylike creature has several features that are strikingly like the Kelly-Hopkinsville entities: the head is large and the large ears at the sides are pointed-but not nearly so exaggerated! and the long arms, hands, and claws are very similar. The eyes are relatively huge and pointed out to the sides, but interestingly enough there is no eyeglow unless the witness simply failed to mention the fact. It is also possible the head was turned at the wrong angle and the eyeglow was not noticed.
Also on the Bigfoot Lunch Club site and pertaining to recent Kentucky mystery primates is a discussion on a recording of some mysterious creature's whoops and screeches. But almost more arresting than that is the outline of a Kentucky "Frogfoot" print with all the toes present. ot an exact reproduction of whatever the original must've been-but I am looking into the matter. This came up just as I was about to post this blog report and I had not expected to find such a thing.
I did happen to have an informant who went down to the Sutton farmhouse about five years ago to look the place over. He said the place was way back in the boondocks and the witnesses really were "A Bunch of Hicks" to use his exact words. He did not think they were sophisticated enough to have invented such a story at the time. He did give me some interesting other details such as concerning the water drainage of the area. I also found out that the creatures were not so invulnerable as stated-most of the time they were only struck by the small-caliber fire while the shotgun shots tended to go wild (these things were actually to be expected) Also it seems the explanation of the UFO as a meteor in the sky seems to be a sound one, and there was no good connection of the creatures to any genuine UFO reports. It does seem that the creatures also left patces of algae or bacterial slime on places they had rubbed up against, and it is possible that they were actually covered in bioluminescent organic detritus, like foxfire. And actually the creatures appeared to be naked and basically of an animal nature (although it seems they were acting "Playfully" by some accounts) and so it seems to me that it is entirely possible that the Suttons had run afoul of a family group of the Freshwater Monkeys (Hydromacaca), perhaps flooded out of one home base and headed overland to a better habitat.  It should be noted that the illustrations that show any nose at all specify that the creature is a Cattarhine, Old World Monkey because of the pinched-looking nose and the nostrils lying close together.

A miniature Monster-model "Frogman" creature probably actually representing the Freshwater Monkey category and as a variation on the New England Pukwudgies. (Dover Demon is probably geographically in the same part of the country) The creature is actually similar to the Kelly-Hopkinsville creatures in several respects, including the "Walleyed" effect of its goggling eyes. This also has the pinched-together nostrils of a Cattarhine, although that might not be so obvious: and it still has some wet straggly locks from its "Mane" showing around its face. The answer seems to be that such creatures present a very different appearance whether their hair is wet and clinging to the skin or dry and "Fluffed-Out" and the top of the head might well even actuially have a sagittal crest in the males (But look like a "Depression" in the forehead from the way the hair grows) At least one "Lake Monster-Frogman" has been regularly reported in the New England area also. In the Sutton Family report, one individual reported "Antennae", which were probably locks such as this
 In the Kelly-Hopkinsville report, the "Silvery" appearance is more likely due to reflected moonlight than the actual colour of the creatures: what people are describing is actually the colour of the moon  as reflected off of shiny body hair, whight, in all probability.
Amphibious FW Monkey-Composite Reconstruction
A modified version of a "Frogman" from a UFO Aliens site (Loveland Frog Category), adding the hair showing about half-dry instead of completely slicked-down. The hair pattern is derived from information on Japanese Kappas and it seems slicked-down in the Kelly-Hopkinsville case. "Slicked Down" does not only mean still wet because it seems these creatures also acquire a coating of green algae or duckweed, wet mud or swamp bottom ooze, which continues to present the "Slicked-Down" effect for a long time out of water. The ears show when the mane or ruff of hair around the head is  or otherwise not dried-out and fluffy. nd depictions can also show the large ears. This would be a typical creature at the common size, 3-4 feet tall and about the size of the Kelly-Hopkinsville entities, in which case the footprint would be about the size of an average human footprint, 9 or 10 inches long.
The body hair is generally short and close overall but when the longer hair is half-dried it can look "Spiky"
The legs look a good deal shorter when the foot is flat on the ground
 Mexican "Dwendis" compared to Kelly-Hopkinsville Goblins from a Spanish-Language site. "Dwendi" is also a composite category used to name more than one thing, but if the range of FW monkeys slops over into parts of Mexico, I would not be too surprised.

Kittelsen_TheWaterSprite_Scandinavia


British-version Water-Brownie/Bogie

Tuesday, 28 February 2012

Freshwater Monkeys and the Other Unidentified Primates

I realised after the fact that I had done my global-view range maps and comparitive-sized reconstructions for Wildme and Heuvelmans' "Petit Yeti" and "Grand Yeti" but not also for Tyler Stone's freshwater monkeys, of which the Kappas are the best-defined representatives. At left is a Kappa illustration from Wikipedia, and it has an "Angry monkey" face plus webbed hands and feet which are four webbed toes and a thumb apiece, which we are going to say is the true value
And at left here is my rough world range map, an adaptation of the less specific range map I posted in an earlier blog on the European water Sprites. The usual terms for such creatures worldwide is "Water-Children" or "Little People that live in the Water" and I have a strong feeling that they are also the basis for some of the Native tradidions called "Devil Mokeys" (which are an extremely heterogenous collection otherwise)


And below is my scale comparison, this time also incorporating the eyes for each type. It turns out the eyes for Wildmen and Sasquatch are about the same absolute size in either case, but proportionately very much smaller in the faces of the Giants. The "Water-Goblins" were something I had added on a similar chart I drew while at SITU HQs in the mid-1970s. I thought from the eyes they might be a type of lemur, and they were indicated by a series of the "Little Hairy Men of the Delta" reports off of John Keel's listings for sightings in the Eastern USA. Shortly thereafter, I dropped the category as sounding too "Far Out" But now I can see what is going on with those reports better, since Tyler Stone articulated the theory to me over again in a clearer way. I had also included the Kelly-Hopkinsville "Goblins" on the theory the big head could have been the effect of a large mane of hair on the head, and asuming there was no real connection to any UFO report then. The hands and feet of the Kappa are meant to represent webbed fingers and toes and yes, the category is now intended to include Loveland "Frogs" (Now reconfigured as "Loveland Kappas")
Although all of these Amphibious "Little Men" reports are treated as individual and mutually exclusive, they all could be describing the same thing with poor lighting, only partial observations being made and faulty memories afterwards. The policeman in the second Loveland Frog report did mention that the creature could have had wet hair slicked down giving the appearance of a reflective leathery skin and in fact the creatures seem to have a longer "Cape" of hairs on the back that often gives a matted appearance (like a turtle's shell) or which can be partially dry and have the locks of hair form "Spikes." A monkeylike face is indicated in the last two photos and big monkeylike ears standing out in the Hopkinsville case. The large goggle eyes set off to the sides of the head are common to all cases, and the only possible "UFO" seen in any of these cases was elsewhere identified as a meteor (in the Hopkinsville case). The way the hands and feet grip is similar in all cases, and the Evansville case specifies that the fingers are webbed. We can forgive the other observers for missing out on that point.                             Best Wishes, Dale D.

PS, the mane could also be less extensive in females, accounting for some sightings seeming to have less less covering over the ears, for example. The mane could also lie flatter when wet and slicked-down. Wetter hides ARE remarked on as being very reflective in some cases and the creatures can look greenish when covered in algae or duckweed. They ARE "Goebelins" in Europe as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goblin
'Goblins were described as 2–3 feet tall, thin, and brown. Most were bald and "if there were females among the group they could not be distinguished from the males".' From which it seems that the sex organs are unclear to humans and the females do not have prominent breasts: "Most were bald" means they have an apparent bald spot on the tops of their heads, the same as the Kappas do. They seem to have prominent ischial callosities and also cheek pouches to store food in. And incidentally they would seem to maintain a pecking order by males mounting subordinate males, same as in ordinary macaques: there are many stories of goblins attempting buggery of human males.

For the record also, here is my former map for "Improbable Giant Frogs" of the Loveland variety. Thetis Lake is indicated on the map and should be removed--but oddly enough such creatures are also reported at Lake Okanagon, the Ogopogo lake, and represented on Petroglyphs on the shores of the lake there.