Finding Lost Letters From the Mailbag

In cleaning out my google email account, I discovered to my horror that several of my emails from several months back had all gone astray and were missed by me for those several months until I discovered their folder. Today I am trying to air out some of the more interesting messages that I had found there. And once again, I apologise if this seems really too tardy to make any sort of a reply at all!


(Ganges?) Makara Depicted as a Standard Oriental Dragon, Presumably as a Buru in this case.

 Dale,
Saw your blog entry on Makara 
http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/03/sea-elephants.html#comments
 and tried to post a comment, not sure if it worked.
I encountered statues of "makara" in Kerala (south India) and they're on the coat of arms of the modern Indian state of Karnataka. People I spoke to suggested they're heraldic devices or architectural flourishes going back no further than the 18th century. And they are LAND ANIMALS combining elephants with bits of lions, horses and possibly eagles' claws, with tufts, manes or crests. Guides described them to me as "unicorns" or "elephant dragons."
See my blog entry on "makara" (photos towards the end of the post).
http://mattsalusbury.blogspot.com/2011/04/kallana-reconnaissance-kerala-india.html
Attached are two photos, copyright Matt Salusbury, which I license "Frontiers of Zoology" blog to reproduce without cost on the blog only.


The big stone carving is from the porch of Trivandrum's ancient main temple, probably added early 18th century, about the same date as the smaller painted wooden white and yellow makara, from the Maharaja of Travencore's palace opposite. (Trivandrum is Kerala's state capital.)


Sincerely, Matt Salusbury

-The larger one of Matt's photos with the big stone carving failed to come through on this blog-I believe it was a scan at too large of a size. I include the white and yellow one blow. The problem is that, once again, THE NAME OF A CRYPTID IS NOT THE OFFICIAL NAME OF ANYTHING. IT HAS NO OFFICIAL STATUS NOR STANDARD DEFINITION. IT IS NOT THE EQUIVALENT TO A SCIENTIFIC NAME FOR A KNOWN SPECIES. IT DOES NOT IN FACT USUALLY DESCRIBE ONLY ONE THING. IT IS COMMONLY USED WITH EQUAL STRENGTH WITH ANY NUMBER OF UNRELATED CREATURES SIMPLY BECAUSE A CRYPTID HAS NO OFFICIAL STANDING WITH THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
Now in this case, Matt is speaking of Heraldric-composites called "Makaras" and he says they are not very old. Indeed they are not very old. HOWEVER, that is not the oldest meaning of "Makaras" nor yet the oldeast kind of "Makaras" that there are. Makaras in different forms have been artistic decoration for thousands of years and the creature is much older as a mount for various Gods and Goddesses, particularly the Goddess of the Ganges.

Different Makaras (A Water Horse is depicted at Right)

Now for my usage I was interested solely in the kind of Makara that is an Elephant-headed Water-Monster. I never said the term was not used to name anything else, it is simply that the other creatures being called Makaras have no relevance to the discussion of a specific sort of Water-Monster. As a matter of fact some of these "Land-Makaras" are very interesting because they could be representations of The Big Unicorn Elasmotherium, the one Pliny described as having "Elephant-feet". But that is a separate discussion on Unicorns, don't you see?
Best Wishes, Dale D.

 

While we are on the topic of Makaras and Water-Elephants, I did come across the photo of Karl Shuker holding a cast of a "3-Toes" track from Africa, said to be from a "Dinosaur" type there and probably the same as the Gambian Water-Elephant. It is probably the trach made by an elephant seal's flipper when the toes are widely spread out. And before you go saying the idea is ridiculous, please look back at some of my old blog postings on the matter:
http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/02/dale-drinnon-old-three-toes-matter-as.html
http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/02/dale-drinnon-3-toes-footnotes.html
http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2009/06/dale-drinnon-amended-cryptozoological.html
http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/07/michael-newton-muddying-clearwater.html
http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/04/lindsay-selby-florida-lake-monsters-in.html

This illustration of Arkansas "Critters" is interesting for several reasons. One thing is that it shows the White River Monster and Gowrow together (they are sometimes thought of as being synonymous) but the White River monster is a kind of turtle here. Roy Mackal identified it as an Elephant seal and used the 3-toed-track argument as part of his case. And in fact some Elephant seasl-SeaMonsters are also described as having the heads of gigantic turtles. These creatures are also locally called "Gollywampus" evidently a variant for "Grampus", a fat porpoise or seal. And the last thing I would like to mention is that the "Giasticutus" looks very much like the "Thunderchick" illustrated from elsewhere...which would thend to indicate that the Ozarks area, as well as the Black Forest PA, is another nesting ground for Thunderbirds.

http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/01/dale-drinnon-ozark-howlers-or-black.html

Hello Dale, My name is Brea Tisdale, I am writing you from the Travel Channel Special "Legends of the Ozarks." I saw a blog you posted on "The Ozark Howler" and I was wanting to talk to you a bit more about this. We are looking for people that have had sightings or experiences with the Ozark Howler and was wondering if you had any contacts for people that have had such an experience or if you knew of a good place for me to ask around. Thank you in advance for your time and I look forward to speaking with you soon. Best, Brea Tisdale Associate Producer "Legends of the Ozarks"- Travel Channel O

Unfortunately I got that message also several months late and I replied as soon as I saw the message, I do not know if Brea is still going to want my information although I have communicated with witnesses. The artwork is my creation, BTW, as is much of the stuff you see on my blogs. It is also free for public use also as the other such items I put up in my blogs.

Hi Dale,
I saw some of you blog on the Dobar-chu and it is a creature that interests me...I keep finding that newspaper snippet about the man named Patel from Pittsburgh who was attacked by one at Lake Erie...do you know where I can find the whole article? did anyone ever go back and talk to him (Patel)? his case and the wound on his arm seemed pretty solid to me!
anyhow when I was in Sligo sometime back (maybe six years back) I talked with a wood carver who just brought up the tale of the Dobar-chu to me as a sort of totem -as when I walked in -he had just heard of a sighting there in Leitrim or roundabouts (Ireland)...he was quite sincere about it and apparently this thing is taken seriously as the men standing about the shop maintained a serious countenance...the general feeling about this creature was that it was both real and dangerous...anyhow more grist for your mill!


Allen Pittman

--Yes, I frequently see the first-page-only for that Lake Erie encounter and in fact that is the page which is reproduced below. I have never heard any more about the matter than that, but the creature is supposed to inhabit scattered locations all over New England and the Great Lakes region. People have (hopefully?) said it must be extinct in both Ireland and the USA and yet the reports continue. I quote some additional information from other websites below:

http://amayodruid.blogspot.com/2010/09/dobhar-chu-irish-crocodile.html


WaterHound or Master Otter, The Irish Version




Mishipizhiw or Water Panther, The American Version

 http://naturalplane.blogspot.com/2011/04/doyarchu-irish-crocodile.html

Wednesday, April 20, 2011

Doyarchu, The Irish Crocodile

The Doyarchu is described as an animal that is about the size of a crocodile or a big dog, but resembles a cross between a dog and an otter. It either has sleek black fur that fits very snugly to the body, or it has smooth, slimy black skin with no fur at all. The hindquarters are bigger than the forequarters and resemble a dog, especially a powerfully-built greyhound. The paws are big in proportion to the rest of the body, the same as most aquatic mammals. The head is sleek, the neck is long, and the tail is long and slender. A few individuals are described as having one or more patches of white, especially a large patch in the middle of the chest. It goes by various monikers, ex. dobhar-chu, anchu, water dog and Irish crocodile.

These creatures have been reported as living in Irish lakes from ancient times. They are highly aggressive towards people and dogs. They attack by grasping prey and dragging it into the water, and they are often a match for the fiercest dogs, especially when they get their opponents into the water. They are often found in pairs and hunt in tandem. One animal usually stays hidden while the other attacks, but it will appear if the first animal has trouble. If one of these is killed, the other becomes extremely angry and will risk its own life to get revenge, suggesting that these animals may have monogamous pair-bonds of exceptional strength. One report tells of a doyarchu that pursued the men who had killed its mate for twenty miles, even though it was at a disadvantage on land.

Some cryptozoologists acknowledge it could be a new species of giant otter since descriptions of the creature are consistent. Others favor the view that it is a variety of immature 'Loch Ness Monster' evenly though Loch Ness is in Scotland. Another possibility is that is represents a link between seals and their landbound ancestors. Seals are most closely related to the bear family and the dog family and a primitive ancestor of modern seals may have resembled the doyarchu.

There has been a scarcity of modern sightings which seems to indicate that the doyarchu, if it ever existed, may be extinct today. The location in which the largest number of modern sightings has taken place is Achill Island, located just off the western coast of Ireland in County Mayo. The lake called Sraheens Lough is supposed to have a small population of doyarchu, but these creatures seem migratory, not occupying the lake all year. - www.newanimal.org

An early description of the Dobhar-chú appears in A Description of West Connaught (1684), by Roderick O'Flaherty. This story, originating from the area of Lough Mask:

There is one rarity more, which we may term the Irish crocodile, whereof one, as yet living, about ten years ago had sad experience. The man was passing the shore just by the waterside, and spyed far off the head of a beast swimming, which he took to be an otter, and took no more notice of it; but the beast it seems lifted up his head, to discern whereabouts the man was; then diving swam under the water till he struck ground: whereupon he run out of the water suddenly and took the man by the elbow whereby the man stooped down, and the beast fastened his teeth in his pate, and dragged him into the water; where the man took hold of a stone by chance in his way, and calling to mind he had a knife in his jacket, took it out and gave a thrust of it to the beast, which thereupon got away from him into the lake. The water about him was all bloody, whether from the beast's blood, or his own, or from both he knows not. It was the pitch of an ordinary greyhound, of a black slimey skin, without hair as he imagines. Old men acquainted with the lake do tell there is such a beast in it, and that a stout fellow with a wolf dog along with him met the like there once; which after a long struggling went away in spite of the man and his dog, and was a long time after found rotten in a rocky cave of the lake when the waters decreased. The like they say is seen in other lakes in Ireland, they call it doyarchu, i.e. water-dog, or anchu which is the same.

In 2003 Irish Artist Sean Corcoran and his wife claim to have witnessed a Dobhar-Chú on Omey Island in Connemara, County Galway. In his description the large dark creature made a haunting screech, could swim fast and had orange flipper like feet. “What a shock!” he says, recalling the next few moments. “A vicious snarl right below us, like a loud hiss, followed immediately by a huge splash. The creature, if that is what it was, swam the width of the lake from west to east in “what seemed like a matter of seconds”, leaving a “fairly big wake”, Corcoran remembers when it reached shore, it clambered up onto a boulder, he swears, and gave “the most haunting screech”. My wife's account of the incident is give or takes the same as mine. Its body was dark, and I'd say it was about the size of a large Labrador, and about five foot tall when standing. It turned and disappeared into the darkness of the area I call the Heart.

We scrambled back to our tent, completely stunned. This was something very strange, it wasn't a swan or an otter or a badger. The next day we went across to Sweeney’s bar. Malachy served us and there were a few lads at the counter. I casually explained about the creature and there was nervous chuckling." - www.irishtimes.com

The Kinlough Stone is claimed to be the headstone of a grave of a woman killed by the Dobhar-chú in the 17th century and shows an old drawing of the creature. Her name was supposedly Gráinne. Her husband supposedly heard her scream as she was washing clothes down at the Glenade lough and came to her aid. When he got there she was already dead, with the Dobhar-chú upon her bloody and mutilated body. The man killed the Dobhar-chú, stabbing it in the heart. As it died, it made a whistling noise, and its mate arose from the lough. Its mate chased the man but, after a long and bloody battle, he killed it as well. The Glenade Stone, found in Conwall cemetery in Glenade, Co. Leitrim also depicts the Dobhar-chú and is related to the same incident.

The Legend of the Dobharchú (Water hound) was written by Joe McGowan and stems from the bestial murder of Grainne Ni Conalai at Glenade Lake, Co. Leitrim on September 24th 1722:

The details were well known one time and the ballad sung at fairs on the streets of nearby Kinlough. Some say she went to the lake to wash clothes; the ballad tells she went to bathe. It is no matter. When she failed to return, her husband Traolach Mac Lochlainn went to look for her. He was aghast when he found her body lying by the lake with the 'beast lying asleep on her mangled breast'! The words of the following poem, written around the time of the incident, form part of the legend surrounding an event which excites discussion and controversy to the present day. The ballad, a lengthy one, was skilfully composed by a hedge schoolmaster of the time. An abbreviated version below brings the story vividly to life. Beginning with a description of the locality it goes on to record the dreadful occurrence:

…And whilst this gorgeous way of life in beauty did abound, From out the vastness of the lake stole forth the water hound, And seized for victim her who shared McGloughlan's bed and board; His loving wife, his more than life, whom almost he adored.

She, having gone to bathe, it seems, within the water clear, And not having returned when she might, her husband, fraught with fear, Hasting to where he her might find, when oh, to his surprise, Her mangled form, still bleeding warm, lay stretched before his eyes.

Upon her bosom, snow white once, but now besmeared with gore, The Dobharchú reposing was, his surfeiting being o'er. Her bowels and entrails all around tinged with a reddish hue: 'Oh, God', he cried, 'tis hard to bear but what am I to do?'

He prayed for strength, the fiend lay still, he tottered like a child, The blood of life within his veins surged rapidly and wild. One long lost glance at her he loved, then fast his footstps turned To home, while all his pent up rage and passion fiercely burned.

He reached his house, he grasped his gun, which clenched with nerves of steel, He backwards sped, upraising his arm and then one piercing, dying, squeal Was heard upon the balmy air. But hark! What's that that came One moment next from out of its depth as if revenge to claim!

The comrade of the dying fiend with whistles long and loud Came nigh and nigher to the spot. McGloughlin, growing cowed Rushed to his home. His neighbours called, their counsel asked, And flight was what they bade him do at once, and not to wait till night.

He and his brother, a sturdy pair, as brothers true when tried, Their horses took, their homes forsook and westward fast they did ride. One dagger sharp and long each man had for protection too Fast pursued by that fierce brute, the Whistling Dobharchú.

The rocks and dells rang with its yells, the eagles screamed in dread. The ploughman left his horses alone, the fishes too, 'tis said, Away from the mountain streams though far, went rushing to the sea; And nature's laws did almost pause, for death or victory.

For twenty miles the gallant steeds the riders proudly bore With mighty strain o'er hill and dale that ne'er was seen before. The fiend, fast closing on their tracks, his dreaded cry more shrill; 'Twas brothers try, we'll do or die on Cashelgarron Hill.

Dismounting from their panting steeds they placed them one by one Across the path in lengthways formed within the ancient dún, And standing by the outermost horse awaiting for their foe Their daggers raised, their nerves they braced to strike that fatal blow.

Not long to wait, for nose on trail the scenting hound arrived And through the horses with a plunge to force himself he tried, And just as through the outermost horse he plunged his head and foremost part, Mc Gloughlans dagger to the hilt lay buried in his heart.

"Thank God, thank God", the brothers cried in wildness and delight, Our humble home by Glenade lake shall shelter us tonight. Be any doubt to what I write, go visit old Conwell, There see the grave where sleeps the brave whose epitaph can tell.'

The story still survives in local tradition. A local man of Glenade, Patrick Doherty, now deceased, told me some years ago that the chase, which started at Frank Mc Sharry's of Glenade, faltered at Cashelgarron stone fort in Co. Sligo when Mac Lochlainn was forced to stop with the blacksmith there to replace a lost horseshoe. His version differs very little from the ballad. Acording to Patrick, when the enraged monster caught up with them the horses were hurriedly drawn across the entrance to form a barrier. Giving the terrified man a sword the blacksmith advised him, 'When the creature charges he'll put his head right out through the horse. As soon as he does this you be quick and cut his head off.'

The story is given credence today by the carved image engraved on Grace Connolly's tombstone in Conwell cemetery, Co. Leitrim. Cashelgarron stone fort, near where the chase ended and the Dobharchú met its gory end, still stands today nestled on a height under the sheltering prow of bare Benbulben's head. Both monster and horse lie buried nearby. - “Echoes of a Savage Land” by Joe McGowan

Because of its aquatic life style we usually associate the otter with a variety of watery places but not readily with bog. Otters are found in streams, rivers, marshes, lakes, estuaries, lagoons and on the coast. There are no sea otters in Ireland, nor is there such a thing as a bog otter. There is the river otter in Ireland (Lutra lutra), which exploits a range wetlands.

Otter, Lutra lutra (Ireland)

A clipping that references an encounter at Lake Erie, PA

Source:
www.newanimal.org
Clark, Jerome and Coleman, Loren - "Cryptozoology A-Z" - 1999
www.irishtimes.com
McGowan, Joe - “Echoes of a Savage Land”
www.rootsweb.ancestry.com
Shuker, Karl - "The Beasts That Hide From Man: Seeking the World's Last Undiscovered Animals" - 2003
www.mythicalcreaturesguide.com
www.ipcc.ie



Master-Otter reconstruction from Morelock on Deviant Art.



Gambian Sea Elephant and other Sea Elephants, Art by Pristichampsus

Gambian Water-Elephant, artwork by Pristichampsus on Deviant Art. I thought his conception for the creature was a good place to make another comparison to an elephant seal.













Elephant Seal, Clip-art










Dungeness Spit "Merhorse" sighting as represnted by "Pristichampsus", a fairly "Normal" report for the type. This is yet another "Sea Giraffe" like the Corinthian SS and the mane should be of the "Upstanding" type.






Colossal Claude, a Sea-serpent claimed to have been seen several times around the mouth of the Columbia River.
Although the earliest descriptions and basic concept of "Claude" are much the same as for "Cadborosaurus" further north. there are quite a few reports which sound more like seals, especially elephant seals with their "Bent" or "Bulbous" noses also described as short trunks which can manipulate fish to fit in the mouth better.







Southern Californian Elephant seals, Occasionally mistaken for and described as "Claude" and "Caddy" when they wander further North.



In The Sections Below, Reports which COULD Be Elephant seals are indicated in a darker blue.





Bandon's Mini-Monster by Pristichampsus

Shadowlands Sea-serpent page:
http://theshadowlands.net/serpent.htm

Peter Ciams, "Colossal Claude and The Sea Monsters," The Oregonian. September 24, 1967.


[Jeff H. Johnson’s sculptured model of Cadborosaurus.
"Collosal Claude" is often taken to be just another local variant for "Cadborosaurus"]

Until about 20 years ago Oregon also seemed to be wonderful country for serpent seekers. The following story by Peter Caims appeared in the September 24, 1967 edition of the Oregonian:

Colossal Claude hasn't been seen for some time, but Marvin the Monster is reportedly alive and well. He's even appeared on television.

Claude was first seen cavorting near the mouth of the Columbia River in 1934. Over the years he was often sighted by Columbia River lightship crewmen and by passing fishermen. But the once-familiar sea serpent hasn't shown up since the mid-1950s-
Marvin is a comparative newcomer.

He was first discovered swimming off the Oregon Coast by Shell Oil Company divers in 1963. His presence was recorded by video tape cameras, later screened for study by the nation's leading marine biologists.

In addition to Claude and Marvin, the watery denizens have been sighted off Newport, Bandon, Nelscott, Waldport, Empire, Delake and also in Crescent and Crater Lakes.

They come in several varieties and sizes. Some are shiny and some have scales. Some reportedly have coarse fur. There is even a variety of mini-monster, for the compact minded.

One thing they usually have in common is the shape of their heads. Observers say they are most often found to be like those of the camel, or horse.

L.A. Larson, mate of the Columbia River lightship, was probably the first to see Claude. That was back in 1934. Other members of the crew confirmed the sighting as did the captain and members of the crew of the lightship tender Rose.

"It was about 40 feet long," and Larson. "It had a neck some eight feet long a big round body, a mean looking tail and an evil, snaky look to its head."

A news story of the day reported: "Members of the crew (of the lightship) after studying the monster for some time with field glasses, wanted to lower a boat and go after it, but the officers discouraged the plan for fear it would swamp the boat."
Claude next popped into the news in 1937, when skipper Charles E. Graham of the troller Viv raced back to Astoria with the story of sighting a "long, hairy [Maned?], tan colored creature, with the head of an overgrown horse, about 40 feet long, and with a 4-foot waist measure." [Diameter or Circumference?-DD]

Veteran fishermen gazed out over the Columbia bar and said: "It's Claude".

Claude was repeatedly sighted through the years that followed. Once by Captain Chris Anderson of the schooner Arpo. He said he got a face to face look at Claude.

"His head was like a camel's," he said. "His fur was coarse and gray. He had glassy eyes and a bent snout that he used to push a 20-pound halibut off our lines and into his mouth."

Other Oregon monsters that have competed for the headlines over the years include:

*Bandon's mini-monster, a 12 1/2 foot animal with a bulbous nose and a cow-like body covered with brownish hair. (See last of the illustrations above-DD)

--a 30-foot serpent with "a slender neck, a snake-like head, and a fan-shaped tail" seen by more than 30 people at Nelscott. The "thing" splashed around the Nelscott reefs on several occasions. One group of observers was considered extremely reliable--its members were on a WCTU outing from the Willamette Valley.

Proximity of Whiskey Run reef apparently had nothing to do with the sightings of a sea monster off Empire a few years ago. Ben Tanner, skipper of the troller Gold Coast, said the creature approached his fishing boat, "smacked its mouth, rolled its long lashed eyes at the crew, then pointed its tail in the air and dived straight down."

Oregon Indians, of course, believe there is a monster in just about every fair-sized pool of water in the state. Their legends are full of such stories.

There is a paleface corroboration, however, for monster sightings in both Crater and Crescent lakes. The latter, in particular, is said to have an unusual inhabitant that has been sighted several times.

One day Henry Schwering and Bert Vincent were fishing on the lake. Henry later reported: "I suddenly noticed that the fish had stopped biting. Then I noticed fish scooting away and the water started boiling. Then I saw a huge, round head break water not far from the boat. " The next day Bert also saw the "thing" himself, as did others on the lake shore.

Reports that a 22-foot hairy-chested monster had been washed up on the beach at Delake brought people hurrying to the spot on March 4, 1950. What brought them running was Old Hairy (as locals quickly dubbed him.)[Globster case, probably a decayed shark. Text omitted here]

And so it is with Marvin, Oregon's youngest monster.

Marine biologists have examined the Shell Oil Co. video tapes, which show Marvin in detail. The footage was shot during the company's search for off-shore oil.

Marvin shows up as being about 15-feet long. He has barnacled ridges along his body, and he propels himself in corkscrew fashion in waters about 180 feet in depth.

The University of California believes Marvin is a Ctenaphor jellyfish); Scripps Institute of Oceanography thinks he's a salpida: the University of Washington plumps for a siphonophore (another jelly fish,) the University of Texas believes simply that he is a creature left over from prehistoric times.

But the fishermen hunched over their beer glasses in Astoria taverns know otherwise. Misty-blue eyes strained seaward, with not a little affection, they say: "It's probably Claude."

[Marge Davenport, "Caddy, northwest sea serpent and other fishy stories, " Afloat and Awash in the Old Northwest. Tigard, Oregon: Paddlewheel Press, 1988, p. 201-208.]

Marvin is almost certainly a salp chain, which is the identity that Roy Mackal uses to explain the "Yellow-belly" sightings. It turns out that the explanation will not work in those cases, and not only for the glaring inconsistancy that salp chains do not show the characteristic black-and-yellow banded pattern, a fact which Mackal admits himself when submitting the possible identification.

Other sources add another case:
"While reports of Colossal Claude, or even Marvin the Monster, have dwindled in recent decades, there are some that believe the creature is still out there. In the book, Haunted Astoria, author Jefferson Davis recounts one tale of a local fisherman who had taken his boat up the Columbia River east of Astoria in 1989. The men were dragging a net that several hundred feet long and around 30-feet deep, which they let sit for a while. When they decided to haul in their catch for the day, they encountered a snag that halted the ship's motion and started to pull the bow of the boat down into the water. Captain Donald Riswick throttled the boat forward and freed the ship from whatever had snagged it, but was shocked to discover a large hole in the net that measured several feet across when they reeled the net in. While it was never clear what the net had grabbed, the story only added to the tales of a giant sea serpent seen swimming in the Columbia River."





Salp Chain.Note the "Knobby" body plan also ascribed to "Marvin the Monster"








The book In Search of Lake Monsters under the heading of "Washington" quotes from Chris Bader in the book Strange Northwest to say that "Perhaps the most bizzare lake monster of Washington state is one for which there is no specified lake and no apparent tadition" [in the 1870s] a Washington trapper discovered the carcass of a miniature Lake Monster with a body like a barrel, short stubby legs with big webbed feet, no tail and a small "snakelike" head with a mouth full of sharp teeth. The trapper packed up the carcass and took it to a small town at the confluence of the Snake and Columbia rivers, where he showed the body to the local preacher. For some reason the Preacher thought the creature's body was an affront to God and he ordered the body to be burnt to ashes. The description is similar to "Bandon's mini-Monster" last illustrated by the Pristichampsus drawing here. It could well be a smallish elephant seal wandered inland, and there really is no reason why an elephant seal could not make its way into Crater Lake and be reported as the "Monster" there. Elephant seal mummies are found to have crawled fifty miles overland and sometimes up the sides of mountains in Antarctica. Here is Tabatica's posting on the Crater Lake Monster:

http://cryptozoo-oscity.blogspot.com/2009/07/is-there-crater-lake-monster.htm


And here is a photo of a monument to the Lake Tianchi monster in China, similarly living in a crater lake and looking uncommonly like a phocid (Earless seal) The situation would then be parallel to a type of seal getting itself in Crater Lake. However, there are very few legitimate reports there, and all of them could be mistakes.


Changbai Mountain In Jilin Province
ANTU COUNTY, CHINA - FEBRUARY 18: (CHINA OUT) An artifical 'Monster of Tianchi Lake' is seen on the iced Tianchi Lake in Changbai Mountain February 18, 2006 in Antu County of Yanbian Chaoxian Autonomous Prefecture, Jilin Province, China. Changbai Mountain, which means 'perpetually white mountain', is located in the southeast of Jilin Province near the North Korean border. The most famous scenic areas in Changbai Mountain are Baitoushan (White Head Mountain) and Tianchi (Lake of Heaven), a 2 million year old volcanic crater lake at the mountain summit.

http://www.life.com/image/56884382

The monsters of Cresent Lake, Upper Klamath Lake and Wallowa Lake ("Big Walley" are all described as bulky, round-headed animals that could be elephant seals. Many sightings in the area are probably sturgeons but in the 1880s, "Big Wally" was being compared to a hippopotamus, although probably the size was much exaggerated, reports said the creature was up to a hundred feet long. Possibly that included several individuals together.

UPDATE on The Sea Elephants

While I was researching into the subject of possible Water Elephant reports in Gambia, I did think at one time that some reader had confused Gambia with Gabon where there are indeed reports of creatures that are called "Water-Elephants." However the sources are quite consistent in maintaining there are the same "Water-Elephants" in both places. The solution came about from something quite unexpected: the local version of the "Congo Dragon" in Gambia does indded include reports of the same type as the more usual "Congo Dragons" in and around the Congo area, and that does include "Water-Elephants". The Gambian legendary creature is called the Ninki-Nanka, sometimes translated as "Dragon-Devil" but also both halves could be variations on the same name for "Snake." The Ninki-Nanka was one object of a CFZ expedition into The Gambia in 2006, as is duely noted in the Wikipedia article on it.


Here is a description which is repeated on several internet sites (with permission granted to copy)
http://www.unknown-creatures.com/ninki-nanka.html

In Africa, river dragons or river monsters are not that uncommon. Sightings of these creatures are quite often, and are already rooted in oral tradition. In fact, there are already four different names for creatures of the swamp found scattered all across Africa; there is the Mokele-mbembe found in Congo, Chipekwe found in Zimbabwe, the Isiququmadevu in Northern Angola, and of course, the Ninki Nanka, which is a river dragon found in Gambia. [FAR more than four names actually, and this description reverses the geographic locations for Isiququmadevu and Chimpekwe with each other. Chimpekwe means "Water Monster" generally and is applied to more than one kind of animal, including large fishes-DD] They might be scattered all over Africa but they do have the same basic appearance. Essentially, these river dragons are the loch ness monster’s African counterpart. They also have the same long neck features, huge size and the horse-like head. But the Gambian dragon does have some very special features that make it quite unique among its African brothers. Although there is a general idea of how people imagine these creatures to look like, there is no definite image or sketch that truly depicts them and so, there is still no concrete idea of what they look like. But there is a way to get a rough estimation, through the testimonials of the different witnesses. For the Ninki Nanka, it has some unusual features that separate it from the others and make it something very interesting. First of all, this creature is often described to have the body of a komodo dragon or a crocodile only it is much, much bigger (the size of the creature ranges from 30 feet to 50 feet) and it comes complete with a scaly, leathery body. To go with this body, it is also said to have the neck of a giraffe, and the head of a horse. This horse head is typically described to have three horns, one on each side of the head, and another one right in the middle of the forehead. For the people of Gambia, the Ninki Nanka is taken very seriously. First of all, people usually avoid the rivers and mangrove swamps in the area (especially if a dragon devil had been spotted there) since the Ninki Nanka usually go out at night to eat everything in its path. It is also believed that the whirlpools seen in these rivers are caused by the dragons. Certainly, this is one fearsome looking (and acting) creature that is very hard to spot. The secretive nature is compounded by the fact that people in Gambia are advised not to speak about seeing the Ninki Nanka, for fear of a gruesome death. This only adds to the mystery and frightening nature of these creatures.








Alleged Photograph of the Ninki-Nanka










Initially, I was willing to settle for the Komodo-dragon-like monitor lizard identity for this creature, but in fact the basic description conforms more to the Mokele-Mbembe or even the Loch Ness Monster as stated. However, the name is used generically for any Water Monster locally, including large freshwater stingrays and a possible Sivathere to give the decription of the head with peculiar horns. One type of report is easily separated out: about 30 feet long (given as a minimum but probably an actual maximum) with a fat body that drags on the ground and shaped like the body of a crocodile, a scaly appearance on at least part of the body and neck, a long neck that can shoot up higher than a man is tall with a head that might be compared to that of a horse or cow, only with a big mouth that opens up to show large fangs or tusks. The head has a "Horn" that is inflatable or else it is like an elephant's trunk. That last point is borrowed from descriptions further south where the same creature is called a "Water Elephant" and incidentally also compared to a walrus. It is said to leave a three-toed track, which is the type of track that Karl Shuker is shown as holding in cast form in one of his photos. I have not heard of the three-toed tracks being reported in Gambia, but it would be consistent.




So while the basic idea might be a sort of Mokele-Mbembe creature such as are also seen further South in Tropical Africa, that type is most likely NOT a common inhabitant of the river Gambia and it would not usually be whart the witnesses are describing. The story about "If you see it, you are going to die" is also repeated about the more common "Congo Dragons" further South. However, I am willing to wager the usual water monster seen in the area actually IS the "Water-Elephant" except that there might also be sightings of the Surviving Sivathere in the area in order that witnesses might come to see the ungulate head with the unusual horns. And this would be a case where the Water Elephant would BE a Sea elephant or an elephant seal, possibly the same creature sometimes reported in the Cape Verde Islands and formerly the Azores as a "Sea cow" (And comparable to the "Sea cows" of St. Helena in former days: all of these "Sea cows" were supposed to haul out on shore amphibiously and that is not possible with actual sirenians)



One consequence of this identification is the possibility that the "Ugly Mermaids" reported by Columbus in mid-North Atlantic and commonly explained as manatees might actually have been female elephant seals instead: mid-ocean is a very unusual situation to find manatees in.



One of the North Atlantic reports which sounds suspiciously as if it might have been an elephant seal was the subject of an earlier blog posting. It was seen in the late 1800s and between the Azores and Cape Verde Islands: and there are other sightings of the type on both sides of the Atlantic more recently.



Human, Elephant Seal and Elephant shown at the same scale. A large male elephant seal has about the same weight as a female elephant.










This is the same rock-art depiction of "Congo Dragons" from Tanganyika posted earlier in the Living Sivatherium blog entry. The two rather shapeless creatures shown at the bottom are what I take to be a pair of elephant seals hauled up on shore, as in the photo below it. On the coasts of East Africa, Elephant Seals might also be the cause of perrenial "Sea Monster" reports off Zanzibar and possibly even Kenya further North.











Male Elephant Seals in Combat. Such Combats produce scarring on the neck and trunk which gives an appearance of scaly skin.