Eastern Bigfoot, New Demonstrations

A facebook Friend of mine sent me photos of a variety of casts he hasd made in the Midwestern part of the US (mostly in Ohio I think. I selected two that I thought were exceptionally representative of the "Ape" (Swamp Ape/Wood Ape) and more humanlike (Actually Neanderthaloid) tracks out of the dozen or more examples that were on display. Both kinds are called Skunk Apes in Florida and Brush Apes (etc) in Texas. I also added drawings of the equivalent foot bottoms for an actual ape and a human being, from a textbook illustration that went on display on this blog a while back. I hoped to get a better impression of the "Long and thin" types of ape footprint which more closely resembles an orangutan's foot.

Here is a selection of the Unknown apes from around the Pacific rim All of them seem to be just variations on the orangutan and derived from the ground-dwelling "Fossil Pongo" that inhabited China about the same time as Gigantopithecus. The fate of their classification in general depends on decisions regarding some of the samples that we already have. If the Yeti DNA samples, Orang Pendek hair samples, Yeren samples and even the "Fossil Pongo" are all classified in the same species as the commoner orangutans, we will not have a Cryptozoological situation, we will only have an expanded range for a known species. At present tis is a quandary.
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Neanderthal as Wildman from "Yowie Hunter"

 Our other problem is that the "Hairy Cavemen" such as the Neanderthals turn out have interbred with us and so they were the same species as the rest of us. Furthermore at some point in the development of our species, the hairless tropical mutant form at some point broke out into the territory of the more cold-adapted Northern forms of our species and predominated over them. The situation follows this  mock-up:

  And presumably this is the end result of the "out of Africa"movement.

But that means that the hairy wildmen that persist in pockets of wilderness worldwide (and which includes both pygmy, normal-sized, and giant variations) Is only another kind of people. That was my conclusion made decades ago and Im sticking to it. The problem is that these "Hairy Primitives" (as Ivan Sanderson called them) are also not Cryptozoological subjects they are a known species
(Below is what could be called a cosplay for "Old Yellow-top, a Canadian example of the more manlike Eastern Bigfoot.)

The Tote-Up

http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/08/dale-drinnon-mystery-primates-tote-up.html
Coleman et al, in The Field Guide to Bigfoot... also gives nine categories, thus:
1. Neo-Giants, (=)
2.* True Giants (Gigantopithecus),

3.x  Marked Hominid, (=)
4.x  Neandertaloid, (=)
5.x  Erectus Hominid, (=)
6.x Proto-pygmy,

7.x*  Unknown Pongid,
8.x * Giant Monkey,
9. Merbeing,

-out of which I discount as separate categories the true giants, marked hominids, Neandertaloids, erectus hominids and proto-pygmys, and the last four of these on the grounds that they are not only probably variants of one species, but that species is most likely not separable from Homo sapiens. I retain the categories neo-giants, unknown pongid, giant monkeys and allow the mer-beings but also keep that category as a questionable status. [There is a good chance that many if not most sightings in the Unknown Pongid and Giant Monkey categories are of animals in known species and the categories are also invalid for that reason]

In this case, the categories unknown pongid, giant monkey and merfolk are NOT unified categories representing a single cryptid as a single species per category. The categories are thus also invalid as formulated. However, in each of those categories I have also eliminated some candidates such that the unknown pongids of Africa are removed from unknown status - they are very likely displaced or unusual chimpanzees and gorillas. The remaining Asiatic and American pongids are all mostly like orangutans and do form a recognisable sequence, although they may not belong to the same species ... By the same token, ALL of the giant monkeys are very likely merely outsized monkeys of known species, except for the South American Isnachi. It should be noted that it was a major error to make one category for both Old World and New World monkeys in the same group.

ADDITIONAL:
My Friend Jeffrey Patterson on Facebook has a collection of some pretty recognizable faces found in so-called "Blobsquatch" videos. One of the recent ones he has sent to me has that distinctive "Caveman" look: it is an Ohio "Grassman"

 

 

I told him that one was clear enough I could probably recognize him if I should see him again.

And another one from a 2008 video posted on YouTube is a clear profile of a young ape:

 

And I am very nearly 100% certain both of these are exactly what they seem to be at first glance. They are the more humanlike and more apelike versions of the Eastern Bigfoot, Swamp Ape, Skunk Ape or Wood ape. And typical of both categories over much of Asia, Australia, North America and South America. And neither of them are really at all mysterious when you come right down to it.

Curupira, And Other South American Wildmen

 

 

http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2012_04_01_archive.html

An index on South American Wild Men

(Click on the links below to read the Patagonian Monsters information for these creatures)

• CURUPI and YASY YATERE, Paraguay.
• CAAPORA, Paraguay
  Caapora - another wild man
• SAVAGE MAN, Venezuela
  The "Savage" Man of Venezuela
• SAVAGE MAN, Tucuyo, Venezuela.
  Ape men and Water Tigers in the 1620s
• CORUPIRA and BORARO, Amazon
  Korupira, the red haired Amazonian man
• SACHARUNA or CHULLACHAQUI, Peru.
  Sacharuna or chullachaqui the “jungle men”
• DIDI and NON DESCRIPT, Guyana
  Ape Men (Neanderthal?) sightings in South America

Corupira and all variants prob. originally variants of Corpo pelos, hairy body. Recorded synonyms for Wild Man include Sylvestres, Sauvages, Hommes Sauvages, Pilosi, Homo pilosus (Hairy man) and some of these are recorded from South America and used as caual synonyms for rumoured hairy subhumans such as the Didi and Maricoxi
http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2012/08/some-impressions-of-texan-and-n-mexican.html

Curupira Little People of South America. Etymology: From the Guaraní (Tupí) curumim (“boy”) + pira (“body”). Kuru in Aché means “short” or “small.” Variant names: Caá-porá (“mountain lord”), Caiçara (for the female), Caipora, Cayporé, Coropira, Corubira (Bakairí/Carib), Kaaguerre, Kaapore, Korupira (Tupí/Guaraní), Kurupi (Guaraní), Kurú-piré (Guaraní), Yurupari (Tucano/ Tucanoan). Physical description: Height, 3–4[5] feet. Covered with hair. Red or yellow skin. Large head like a chimpanzee. Red head-hair. Shaggy mane around the neck. Flattened nose. Large mouth. Green or blue teeth. Large feet, said to point backwards. Crooked toes. Behavior: Arboreal. Poor swimmer. Emits a birdlike whistle. Eats bananas. Said to smoke a pipe. Lives in hollow trees. Said to abduct children and rape women. Can shape-shift. Protects trees, forests, and game. Rides a pig or deer. Tracks: Apelike prints.[and humanlike prints, allegedly turned back to front] Habitat: Forests, hills, ravines, mountains. Distribution: Pará, Amazonas, and Pernambuco States in northern Brazil; Paraná, Rio Grande do Sul, and Goiás States in southern Brazil; Misiones Department in Paraguay; Chaco Province, Argentina. Present status: Caipora has become a minor god in the Candomblé religion. Possible explanation: Surviving Protopithecus, a Late Pleistocene spider monkey known from fossils in eastern Brazil. Sources: Charles Carter Blake, “Note on Stone Celts, from Chiriqui,” Transactions of the Ethnological Society of London, new ser., 2 (1863): 166–170; Herbert H. Smith, Brazil: The Amazons and the Coast (New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1879), pp. 560–569; Daniel G. Brinton, “The Dwarf Tribe of the Upper Amazon,” American Anthropologist 11 (1898): 277–279; Juan B. Ambrosetti, Supersticiones y leyendas (Buenos Aires: La Cultura Argentina, 1917), pp. 89–92; Luís da Câmara Cascudo, Dicionário do folclore Brasileiro (Rio de Janeiro: Instituto Nacional do Livro, 1962), vol. 1, pp. 166–168, 261–262; Napoleão Figueiredo and Anaíza Vergolino e Silva, Festas de santo e encantados (Belém, Brazil: Academia Paraense de Letras, 1972); Maria Thereza Cunha de Giacomo, Curupira: Lenda indigena (São Paulo, Brazil: Melhoramentos, 1975); Karl Shuker, “On the Trail of the Curupira,” Fortean Times, no. 102 (September 1997): 17; John E. Roth, American Elves (Jefferson, N.C.: McFarland, 1997), pp. 50–54, 83–89, 94–95, 107

Didi Unknown Primate of South America. Etymology: Possibly a Carib word. Variant names: Dai-dai, Didi-aguiri, Drudi- di, Massikruman, Quato. Physical description: Height, 5 feet. Reddishbrown or black hair or fur. Thickset, powerful build. Receding forehead. Heavy brows. Large eyes. Big-lobed ears. Flared nostrils. High cheekbones. Thick lips. Jutting jaw. Opposable thumbs. Long arms. Long, slender feet. No tail. Behavior: Shy. Swings arms while walking erect. Apparently lives and travels as part of a pair. Call is “hoo hoo” or a long, melancholy whistle, beginning in a high key then dying away. Builds crude brush houses from palm leaves. Throws sticks and mud. Accepts food that is left out for it. Said to be able to mate successfully with humans. Tracks: Apelike. Large toe joint of the male flares out, while the female’s does not.[Humanlike] Distribution: Mazaruni, Cotinga, Berbice, and Demerara Rivers in Guyana; French Guiana. Significant sightings: A British prospector named Haines came across two Didi in the Konawaruk Mountains, Guyana, in 1910. They were covered in reddish-brown hair. A guide named Miegam was traveling up the Berbice River in Guyana in 1918 with three others when they saw two hairy creatures on the riverbank. The creatures’ footprints looked apelike rather than human. Mycologist Gary Samuels observed a 5-foottall Didi about 60 feet away in the Guyanese forest in 1987. It walked past on two feet, making an occasional “hoo” sound. Sources: Edward Bancroft, An Essay on the Natural History of Guyana, in South America (London: T. Becket and P. A. De Hondt, 1769), pp. 130–131; Charles Barrington Brown, Canoe and Camp Life in British Guiana (London: E. Stanford, 1876), pp. 87–88, 123, 385; L. C. van Panhuys, “Are There Pygmies in French Guiana?” Proceedings of the International Congress of Americanists 13 (1905): 131–133; Nello Beccari, “Ameranthropoides loysi, gli Atelini e l’importanza della morfologia cerebrale nella classificazione delle scimmie,” Archivio per l’Antropologia e la Etnologia 73 (1943): 1–112; Ivan T. Sanderson, Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life (Philadelphia: Chilton, 1961), pp. 178–181; Mark A. Hall, Living Fossils: The Survival of Homo gardarensis, Neandertal Man, and Homo erectus (Minneapolis, Minn.: Mark A. Hall, 1999), pp. 50–51; Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe, The Field Guide to Bigfoot, Yeti, and Other Mystery Primates Worldwide (New York: Avon, 1999), pp. 72, 183.

Maricoxi Wildm an of South America. Etymology: Arikapu (Macro-Ge) word. Variant name: Morocoxo (Rikbaktsa/Macro- Ge). Physical description: Covered with hair. Apelike. Sloping forehead. Heavy browridge. Long arms. Behavior: Makes grunting noises. Bad odor. Uses bow-and-arrow weapons. Lives in villages. Uses a horn when hunting. Distribution: Serra dos Parecis, Mato Grosso State, Brazil. Significant sighting: On an expedition to the area in 1914, Percy H. Fawcett encountered two hairy people who threatened him with bows and arrows and then ran away. Later, he came across a village in a clearing where they lived and was again approached menacingly. Fawcett fired a pistol and managed to retreat. Sources: Percy H. Fawcett, Exploration Fawcett (London: Hutchinson, 1953), pp. 200–202; Ivan T. Sanderson, “Hairy Primitives or Relic Submen in South America,” Genus 18 (1962): 60–74; Fritz Tolksdorf and Christian Darby, “Great White Chief of the Cannibals,” Argosy, July 1971, p. 42.

 

Didi, or Coaa-pora (Female and Male sightings)

 




Curupi
The stories that it wrapped its penis around the waist is more likely to be a reference to a be a rawhide belt or a
 loinclolth including an animal tail hanging at the back (Or wound around theneck it seems)

 

The standard Curupiri is of less than usual human height, but stocky build,

and the facial features are strongly Neanderthaloid .

Caapura



curuoira
The Creature is associated with wild pigs: more likely they like to steal the piglets to eat
"Feet turned in backward" is a common story told about the wildmen generally worldwide.



Curupira

The myths of many lands including Peru describe the creatures as like satyrs in their lustful habits

curupi

The name alternatively  is supposed to mean "Wooly Leg"



mohan



Mohan_pijao



pombero

 

Pombero (Dwendi Version, Poss=Mono  Grande?)

Maricoxi meet Fawcett

The Caa Pora of Gustavo Desimone   Obviously intended to represent the orangutan sort of Mapinguary (Mono Rey). The eyes on stalks are the artist's personal  embellishment, since the  creature otherwise does not seem to have a regular head     



Alternative classification scheme. The big one in back should be more human-like and is the same as the 'Patagonian Giants'

 



Uruyali

Background on Malaysian "Bigfoot"

Some believe there is more than one Bigfoot.
 Some believe there is a whole colony
 of the giant, hairy creatures  which  has
 been named "Orang Lenggor" (Lenggor People).

http://www.ufodigest.com/news/1206/malaysia-bf.html

The Malaysian Bigfoot Mystery - An Earlier Take
by Carlosox

Posted: 00:05 December 3, 2006

The recent reports about the sighting of a Bigfoot type of creature in the forests of Malaysia is not something new. There have been many such sightings previously in the recorded history of that country. Much notice was not taken about these cases however, as reports about paranormal incidents are rife in Malaysia. The fact that the present incident has seen so much press was due mainly to the fact that the parties who were involved hoped to gain monetarily by doing so. The Malaysian government too got into the act, hoping to promote the country as a tourist destination for those interested in the paranormal.

A' Bigfoot' sighting took place in the 1970s in a plantation I used to work in. It was a localized affair, and hardly made a ripple in any of the tabloids of the country. It has some significance however in the light of the recent sightings.
A new plantation company was founded near the town of Sitiawan in Peninsular Malaysia around the 1960s and 1970s. Being a new company without many assets, it had to start small. Clearing of the forest was done on a piecemeal basis, and recruitment of good and reliable staff proved to be a problem mainly due to the remoteness of the area. Work progressed however; and to keep track of this, a small office was built in a clearing in the forest right in the middle of the property, which was still mainly forest. Staff who were monitoring the clearing operation by contractors could retire to this office during lunch hour and have a little shut eye after their meal, not being bothered by leeches or blood sucking flies. As work progressed, the office got a little bigger. Files were now stored in the office as well as copies of important documents. The directors thought that employing night watchmen for the office was a good idea, especially since the felling contractors stored the diesoline for their machines in drums in the office compound.
A night watchman was soon working in the office compound from 7pm to 7am everyday. All he had with him however in order to perform his duties were a stout pole, a torchlight, a hurricane lamp and the key to the toilet (the directors thought that if he really got into trouble, he could lock himself up in the toilet!). The watchman reported to the staff that arrived at the office at 7am every morning, before he signed off for the day. Everything went on fine for a while. The watchman had nothing to report every morning. There were no incidents during the night.
One day however, when the staff arrived in the morning, there was no sign of the watchman. What greeted them however was a picture of destruction. Flower pots were smashed, and the diesel drums were tossed about or overturned. The desk and table at which the watchman used to sit were smashed. When the staff was taking all this in, they heard a faint voice calling them. 'Tuan', ' tuan ' ( Sir, Sir ), it called weakly. The staff checked for the location of the voice and found it to be coming from the top of a coconut palm nearby. There almost at the top of the palm tree was perched the watchman. He was as pale as a ghost and trembling like a leaf. The staff coaxed him to come down which he did slowly and painfully. When the staff inquired as to what had happened, this is what he had to say.
At around 2am, the watchman heard a series of piercing screams coming from the jungle just outside the office compound. He immediately put out his hurricane lamp, and crouched in a corner and watched the area from where the sound was coming. It was a moonlit night, and the watchman could see very clearly. The screams got closer. Suddenly, breaking out of the undergrowth stood what the watchman could describe only as a gorilla. It was ape like, covered in dark hair and stood about four feet tall. It looked immensely powerful as it lumbered toward where the diesel drums were kept. The watchman watched in fear and trepidation as the creature grabbed the forty five gallon drums filled with diesel and flung them around like toys. The drums were stored at the other end of the office compound from where the watchman was. As soon as the creature had finished with the drums, it moved towards the flower pots. The watchman did not wait any longer. He crept away out of sight of the creature and climbed up the coconut palm. With ear piercing shrieks, the creature continued its destruction of whatever was in the compound. Then silence fell. The watchman did not dare move from his perch, fearing the creature might still be around. The fact that it looked ape like did not help matters much as scaling up the palm tree would be the easiest thing for it.
The watchman quit immediately. Another was employed. Everything went on as usual for a time. Then when the staff arrived one morning, it was a repeat of the above incident. The office door had been smashed in. Chairs and tables that were present in the office were flung in the lawn in front of the office. This time however, the new watchman was not up a tree. He had locked himself up in the toilet as he had no time to make it to the tree. The creature had moved too fast. For good measure, the watchman climbed on top of the water cistern which was in the toilet. It was a concrete structure about seven feet above ground. This guard had the same tale to tell. Blood curdling screams, followed by the appearance of an ape like creature covered in black hair, which then carried out the destruction.
The directors decided that things had gone too far. They erected a perimeter fence round the office, installed a generator set and had the office compound lit the whole night through. The attacks stopped after this.
The recent sightings of 'Bigfoot 'in Malaysia could be the very same species that the guards had seen. It is interesting to note that the aboriginals of Australia also describe about an ape like creature that stands about four feet tall, is covered in dark hair and is immensely powerful. In my opinion, it could be a species of ape that is yet to be described by science due mainly to the remote areas it inhabits.[in this case the 4-5 foot tall one is just about "Standard human" size- there are also bigger ones and smallerones, as also stated in Australia. The Apes and humans are likewise to be differentiated better]

http://whofortedblog.com/2013/06/19/200-possible-bigfoot-footprints-found-in-alaysia/

Hundreds of Bizarre Footprints Attributed to Fearsome Bigfoot-Like Monster Stalking Malaysia

By Dana Matthews on June 19, 2013@planetweirddana

Some 200 bizarre footprints were stumbled upon in Malaysia last weekend, and the find is sending villagers into a panic for fear that the  Orang Lenggor, their terrifying local man-ape monster, is stalking the nearby woods.
The  long trail of prints was accidentally found on Saturday afternoon by 48 year old Kampung Kepis Baru villager, Adnan Pungut as he cleaned his workplace at a local rubber estate.
“I immediately informed the others because I was scared. I told the other villagers and all of us went back to the area,” Pungut told The Star Online. We found 200 footprints that were about the same size and tried to follow them. Based on the footprints, we can assume that the creature has two legs and weighs more than 100kg.”
A sweep of the area turned up evidence that the footprints made their way into a heavily wooded area, though the group decided that following the tracks any further could be hazardous to their health and called off the search.
The Orang Lenggor, or Lenggor Man, is basically Malaysia’s version of Bigfoot, though aren’t seen quite as cuddly and curious as their North American counterparts, with reports of their wanton destruction and blood curdling screams well-documented for years. One report from 2006 recounts a terrified warehouse nightwatchman’s encounter with the beast as it tosses 40 gallon drums of kerosene around “like toys”.
Unfortunately no images of the newly-discovered footprints have yet come to light, leaving us with only first-hand accounts the creature that may or may not have left them in its wake. Here’s hoping the big guy makes another appearance, and this time around someone savvy enough to have a camera pointed in his direction.
Did Malaysian villagers stumble upon the tracks of the fearsome Orang Lenggor? Does the Lenggor Man bear a grudge against the high price of kerosene? We want to know what you think! Share your thoughts with us on Facebook, tweet us @WhoForted, or leave a comment below!

Bigfoot Evidence: Malayan Manbeast

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2013/06/200-bigfoot-prints-terrifies-malaysian.html

200 Bigfoot Prints Terrifies Malaysian Village, Sets New Record For Foot Prints

Tuesday, June 18, 2013

The Star/Asia News Network

Remember those 120 sequential Bigfoot prints found near Eugene, Oregon? Well. That's nothing compared to what the Malaysians discovered near the village of Kampung Kepis Baru Tuesday morning. Apparently, the villagers are now afraid to go outside and scared to death of the unknown bipedal creature that made the prints.  READ MORE

[Although these tracks are called "Bigfoot-Like", they seem to be more of the Wildman category that Sanderson calls "Malayan Hairy Primitives" and Heuvelmans calls "B'lian" on his checklist. The most important information on these as recorded by Sandeson in Abominable Snowmen, Legend Come to Life is as follows: 

[p229]Yet, these ultra-primitive humans or sub-humans, or other even more lowly forms of Hominids, do not seem to be the only conundrums in this small but extremely esoteric area. Maybe they are the "Stinking Ones": maybe they are something else. Nevertheless, the former turned up in a very definite manner in 1953, and so concretely so, and so many times in rapid succession, that not only the benighted natives, but the European overseers, the local militia, the museum authorities, and even the "Government" itself became apprised of the matter and lent a hand. This is really a rather unusual turnout in ABSMery. It now transpires that just the same sort of thing had been going on throughout peninsular Malaya a few miles back from the few main roads since way back. These incidents had been either not reported, reported but not listened to, disbelieved, ridiculed, or actually suppressed, and, perhaps, latterly because of Communist guerrilla activities. However, this one got out—and, as the colloquialism goes, "but good." Looking over what published accounts of this incident there are, a really extraordinary number of quite baffling things come to light. I would say that this too is a classic example of what happens when a good case of ABSMery —or any other matter that is not at present accepted—occurs. But, first let me give the facts, as reported, chronologically.

It appears that on Christmas Day, 1953, a young Chinese girl by the name of Wong Yee Moi was engaged tapping rubber trees on an estate run by a Scot named Mr. G. M. Browne, in the Reserve that is called variously the Trolak, Trollak, or Trolek, in south Perak State, northern Malaya. According to her account, she felt a hand placed lightly on her shoulder and, turning around, was confronted by a most revolting female. This poor character wore, according to Moi, only an abbreviated loincloth of bark, was covered with hair, had a white (i.e. Caucasoid-type) skin, long black head-hair and a mustache; and she stank as if "of an animal." Half hysterical, Moi fled for the compound, but not before spotting two somewhat similar types which she said were males [no loincloths?] standing in the shade of some trees by a nearby river. These, she said, had mustaches hanging down to their waists. Up till this point, the account is fairly rational, even including Moi's addendum to the effect that the female grinned and showed long nasty fangs in what she (Moi) seems to have considered, despite her panic, to have been a friendly gesture. After this report, everybody became slightly insane.
Analyzing all the published reports that I can lay my hands on, it seems that this Mr. Browne immediately called up Security Forces' local headquarters—there being a continuing Communist emergency in the whole area—and, in response, a posse of the Malayan Security Guard was dispatched immediately under the leadership of one Corporal Talib, who seems to have been an extremely intelligent and also sensible man. He immediately deployed his forces and made search of the estate, in due course coming to the river mentioned by Moi and spotting three just such hairy types on its banks. However, upon bringing his platoon's arms to the ready, said creatures dived into the river, swam under water, emerged on the far bank, and forthwith vanished into the jungle. Subsequent to this, the only concrete facts in the case are that a Hindu Indian worker, named Appaisamy, on the same estate, the next day, also while squatting to shave the bark to bring on a flow of rubber latex, was suddenly encircled by a pair of hairy arms. He became completely panic-stricken; broke loose; headed for the compound, but fell down in a dead faint on the way. As he revived, the same trio were nearby and laughing at his discomfiture. He admitted this. That same day, a patrol of Corporal Talib's Guard again spotted the trio on the same riverbank.
That is all we have, apart from a few further anatomical details
p. 231
of the creatures given in retrospect by the various witnesses. Then, however, the experts, and other nonpresent commentators got into the act. And they provided the international wire services with some pretty interesting material. All kinds of previously unheard-of official departments came to light such as that of "The Aborigines" at Kuala Lumpur; the "Federation's Department of Museums and Aboriginal Research" and even "Radio Malaya" in the person of its Assistant Director, one Mr. Tony Beamish. These people made various suggestions. They ridiculed an idea put forward some years before, when an almost exactly similar incident had occurred, that the creatures seen were AWOL Japanese soldiers, tired of the war, and who had managed to survive life in the jungle; though they did dredge up the old one about having "white skins because they had lived in the dim light of the jungles so long." [This is, of course, rubbish; though it is true that a white man will get a lot whiter in such an environment.] But, some people came up with some really startling ideas.
Most prevalent were hints that these things could be, or might have been "primitive humans trying to get away from British aerial bombing, or flooding of their jungle abodes"; or again, "that they might be descendants of a race of hairy aborigines who, according to old legends, once roamed the forests of northern Malaya." What I would like to ask is, what had the Department of Aboriginal Affairs been up to prior to this astonishing suggestion, and why had they not turned up some evidence [other than that of Messrs. Skeat and Blagden] of the necessity for protecting them? Also, as that excellent radio person—Tony Beamish—is alleged to have said, this could be "one of the most valuable anthropological discoveries for years." (Actually, it would have been the greatest of all times.) It is really rather remarkable that nothing was finally done about it. Experts of the same "Department of Museums, etc." did state that they were trying to organize an expedition and they made a statement. Statements are always good; and they are often good for a laugh. This one was a near classic. It stated:
1. The creatures apparently had seen rifles because they
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fled when a security force corporal raised his rifle. Some of the "things" jumped in the river and swam away. Another ran into the jungle.
2. Their light skin probably indicates they have lived for years in the dark, overgrown Malayan jungles where sunlight rarely penetrates.
3. They recognized a crop of tapioca on one estate as food, pulling up roots and munching.
4. They spoke a language that was clearly not Chinese or Malayan, but more of a series of guttural grunts.
And this, mind you, from persons who were not only scientists and experts but officials. We stand amazed; but we make certain notes and reservations.
The number of ABSMs that jumped into the river has now changed from "all" to some; they are now alleged to have pulled tapioca roots and eaten them;  * they had a language. I cannot find any of these facts in the original reports of the Christmas, 1953 case but they do indeed appear in earlier cases, and in other parts of Malaya. In fact, it appears quite obvious from these latter that there had been quite a lot more information on this unpleasant subject in the files of the Department of Museums, etc., long before this time.
The most outstanding aspect of this case is perhaps the alleged "stink" of the creatures, as recorded by all witnesses who were near enough to them, and included in similar statements that emerged later about others, reported to have raided crops in different parts of Malaya. This single fact is exactly in accord with the age-old statements of the locals about such creatures. It is also in accord with some of the statements of the Amerinds about their large ABSMs in Canada and the northwestern United States. It accords, too, with remarks passed about them, almost casually, by Kurds, Sinkiangese, Mongolians, and others. Apart from this, the fangs, hairiness of body, but ultra-long-hairedness of face and head, the suggestion of primitive clothing, and the general "come-hitherness" of these creatures speaks a great deal.

And then in Sanderson's Classification:

I. SUB-HUMANS (East Eurasian and Oriental). Of about standard man size; hairy or partially hairy; head-hair differentiated from body hair; occasional use of very primitive tools such as sticks, bark cloth, clubs, hand stones; wary but not unfriendly; strong odor; some form of vocal communication but no true speech; good rock-climbers and swimmers; crepuscular and diurnal, possibly nocturnal also; may "trade."

(1) Proto-Malayans, as appeared on rubber estates 1953. [B'lian]

(2) Yunnan Hairy Primitives, as reported by Chinese.[Mao-Ren and Ye-ren]

p. 357

(3) Ksy-Giiks, of Central Eurasia; possibly a Neanderthaler.

(4) The Almas, of eastern Eurasia; a small kind of (3).

This is a local representation of the general type:

The ones seen in 1953 seem to have had longer head hair and shorter body hair.

 

Naked Apes, Dogs, Cats and Rats

People continue to ask me, if Bigfoot is hairy all over, how can it possibly be the same species as us? When I suggest the idea that Neanderthalers (and Heidelbergers) are probably the origin of some of the sightings and they are probably both A) hairy all over and B) the same species as us (varieties of Homo sapiens)

Here we have naked skinned, hairless variations of thec domestic dog and cat, and the lab rat, all of which are the same species as the more familiar fully haired species. Apparently it is a relatively simple mutation which turns the expression of a fully haired coat on or off and it does not affect the health or the well-being of the animal in any other way, besides the obvious fact that the animal is now exposed and vulnerable to the elements. And so it is with our own species. Evidently at one point about a million years ago, ancestors of our species went out of Africa and colonised much of the rerst of the world (evcentually). These were an odinary animal species, fully haired all over, except the brain was unusually developed and the creature was a habitual biped. Some hundreds of thousands of years later, a tropical phase of this species lost the hairy coat and then this new hairless kind went out of Africa to colonise the world. They prevailed while the older (archaic) hairy types went into  decline and finally went into hiding as refugees i the wilderness areas.

 

There are still some reasons to think we are the same species. Neanderthals were thought to have freely interbred with the normal H.sapiens, and the Almas woman Zana did likewise, which is one of the reasons to consider that the Almas types are relict Neanderthalers.

 

And there are still some of us that are perectly normal H.sapiens but just hairier than most of the rest of us. Having a hairy body alone is not good enough reason to say something is NOT a member of our species. And in mammals generally having more or less body hair is a trivial difference.

Bald-Headed Hairy Wildmen

In one of my Facebook groups, One member asked about the term "Hairy Man" and I posted a series of historical images much the same as Pearl Prihoda collects. One of them-the first one I reproduced here-showed a creature hairy all over but with a completely bald head. I mentioned that you get that sometimes in reports, but I also thought the shape of the head might be significant. Here I made a comparison with a Neanderthal skull and two older reconstructions; the skull and one of the reconstructions have a peak up on top in back, and the drawing from the 1790s shows a projection at the back of the head (a "Bun") which some Neanderthals had.

BTW, Pearl P sent me a very old story about another different Wild Man that was hairy all over and completely bald on top, originating from the 1100s, after this chart was made up.

Wildmen And Yokai Again

T[wo] Bigfoot busts from my collection in the UK. A model maker in Washington state made him for me back in 2007. He wanted to give [the one on the right] a more horrific appearance but I told him to make it as life like as possible.
Robert W. Morgan description of Forest Person he has researched.[left] This custom bust was made for me in 2005 by a NYC film effects artist. It was going to be part if a series of busts to be followed by a "Skunk Ape", "Yeren", "Yeti" and "Almasty". [Dale D has blown up the eyes to match the indicated size of the eye sockets and to match reports by other witnesses]

Two sculpted Bigfoot busts owned by Thomas Finlay, who resides in the UK

Homo (sapiens) heidelbergensis/neanderthalensis skull above
Orangutan skull shown below, compare to the head structure shown in the two busts

I believe the two busts correspond to two different types of creatures both named "Skunk Ape" and "Eastern Bigfoot" by different researchers-one being more of a human and the other being more like an ape (Specifically most like an orangutan). And what is more, they are the same as two kinds of "Wildmen" commonly spoken of in Tibet and South and East Asia (or the Oriental realm generally)

Big Yeti, Yak Stealer or Yak Bear, Greater Migo, Nyalmo, etc

In a separate instance, I have suggested that the "One-eyed" appearance of the Mapinguari is due to having the alarm-flash eyelids that orangtans have (along with many other kinds of apes and monkeys), together with the darker space in between, the whole of the area looking like one huge eye in the middle of the face at a distance. Orangutanlike creatures are rumored also in the Philippines and Mainland South Asia, and they are sometimes described as cyclopses

Glaugco's representation of a Mapinguari compared to an orangutan

Recently, Dr Jeff Meldrum posted on his facebook [page asking about a Japanese Yokai creature called the Yama-chichi and asked if it could be considered to be the equivalent of the Bigfoot. I immediately referred him to the following link, which was the first thing that came up on a search:

 Yama-jijii(やまじじい)

Yamajijii(やまじじい)also known as Yama-chichi(there is also an entirely different Yokai with the name Yama-chichi as well),is a Yokai from Shikoku Island(the tales are very wide spread throughout the island)that is said to live in the mountains there.Most stories agree that he has a large rock-like head with one huge eye in the center of his head with a mouth full of small razor sharp teeth and a body covered in gray short-haired fur and that he can read minds(much like the Satori)and that he has a very loud voice capable of killing(with which he usually likes to challenge people to a loudness contest).There are also many stories where a Yama-jijii is kept as a pet like a hunting dog by hunters.Some stories say he is Child sized other stories say he is the size of a rather large man.Some stories say in addition to his large eye,he has another very small eye,other stories say he has only one eye,one arm,and one leg.Some stories say he is a peace-full nature loving creature,other stories say he will take away animals and small children to eat.

Here's my Yama-jijii action figure.I sculpted his rock-like head from clay over a CTVT Cochise head.His body is a Castaway tan (original flesh) colored body which I sculpted on fur with the clay.I painted all sculpted parts with acrylic paints and sealed with Modpodge.

And it just so happens that this one-eyed creature is listed as one of the traditional creatures equated to the Hibagon or Yeti-like creature that is being reported more recently in Japan. Dr Meldrum's original posting was a smaller copy of this book being highlighted on one of the internet sites:

http://www.loc.gov/pictures/item/2004666377/

Yama-chichi kills man in sleep

Creator(s): Takehara, Shunsensai, fl. 1789-1817, artist

Related Names:
Tōkaen, Michimaro, fl. 1808-1841 , author

Date Created/Published: [1841]

Medium: 1 print (2 pages) : woodcut, color.

Summary: Ukiyo-e print illustration showing scene from traditional tale in which a Yeti-like creature inhales the life force from sleeping travelers; opposite page contains text; covers from other volumes also shown.

-The "Stealing of Breath" I take to be an allusion to sleep apnea. Here is a fuller account from a site specialising in Japanese Folklore:

http://ioreth.org/mukashi/yamachichi.html

What the Yama-chichi Observed

Mukashi mukashi, there was a cooper in a certain place. While he was working outside one morning after it had snowed, a frightful monster with only one eye and one leg appeared from the mountain and stood in front of the cooper. Seeing him, the cooper began to tremble and thought, "This must be the thing called a yama-chichi, which I have heard about in stories for a long time." The apparition then said, "Say, Cooper, you're thinking I must be the thing called a yama-chichi, aren't you?" The cooper thought, "How awful. He observes right away what I think." Then the monster said, "Say, cooper, you think it is awful because I observe right away what you think, don't you?" After that whatever the cooper thought was observed until he was quite confounded. With nothing he could do about it, the man kept at his work, trembling violently all the time. Suddenly his numb hands slipped accidentally. The bamboo hoop sprang out in front of him and slapped the yama-chichi in the face. The yama-chichi was taken by surprise. "These human beings are dangerous because they sometimes do things they are not thinking about," he declared. "There is no telling what will happen if I stay here." He went stumping pell-mell back to the mountains.

--From the Kyōdo Kenkyū, Vol. II. Collected in Tottori.

There is actually another bakemono [Folktale] called yama-chichi, which does not have the same description as this mind-reading monster. The alternate yama-chichi is a monster that appears when people are sleeping, and sucks the life out of their mouths. It is also said that if one awakens while the yama-chichi is draining another of his energy, then the energy drained before that point is transfered to the person who awakens.

[This is thus a form of Night Hag or Nightmare. To confuse things further, "Chichi" is Japanese slang for a women's breasts-DD]

The appearance of the Night-Hag Yamachichi would appear to be based on an orangutan like ape though, the resemblance is quite striking. And if a one-eyed Wildman is meant to describe a sort of an orangutan, then the two Yamachichis could be variant traditions describing the ure seemt the same as the lesser Yeti or the more apeklike Skunk Ape.

But the "Mindreading" capabilities are borroed from stories of a more standard wildman, the Satori

Satori also means "Enlightenment", but the theory has been advanced that in the case of the Wildmen, the name is a transcription of the name used by European missionaries, "Satyrus"and it could be that its supposed mental powers arose from a pun (parallel instances could be cited). At this point I do not need to argue whether Bigfoots are or are not psychic, all I am interested in is what are the creatures supposed to lok like.

Below are a couple of recent toys said to represent tradional Wildmen, the one on the left is called a Satori and the one on the right is said to be a "Bearman" (The traditional name in Tibet and China)

The Satori is more of a transplanted Central-Asiatic Almas in that it is more of a hairy human. Depictions of it run from little different from an ordinary monkey (Richard Freeman shows such a print in his Yokai dictionary) up to very nearly human (possibly meaning to depict human-halfbreeds) such as in the case of the "Satori" depicted below:

Sekien Satori, From Wikipedia

Sekien Oni in cave, eating some furry varmint, from Wikipedia

"Cannibal Giants" fall into a different category; in Japan they are known as Onis. Since they seem to be to some low degree as cultural animals, the real creatures the legends are based on are more probably like the Siberian Chuchuunas

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oni_(folklore)

Oni (鬼^?) are creatures from Japanese folklore, variously translated as demons, devils, ogres or trolls. They are popular characters in Japanese art, literature and theatre.^[1]
Depictions of oni vary widely but usually portray them as hideous, gigantic creatures with sharp claws, wild hair, and two horns growing from their heads.^[2] They are humanoid for the most part, but occasionally, they are shown with unnatural features such as odd numbers of eyes or extra fingers and toes.^[3] Their skin may be any number of colors, but red and blue are particularly common.^4][5]

Notes

1. ^ Lim, Shirley; Ling, Amy (1992). Reading the literatures of Asian America. Temole University Press. p. 242. ISBN 0-87722-935-X. http://books.google.com/books?id=X0ntg_EzA0kC&pg=PA242&dq=ogres+oni&num=100&cd=2#v=onepage&q=ogres%20oni&f=false.
2. ^ Mack, Carol; Mack, Dinah (1998). A Field Guide to Demons, Fairies, Fallen Angels, and Other Subversive Spirits. Arcade Publishing. p. 116. ISBN [[Special:BookSources/1-55970-447-1|1-55970-447-1]]. http://books.google.com/books?id=1IDS3UUrqAIC&pg=PA116&dq=oni#v=onepage&q=oni&f=false.
3. ^ Bush, Laurence C. (2001). Asian horror encyclopedia: Asian horror culture in literature, manga and folklore. Writers Club Press. p. 141. ISBN 0-595-20181-4. http://books.google.com/books?id=lesg5YSXckQC&pg=PA141&dq=oni#v=onepage&q=oni&f=false.
4. ^ Hackin, J.; Couchoud, Paul Louis (2005). Asiatic Mythology 1932. Kessinger Publishing. p. 443. ISBN 1-4179-7695-0. http://books.google.com/books?id=0ECwJUcn1_UC&pg=PA443&dq=oni#v=onepage&q=oni&f=false.
5. ^ Turne, Patricia; Coulter, Charles Russell (2000). Dictionary of ancient deities. Oxford University Press. p. 363. ISBN 0-19-514504-6. http://books.google.com/books?id=jEcpkWjYOZQC&pg=PA363&dq=oni#v=onepage&q=oni&f=false.

In sum, I would suggest that in addition to the standard Sasquatch (?Gigantopithecus) type familiar enough in both Eastern Asia and Western North America, we have two other forms whose range overlaps the larger Hominid: one a type of orangutan which likes on the ground and so has very different feet (known in fossil form as "Fossil Pongo" although probably it needs a new genus  and species name) and the other a more familiar type of relic hominid like the Almas, which also has a more specialised larger form, the Chuchuuna. Both the more apelike and the more humanlike forms occur in North America and would seem to be related to creatures reported in South America. the South American apelike Mapinguariints that are different again, and once again show a specialization for arboreal life much as in the known orangutans of Indonesia.

Best Wishes, Dale D.