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Friday, 28 June 2013

Curupira, And Other South American Wildmen

 
 
http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2012_04_01_archive.html

An index on South American Wild Men

(Click on the links below to read the Patagonian Monsters information for these creatures)

Corupira and all variants prob. originally variants of Corpo pelos, hairy body. Recorded synonyms for Wild Man include Sylvestres, Sauvages, Hommes Sauvages, Pilosi, Homo pilosus (Hairy man) and some of these are recorded from South America and used as caual synonyms for rumoured hairy subhumans such as the Didi and Maricoxi
http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2012/08/some-impressions-of-texan-and-n-mexican.html

Curupira Little People of South America. Etymology: From the Guaraní (Tupí) curumim (“boy”) + pira (“body”). Kuru in Aché means “short” or “small.” Variant names: Caá-porá (“mountain lord”), Caiçara (for the female), Caipora, Cayporé, Coropira, Corubira (Bakairí/Carib), Kaaguerre, Kaapore, Korupira (Tupí/Guaraní), Kurupi (Guaraní), Kurú-piré (Guaraní), Yurupari (Tucano/ Tucanoan). Physical description: Height, 3–4[5] feet. Covered with hair. Red or yellow skin. Large head like a chimpanzee. Red head-hair. Shaggy mane around the neck. Flattened nose. Large mouth. Green or blue teeth. Large feet, said to point backwards. Crooked toes. Behavior: Arboreal. Poor swimmer. Emits a birdlike whistle. Eats bananas. Said to smoke a pipe. Lives in hollow trees. Said to abduct children and rape women. Can shape-shift. Protects trees, forests, and game. Rides a pig or deer. Tracks: Apelike prints.[and humanlike prints, allegedly turned back to front] Habitat: Forests, hills, ravines, mountains. Distribution: Pará, Amazonas, and Pernambuco States in northern Brazil; Paraná, Rio Grande do Sul, and Goiás States in southern Brazil; Misiones Department in Paraguay; Chaco Province, Argentina. Present status: Caipora has become a minor god in the Candomblé religion. Possible explanation: Surviving Protopithecus, a Late Pleistocene spider monkey known from fossils in eastern Brazil. Sources: Charles Carter Blake, “Note on Stone Celts, from Chiriqui,” Transactions of the Ethnological Society of London, new ser., 2 (1863): 166–170; Herbert H. Smith, Brazil: The Amazons and the Coast (New York: Charles Scribner’s Sons, 1879), pp. 560–569; Daniel G. Brinton, “The Dwarf Tribe of the Upper Amazon,” American Anthropologist 11 (1898): 277–279; Juan B. Ambrosetti, Supersticiones y leyendas (Buenos Aires: La Cultura Argentina, 1917), pp. 89–92; Luís da Câmara Cascudo, Dicionário do folclore Brasileiro (Rio de Janeiro: Instituto Nacional do Livro, 1962), vol. 1, pp. 166–168, 261–262; Napoleão Figueiredo and Anaíza Vergolino e Silva, Festas de santo e encantados (Belém, Brazil: Academia Paraense de Letras, 1972); Maria Thereza Cunha de Giacomo, Curupira: Lenda indigena (São Paulo, Brazil: Melhoramentos, 1975); Karl Shuker, “On the Trail of the Curupira,” Fortean Times, no. 102 (September 1997): 17; John E. Roth, American Elves (Jefferson, N.C.: McFarland, 1997), pp. 50–54, 83–89, 94–95, 107

Didi Unknown Primate of South America. Etymology: Possibly a Carib word. Variant names: Dai-dai, Didi-aguiri, Drudi- di, Massikruman, Quato. Physical description: Height, 5 feet. Reddishbrown or black hair or fur. Thickset, powerful build. Receding forehead. Heavy brows. Large eyes. Big-lobed ears. Flared nostrils. High cheekbones. Thick lips. Jutting jaw. Opposable thumbs. Long arms. Long, slender feet. No tail. Behavior: Shy. Swings arms while walking erect. Apparently lives and travels as part of a pair. Call is “hoo hoo” or a long, melancholy whistle, beginning in a high key then dying away. Builds crude brush houses from palm leaves. Throws sticks and mud. Accepts food that is left out for it. Said to be able to mate successfully with humans. Tracks: Apelike. Large toe joint of the male flares out, while the female’s does not.[Humanlike] Distribution: Mazaruni, Cotinga, Berbice, and Demerara Rivers in Guyana; French Guiana. Significant sightings: A British prospector named Haines came across two Didi in the Konawaruk Mountains, Guyana, in 1910. They were covered in reddish-brown hair. A guide named Miegam was traveling up the Berbice River in Guyana in 1918 with three others when they saw two hairy creatures on the riverbank. The creatures’ footprints looked apelike rather than human. Mycologist Gary Samuels observed a 5-foottall Didi about 60 feet away in the Guyanese forest in 1987. It walked past on two feet, making an occasional “hoo” sound. Sources: Edward Bancroft, An Essay on the Natural History of Guyana, in South America (London: T. Becket and P. A. De Hondt, 1769), pp. 130–131; Charles Barrington Brown, Canoe and Camp Life in British Guiana (London: E. Stanford, 1876), pp. 87–88, 123, 385; L. C. van Panhuys, “Are There Pygmies in French Guiana?” Proceedings of the International Congress of Americanists 13 (1905): 131–133; Nello Beccari, “Ameranthropoides loysi, gli Atelini e l’importanza della morfologia cerebrale nella classificazione delle scimmie,” Archivio per l’Antropologia e la Etnologia 73 (1943): 1–112; Ivan T. Sanderson, Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life (Philadelphia: Chilton, 1961), pp. 178–181; Mark A. Hall, Living Fossils: The Survival of Homo gardarensis, Neandertal Man, and Homo erectus (Minneapolis, Minn.: Mark A. Hall, 1999), pp. 50–51; Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe, The Field Guide to Bigfoot, Yeti, and Other Mystery Primates Worldwide (New York: Avon, 1999), pp. 72, 183.

Maricoxi Wildm an of South America. Etymology: Arikapu (Macro-Ge) word. Variant name: Morocoxo (Rikbaktsa/Macro- Ge). Physical description: Covered with hair. Apelike. Sloping forehead. Heavy browridge. Long arms. Behavior: Makes grunting noises. Bad odor. Uses bow-and-arrow weapons. Lives in villages. Uses a horn when hunting. Distribution: Serra dos Parecis, Mato Grosso State, Brazil. Significant sighting: On an expedition to the area in 1914, Percy H. Fawcett encountered two hairy people who threatened him with bows and arrows and then ran away. Later, he came across a village in a clearing where they lived and was again approached menacingly. Fawcett fired a pistol and managed to retreat. Sources: Percy H. Fawcett, Exploration Fawcett (London: Hutchinson, 1953), pp. 200–202; Ivan T. Sanderson, “Hairy Primitives or Relic Submen in South America,” Genus 18 (1962): 60–74; Fritz Tolksdorf and Christian Darby, “Great White Chief of the Cannibals,” Argosy, July 1971, p. 42.

 
Didi, or Coaa-pora (Female and Male sightings)
 



Curupi
The stories that it wrapped its penis around the waist is more likely to be a reference to a be a rawhide belt or a
 loinclolth including an animal tail hanging at the back (Or wound around theneck it seems)
 
The standard Curupiri is of less than usual human height, but stocky build,
and the facial features are strongly Neanderthaloid .
Caapura



curuoira
The Creature is associated with wild pigs: more likely they like to steal the piglets to eat
"Feet turned in backward" is a common story told about the wildmen generally worldwide.


Curupira
The myths of many lands including Peru describe the creatures as like satyrs in their lustful habits
curupi
The name alternatively  is supposed to mean "Wooly Leg"


mohan


Mohan_pijao


pombero

 
Pombero (Dwendi Version, Poss=Mono  Grande?)
Maricoxi meet Fawcett


The Caa Pora of Gustavo Desimone   Obviously intended to represent the orangutan sort of Mapinguary (Mono Rey). The eyes on stalks are the artist's personal  embellishment, since the  creature otherwise does not seem to have a regular head     


Alternative classification scheme. The big one in back should be more human-like and is the same as the 'Patagonian Giants'

 


Uruyali

Saturday, 16 July 2011

Patagonian Monsters and Manlike Apes








Whittall notes in the "Caveman" link below that this petroglyph seems to be depicting something distinctly shorter and stouter than the regular human stick figures surrounding it. By selecting it out and mirroring the arm to the other side, we come to something remarkably like the Chimu gold Siamang-like figure illustrated in my early posting about Precolumbian evidence for the Ameranthropoides (link below)
IMHO, this represents a large form of lesser ape much like a siamang, probably a male with its fur standing on end (piloerection) Given that the little circle could represent the muzzle, we can even hazard a reconstruction of the face. This would be a forerunner to the creatures still being reported in Northern Argentina as "Negroes-of-the-Water" (black things that go in the water-which are also reported in the trees, BTW)







Whitall also compares some of the reported Patagonian dwarf creatures to an Orangutan, listed in the links under "Chelep." While I also think there is a creature in South America that is much like an orangutan (hence both Mono Grand and Mono Rey as separated cryptids), I don't think the Chelep are an example. There is a strong possibility in my mind that the stumpy-ended legs and pointed head of the Traucos derive from reports of the Mapinguari further north, but in that case I think it is the stories that have travelled and not the creatures.







Yosi (Yoshi) would seem to be another transcription of the Mono Grand to the South of Patagonia, but on the other hand it is more obvious that Yosi is the same thing as Yasti as described in other places (this is another independant development of the "Trolldoll" representation or perhaps like the Orang Pendek) The problem with the representation is obviously in the preconceived notions of the artists making the pictures.






A "Wild Man of the Woods" compared to a reconstruction of a "Pithecanthropus"
During the Age of Discovery the distinction between Anthropoid apes and stories of "Wildmen" were obscured. Hence this representation of what was meant to be an orangutan came out as a more traditional depiction of a Wildman, and the leter reconstruction of the Homo erectus ("Pithecanthropus") once the same again. Comparing both with Yosi above, it is possible to pick out many similarities and perhaps the Patagonian Dwarfs are meant to depict small Homo erectus (or Solo?)types.


http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/06/chelep-hairy-patagonian-dwarf.html#chelep

http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2011/01/patagonian-cave-man-homo-erectus.html

http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2011/01/patagonian-yeti-fact-and-fiction.html







[Internet illustration depicting a "Patagonian Yeti" but originally intended to show a North American "Eastern Bigfoot"]










Relevant earlier postings on this blog:

http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/02/why-mono-grande-and-mono-rey-are.html



http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/02/ameranthropoides-loysi-1-background.html

http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/02/ameranthropoides-2-photo-demonstration.html

http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/02/ameranthropoides-3-precolumbian.html

http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/05/another-ameranthropoides.html

Thursday, 24 February 2011

Why Mono Grande and Mono Rey Are Different

[Mono Grande From Internet Art Site]
There is some confusion as to exactly how many large unknown primates there are in South America, going by the information as given in standard cryptozoological sources. Two of the reported forms are Mono Grande (Big Monkey) commonly reported in Colombia, Venezuela, north-western Brazil and then the Eastern jungles of Ecuador and Peru; and then again Mono Rey (King Monkey) as reported in the border area of Peru and Bolivia, the Bolivian Lowlands, and then on towards the Mato Grosso in Brazil.

Mono Grannde from Karl Shuker's blog. He does nt see the obvious similartity to DeLoy's photograph. This is a
 pretty good drawing and it is similar to other witness' drawings that I have seen before from the same area (Venezuela)
 The muzzle is shown too small here, in contrast to the other photo, and it is probably not drawn big enough here.
I would suggest the other drawing represents a male and this one a female.




[Mono Rey As Depicted in Peruvian Spanish-Language Newspaper]

The idea generally seems to be that the Mono Grande [=?Sylvestre or "Forest-Dweller"=Sacharuna] is a smaller, more lightly built ape and it is frequently compared to the photo of DeLoy's Ape. It might weigh 100 to 150 pounds.

On the other Hand, the Mono Rey is a larger, more heavily-built ape with a weight estimated as over 200 pounds, minimum. Both types are mentioned in Harold Wilkins's book Secret Cities of Old South America, going on older traditions and old Spanish manuscripts. In the case of the Mono Rey, Wilkins calls it "King Kong" and equates it with the Sisimite in Mesoamerica and the Mapinguari in Mato Grosso. In the more recent book, Monster of the Madidi, it is described as looking like a large red howler monkey without a tail.










[Mono Rey as depicted by same Artist, Same Internet Art site in Spanish Language]




[The fact that Wilkins refers to it as "King Kong" is a clue as to why it is called the "King Monkey"]

 


[Mono Rey Mockup, Based on Description in Monster of the Madidi And Matching Some Descriptions of the Mapinguari or Capelobo]








 
 
 
Another version of the reconstruction from "The Morelock" on Deviant Art
 (Removing the tail which is specifically stated NOT to be there)
 This one is good in that is shows the implied throat pouches which helps it make loud calls
 








mapinguary-mozna-podoba-c599eka-catrimani-brazc3adlie
SOURCE

Other Sources:
 
[Harold T Wilkins, Secret Cities of Old South America, 1952, reprinted by Adventures Unlimited Press, Kempton, Illinois.

Sacharunas-315-316

"King Kong"- 317-319, 301-304, latter as "Mapinguari" that tore tongues out of cattle]

[Simon Chapman, The Monster of the Madidi: Searching for the Giant Ape of the Bolivian Jungle, 2001, Arum Press.

Found contradictory references to bears as "Ucu", confusing the matter, but still some core of unexplained descriptions remained. The "Unexplained" ones are as depicted here]