Administrative Notice about Abominables

In future all information pertaining to living examples of fossil humans, Almas of Asia and the American counterpart,is to be sent to the Frontiers of Anthropology blog. If there is any new information on uncaught anthropoid apes, Yetis, Yeren, Yowies or Skunk apes (NAPEs), it shall be treated as any other news item, but I don't see any particular value in going over the older information again. Any information on fossil Gigantopithecus or possible survival of Gigantopithecus is to be given a higher priority, but once again we intend to focus on new material and news items on this blog.

                   Orangutan and Orang Pendek. Orang Pendek is considered identical to the smaller kind
                   of Yeti and Yeren, and a kind of Australian Yowie: similar creatures are also reported in
                   both North and South America. This information is still in exact accordance with Ivan T.
                   Sanderson's remarks on the subject made in 1961

Australian Ape Project: Hand and Knuckle Report

http://theaustralianapeproject.blogspot.com/2014/01/hand-and-knuckle-print-report-2014.html

Disclaimer: This is the official Australian Ape page. We do not comment on the research of others without collaboration, this is purely an official vehicle for us to publish our work that we undertake Our work costs money, so please, bear with the ads on the blog pages. If at anytime you would like more information on our work or would like to assist via donation of money, equipment or expertise please contact us at theaustralianapeproject@hotmail.com

--Which I think is good clear evidence that a large ground-dwelling great ape can be found wandering on the loose in Australia. It is omnivorous, frequently quadrupedal, and its closest affinities are with the known orangutans.-- DD

Eastern Bigfoot, New Demonstrations

A facebook Friend of mine sent me photos of a variety of casts he hasd made in the Midwestern part of the US (mostly in Ohio I think. I selected two that I thought were exceptionally representative of the "Ape" (Swamp Ape/Wood Ape) and more humanlike (Actually Neanderthaloid) tracks out of the dozen or more examples that were on display. Both kinds are called Skunk Apes in Florida and Brush Apes (etc) in Texas. I also added drawings of the equivalent foot bottoms for an actual ape and a human being, from a textbook illustration that went on display on this blog a while back. I hoped to get a better impression of the "Long and thin" types of ape footprint which more closely resembles an orangutan's foot.

Here is a selection of the Unknown apes from around the Pacific rim All of them seem to be just variations on the orangutan and derived from the ground-dwelling "Fossil Pongo" that inhabited China about the same time as Gigantopithecus. The fate of their classification in general depends on decisions regarding some of the samples that we already have. If the Yeti DNA samples, Orang Pendek hair samples, Yeren samples and even the "Fossil Pongo" are all classified in the same species as the commoner orangutans, we will not have a Cryptozoological situation, we will only have an expanded range for a known species. At present tis is a quandary.
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Neanderthal as Wildman from "Yowie Hunter"

 Our other problem is that the "Hairy Cavemen" such as the Neanderthals turn out have interbred with us and so they were the same species as the rest of us. Furthermore at some point in the development of our species, the hairless tropical mutant form at some point broke out into the territory of the more cold-adapted Northern forms of our species and predominated over them. The situation follows this  mock-up:

  And presumably this is the end result of the "out of Africa"movement.

But that means that the hairy wildmen that persist in pockets of wilderness worldwide (and which includes both pygmy, normal-sized, and giant variations) Is only another kind of people. That was my conclusion made decades ago and Im sticking to it. The problem is that these "Hairy Primitives" (as Ivan Sanderson called them) are also not Cryptozoological subjects they are a known species
(Below is what could be called a cosplay for "Old Yellow-top, a Canadian example of the more manlike Eastern Bigfoot.)

The Tote-Up

http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010/08/dale-drinnon-mystery-primates-tote-up.html
Coleman et al, in The Field Guide to Bigfoot... also gives nine categories, thus:
1. Neo-Giants, (=)
2.* True Giants (Gigantopithecus),

3.x  Marked Hominid, (=)
4.x  Neandertaloid, (=)
5.x  Erectus Hominid, (=)
6.x Proto-pygmy,

7.x*  Unknown Pongid,
8.x * Giant Monkey,
9. Merbeing,

-out of which I discount as separate categories the true giants, marked hominids, Neandertaloids, erectus hominids and proto-pygmys, and the last four of these on the grounds that they are not only probably variants of one species, but that species is most likely not separable from Homo sapiens. I retain the categories neo-giants, unknown pongid, giant monkeys and allow the mer-beings but also keep that category as a questionable status. [There is a good chance that many if not most sightings in the Unknown Pongid and Giant Monkey categories are of animals in known species and the categories are also invalid for that reason]

In this case, the categories unknown pongid, giant monkey and merfolk are NOT unified categories representing a single cryptid as a single species per category. The categories are thus also invalid as formulated. However, in each of those categories I have also eliminated some candidates such that the unknown pongids of Africa are removed from unknown status - they are very likely displaced or unusual chimpanzees and gorillas. The remaining Asiatic and American pongids are all mostly like orangutans and do form a recognisable sequence, although they may not belong to the same species ... By the same token, ALL of the giant monkeys are very likely merely outsized monkeys of known species, except for the South American Isnachi. It should be noted that it was a major error to make one category for both Old World and New World monkeys in the same group.

ADDITIONAL:
My Friend Jeffrey Patterson on Facebook has a collection of some pretty recognizable faces found in so-called "Blobsquatch" videos. One of the recent ones he has sent to me has that distinctive "Caveman" look: it is an Ohio "Grassman"

 

 

I told him that one was clear enough I could probably recognize him if I should see him again.

And another one from a 2008 video posted on YouTube is a clear profile of a young ape:

 

And I am very nearly 100% certain both of these are exactly what they seem to be at first glance. They are the more humanlike and more apelike versions of the Eastern Bigfoot, Swamp Ape, Skunk Ape or Wood ape. And typical of both categories over much of Asia, Australia, North America and South America. And neither of them are really at all mysterious when you come right down to it.

Chinese Wildman from Big Trouble In Little China

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BIG-TROUBLE-LITTLE-CHINA-CHINESE-WILD-MAN-Figure-N2-Mirage-N2toys-2002-RARE-/290871470288
This item went up for sale in Ebay recently, a model for the Chinese Wildman as it appearews in the movie Big Trouble in Little China. Although it is sensatonalised and the nails are much longer than they would probably grow in the wild, it's pretty easy to make out that the original creature would have been a sort of orangutan. Although most of the things in the movie were presented in outlandish fashion, this does represent an authentic Chinese tradition.

Below is the relevant section of George Eberhart's Mysterious creatures although the entries on Ren-Xiong, Yeti and Yeren probably overlap with it. At least one Chinese man who was on an expedition to track down the Himalayan Yeti in the 1950s referred to it as a "Xing-Xing"

 

Here are some other relevant entries, all apparently describing the same os a similar species

 (Again, without including ant reference to the better-known Yeti and Yeren)

 

 [The entry includes a misleading error: "Beruang" is a common name for the sun bear. "Beruang Rambai" is a recognised name for a male orangutan. This would probably be the equivalent to the "Orang Gadang" on Sumatra, although that is a confusing and disputed form.]

[For "Baboon", read "Stump-tailed Macaque"]

 

Why are the 'Three Wise Monkeys' Usually APES?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Wise_Monkeys

The three wise monkeys (Japanese: 三猿, san'en or sanzaru, or 三匹の猿, sanbiki no saru, literally "three monkeys"), sometimes called the three mystic apes,^[1] are a pictorial maxim. Together they embody the proverbial principle to "see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil".^[2] The three monkeys are Mizaru, covering his eyes, who sees no evil; Kikazaru, covering his ears, who hears no evil; and Iwazaru, covering his mouth, who speaks no evil. Sometimes there is a fourth monkey depicted with the three others; the last one, Shizaru, symbolizes the principle of "do no evil". He may be shown crossing his arms.
There are various meanings ascribed to the monkeys and the proverb including associations with being of good mind, speech and action. In the Western world the phrase is often used to refer to those who deal with impropriety by turning a blind eye.^[3]
In English, the monkeys' names are often given as Mizaru,^[4] Mikazaru,^[5] and Mazaru,^[6] but the last two names were corrupted from the Japanese originals.^[7][8]
 ...
In Chinese, a similar phrase exists in the Analects of Confucius from 2nd to 4th century B.C.: "Look not at what is contrary to propriety; listen not to what is contrary to propriety; speak not what is contrary to propriety; make no movement which is contrary to propriety" (非禮勿視, 非禮勿聽, 非禮勿言, 非禮勿動).^[9] It may be that this phrase was shortened and simplified after it was brought into Japan.
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Though the teaching had nothing to do with monkeys, the concept of the three monkeys originated from a simple play on words. The saying in Japanese is "mizaru, kikazaru, iwazaru" (見ざる, 聞かざる, 言わざる, literally "don't see, don't hear, don't speak". However, -zaru, an archaic negative verb conjugation, is pronounced the same as zaru, the vocalized form of saru (猿^?), "monkey", so the saying can also be interpreted as the names of three monkeys.
It is also possible that the three monkeys came from a more central root than a play on words.^{[contradiction]} The shrine at Nikko is a Shinto shrine, and the monkey is an extremely important being in the Shinto religion.^{[citation needed]} The monkey is believed to be the messenger of the Hie Shinto shrines, which also have connections with Tendai Buddhism. There are even important festivals that are celebrated during the year of the Monkey (occurring every twelve years) and a special festival is celebrated every sixteenth year of the Kōshin.
"The Three Mystic Apes" (Sambiki Saru) were described as "the attendants of Saruta Hito no Mikoto or Kōshin, the God of the Roads".^[10] The Kōshin festival was held on the 60th day of the calendar. It has been suggested that during the Kōshin festival, according to old beliefs, one’s bad deeds might be reported to heaven "unless avoidance actions were taken…." It has been theorized that the three Mystic Apes, Not Seeing, Hearing, or Speaking, may have been the "things that one has done wrong in the last 59 days."
According to other accounts, the monkeys caused the Sanshi and Ten-Tei not to see, say or hear the bad deeds of a person. The Sanshi (三尸^?) are three worms living in everyone's body. The Sanshi keep track of the good deeds and particularly the bad deeds of the person they inhabit. Every 60 days, on the night called Kōshin-Machi (庚申待^?), if the person sleeps, the Sanshi will leave the body and go to Ten-Tei (天帝^?), the Heavenly God, to report about the deeds of that person. Ten-Tei will then decide to punish bad people, making them ill, shortening their time alive, and in extreme cases putting an end to their lives. Those believers of Kōshin who have reason to fear will try to stay awake during Kōshin nights. This is the only way to prevent the Sanshi from leaving their body and reporting to Ten-Tei.
An ancient representation of the 'no see, no hear, no say, no do' can be found in four golden figurines in the Zelnik Istvan Southeast Asian Gold Museum. These golden statues date from the 6th to 8th century. The figures look like tribal human people with not very precise body carvings and strong phallic symbols.^[11] This set indicates that the philosophy comes from very ancient roots.

References

• Titelman, Gregory Y. (2000). Random House Dictionary of America's Popular Proverbs and Sayings (Second Edition ed.). New York: Random House. ISBN 0-375-70584-8.
• Archer Taylor, “Audi, Vidi, Tace” and the three monkeys
• A. W. Smith, Folklore, Vol. 104, No. ½ pp 144–150 ‘On the Ambiguity of the Three Wise Monkeys’

 External links

• Collector's picture gallery
• Information compiled by collectors
• Monkey(saru)-Kōshin on onmarkproductions.com
• More Information compiled by Collectors

At first the representations of the three monkeys were clearly recognisable Japanese macaques ("Snow monkeys") and this included the clear representation of their stumpy tails.

However, that is not the way they are most commonly known. They are most commonly represented as small APES often resembling chimpanzees but usually more ambiguously suggesting the features of both chiomps and orangutans.

 

Since there are still reports of smallish apelike creatures on Japan under the common term "Hibagon" and we have seen reporesentations of them before on this blog, it seems more likely that the common representation of the three wise monkeys actually ARE representations of three wise apes, the Japanese native apes that seem to be related to the Smaller kind of Chinese Yeren and thence to the fossil Orangutans known to have existed in China

Illustration of the Chinese Yeren as an orangutan-like creature

 as done by R. W. Benjamin on the Unknown Creatures site

Xing-Xing or similar ape, wood carving from Taiwan,

the term Xing-Xing (Shing-Shing) is in general casual use in the Orient.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sh%C5%8Dj%C5%8D

 

 

Sculpture of an obvious orangutan located at Hong Kong

 

Small "See No Evil (etc) figurines like these come from the Burmese/Thailand border country and they are referred to under the name of the local Yeti equivalent, the Tok. The bare remnants of a "Monkey" face can be made out in the gilded example below.

"King Louis" from the Disney version of The Jungle Book, a representation of the Olu-Bandar under the title "King of the Monkeys". The character was introduced by Bill Peet while he was working on the script and nobody seems to know where he came by this information: there is such a creature alleged in the Assam and Heuvelmans refers it to the "Mainland Orangutan" category. There was not such a creature mentioned in Kipling's original Jungle Book with Mowgli.

Two small votive orangutan figurines in brass from Tibet, listed for sale on Ebay.

One of the Yeti stamps from Bhutan that bears a distinct resemblance to a male (Sumatan) Orangutan. Similar orangutan like creatures are depicted in midieval Persian miniature paintings.

Above are the two types of stamp-Yetis done to the same scale. Yes, the bigger one has a tail attributed to it, but that part is never actually reported on live individuals that are supposedly sighted. Below are two depictions of the two types pasted together at the same scale.


Following is the article on Chinese Yerens from George Eberhart's Mysterious Creatures (2002) Although there are different kinds of creatures called by the same names Yeti and Yeren, Bernard Heuvelmans counts the two as equivalent and related concept and indeed the main types (discounting the local Wild Men) are the larger and smaller kinds just indicated above. The same types also continue on Southward. The general range in heights as being 4 to 10 feet tall holds for both places (discounting the even larger sizes) and I draw attention to the statement "Color varies from black in Yunnan provence to white in Tibet and reddish-brown in Hubei Provence"--That's right people, the big Yetis in Tibet ARE said to be white! {actually they are usually shades of gry or "Grizzly" and white commonly. This is the Gigantopithecus type that would be the same as the North American Sasquatch). And the smaller reddish-brown one in Nepal is the one the press has taken to calling "the Yeti": it is most likely a kind of orangutan derived from the Chinese "fossil Pongo" of the Pleistocee.