Nessie, Champ, Caddy and Waterfowl

Posted earlier at The Zombie Plesiosaur Society on Facebook:

Dale Drinnon:


Loch Ness Monster. Longnecks are stated to take waterfowl at the surface in many locations and this could pad out the food supply that we need to consider as support for the theoretical number limit for the monster population in such areas





Gina Jones:
 Yes it is stated in both Champ and Nessie for sure






Dale Drinnon
And for Caddy at sea





William Robert Hancock
Quite possible. BTW......bad to the bone painting!!!!!!







Scott Mardis
http://www.njan.org/files/Champ%20Eats%20Seagull%20July%202004.pdf



Scott Mardis Plesiosaurs eating birds- the smoking gun.
http://saurian.blogspot.com/2012/11/svp-2012-some-tasty-morsels.html

Saurian: SVP 2012 - Some Tasty Morsels saurian.blogspot.com "Richardoestesia is an enigmatic theropod taxon of uncertain phylogenetic affini...





Dale Drinnon
Yes we already had fossils of Plesiosaur stomach contents that included pterosaur remains among other things



Scott Mardis
I have that paper somewhere.

For Champ:

Posted by Jay BizarreZoo C For Caddy, at Sea: Posted by Jay BizarreZoo C

Mask associated with sasquatch lore returned to B.C. First Nation

Mask associated with Sasquatch lore returned to B.C. First Nation

The Canadian Press
May 14, 2014 02:48 PM

 

A Sasq'ets mask, commonly know as sasquatch, is seen in this undated handout photo. Bigfoot sightings may be elusive, but a sasquatch mask missing for 75 years was easily found after a simple request from a British Columbia First Nation. THE CANADIAN PRESS/ HO, Museum of Vancouver

   

VANCOUVER - Hunting for an elusive sasquatch mask revered by a British Columbia First Nation has been a 16-year journey for James Leon, taking him through London, Boston, New York and Ottawa.
In the end, all it took was a question to the lady sitting next to him at a Vancouver event that led him to his nation's Sasq'ets mask that vanished 75 years ago.
Leon was at a repatriation event for another First Nations artifact held by the Vancouver Museum when he asked the lady sitting beside him if she knew of the ape-like mask partially covered in bear fur.
"Her eyes lit up and she said 'We were just looking at that mask the other day.' And they were gracious enough to go get it for me," he said with a chuckle.
The mask disappeared in 1939 from Sts'ailes First Nation, near Harrison Hot Springs in B.C.'s Fraser Valley.
Community elders told Leon that the mask had been taken by J.W. Burns, a teacher at the Chehalis Indian Day School, and a man obsessed with the sasquatch legend.
Burns, who is often credited for bringing the word "sasquatch" into common use, donated the mask to the Vancouver Museum.
Leon took the job of finding the mask seriously and learned it had been on travelling display. He searched through the archives of several museum's known for having artifacts from British Columbia.
While all those elders are gone, he said they'd be pleased the mask has been returned.
"We do burning for the sasquatch. It's our belief that his primary role is to ensure that the land is being taken care of. Because everyone of us, as Sts'ailes people, we carry an ancestral name, a rich name from the land."
Museum of Vancouver CEO Nancy Noble said musuems have a social and cultural obligation to consider repatriating certain objects from their collections to First Nations.
"For aboriginal peoples, the return of an object with significant cultural or spiritual value can help to rebuild awareness, educate youth and strengthen ties to a culture that was often suppressed or taken away," Nobel said in a news release.
The mask was carved by Ambrose Point based on stories "from the beginning of time."
While the more recent stories of bigfoot are enough to produce nightmares, Leon said his people consider spotting a sasquatch good luck.
"There are certain things that happened to us when we see one," he said. "They call it gifts that come with seeing one, like I'd be a good speaker or a good hunter."
There's an even better endowment — a golden gift — if the sasquatch sees you, he explained.
Leon said his closest encounter to a real sasquatch came many years ago when he was walking with his then-wife.
"She kind of pushed me aside, so I didn't see it because I wasn't ready for the gift that comes with it."
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Garry Liimatta sighting off Vancouver Island, 1969

Scott Mardis sent me the details on this sighting and I reproduce his documents below: 

My opinion is that Liimata saw an elephant seal but esrtimated its size as too large, perhaps twice as large as it really was. This is a common mistake in sightings of unknown animals and especially at sea where size and distance can be difficult to judge. The head and hind flippers of the creature, and especially its slim and seal-like body, remind me of other osightings which turned out to be elephant seals on other occasions. Certainly this possibilitity is much better than the possibility the witness saw a much smaller leatherback turtle and made more of an exaggeration of the size, especially since the body was not turtle like in shape but more seal-shaped instead and the overhanging snout of an elephant seal has been interpreted as being like a hooked turtle's beak on other occasions: one of Heuvelmans' "Father of All the Turtles" sightings in Southern waters was very likely an elephant seal. Halving the dimensions gives the creature a four foot neck and a breadth of a yard, both of which are very reasonable estimates for an elephant seal.

 

Ogopogo

OGOPOGO.
Michelle and Gilles Beliveau from Westbank took this photo of a form just below the water on Sept. 7/06 south of the Kelowna Mission area on the east side of Okanagan Lake. The photo was taken from their boat at 2:30pm. They estimated the object was about 25 feet long and approx 50 feet from the boat

 

Post by Lake Monsters.

 

Ogopogo.Ken Chaplin film.Monster or beaver?.

It looks like a beaver.Witnesses said it had no fur at all,and that it was the same size of a large car.

[ I would assume the creature seen under the surface at top is a giant white sturgeon (Beluga) and the one at bottom is a giant beaver (Castoriodes)-DD]

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/other-shows/videos/prehistoric-new-york-giant-beaver.htm

Monster White Sturgeon Caught, Yahoo News Story

http://www.grindtv.com/outdoor/blog/34277/monster+white+sturgeon+weighing+1100+pounds+caught+in+canada/

Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:19pm PDT

Monster white sturgeon weighing 1,100 pounds caught in Canada

By: David Strege

A monster white sturgeon weighing an estimated 1,100 pounds and measuring 12 feet, 4 inches was caught and released on the Fraser River, a British Columbia waterway famous for its big sturgeon...just not this big.

Angler Michael Snell, front, with wife Margaret and guide Dean Werk pose with the mammoth sturgeon.

Catches of white sturgeon averaging 30 to 100 pounds are typical on the Fraser, even an occasional 250-pounder, but nothing as massive as this sturgeon, believed to be the biggest freshwater fish ever caught on rod and reel in North America...and possibly the oldest.

"I've been a professional guide on the Fraser for 25 years and I've never seen a sturgeon this big," said Dean Werk, owner/guide of Great River Fishing Adventures.

"We have helped to collectively tag more than 47,000 white sturgeon since 1995, and scanned in excess of 90,000 tagged sturgeon that have been caught and released. This tells us this dinosaur fish hasn't been caught in at least 18 years if ever at all. I'd bet she's over 100 years old."

Think about that: Incredibly, this massive sturgeon, a prehistoric species, might have been hatched the year the Titanic sank.

It could also be 35 years older than the angler, Michael Snell, 65, of Salisbury, England. Snell, who was fishing with his wife, Margaret, called the catch a fish of a lifetime.

"It is the most excitement I've ever had with a fish," said Snell, who took 1 1/2 hours to eventually land the fish along the shoreline. "It all happened so quickly. When we picked her head up out of the water, it was almost three-feet wide. I never knew a fish could be that large."

By comparison, the world-record swordfish is 1,182 pounds. The world record for a white sturgeon? It is 468 pounds taken in Benicia, Calif., according to the 2012 International Game Fish Association book of World Record Game Fishes.

Since Great River Fishing Adventures, like many others on the river, are into conservation and preserving these incredible creatures, the fish was released alive, so weighing it was impossible.

The estimated weight was based on charts created by the Fraser River Conservation Society using girth and length measurements. A similar chart for marlin gave the same estimate.

Alas, this behemoth, with a girth of 53 inches, won't ever become an official world record since IGFA requires a record fish to be weighed on a certified scale.

Nevertheless, it'll be quite a memory for Snell. What did he and the wife do for an encore? They caught two more sturgeon, including a 100-pounder.

Werk (right) and his fellow guide couldn't resist posing with the biggest sturgeon they've ever seen. Photos courtesy of Great River Fishing Adventures.

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I reprinted this because 1) Giant sturgeon are always a topic of interest here, so would giant catfish be, whether or not they are of a known species, and 2) the given size is not the record for this species of fish in North America, it is perhaps half of the record. But records of the largest fishes are frequently sbject to questioning and revising.

Best Wishes, Dale D.