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Showing posts with label Unknown Pinnipeds. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Unknown Pinnipeds. Show all posts

Monday, 3 March 2014

Thalassoleon=Megalotaria?

Darren Naish recently posted on this form and the message elicited a response from Jay Cooney that this could be the fossil form of Heuvelmans' "Megalotaria" (he expressed displeasure in bringing the subject up) I agreed that if ever a fossil species deserved that name, then Thalassoleon macnallyae at the size of a walrus would deserve that name.

Thalassoleon



Thalassoleon is an extinct genus of large fur sealThalassoleon inhabited the Northern Pacific ocean in latest Miocene and early Pliocene time. Fossils of T. mexicanus are known from Baja California and southern California. T. macnallyae is known from central California, and T. inouei (which may be a synonym of T. macnallyae) is known from Japan.Thalassoleon could be the ancestor of the modern Northern Fur Seal.

T. mexicanus was comparible in size to the largest fur seals, with an estimated weight of 650-700 lbs.[1] T. macnallyae, based on size of the mandible, may have grown much larger, similar in size to a walrus.

References

  1. Jump up^ Geological Survey professional paper, Volume 992 By Geological Survey (U.S.)
https://www.sdnhm.org/archive/research/paleontology/DemereBerta-lrThal-05.pdf

Incidentally the female was 50% the size of the male which is close to modern fur seals. Fossils are found in the North Pacific, from Baja California to Mexico.

FossilWorks gives this data on the largest species:
http://fossilworks.org/cgi-bin/bridge.pl?a=taxonInfo&taxon_no=72014


Thalassoleon macnallyae Repenning and Tedford 1977 (eared seal)
Full reference: C. A. Repenning and R. H. Tedford. 1977. Otarioid seals of the Neogene. Geological Survey Professional Paper 992:1-93
Belongs to Thalassoleon according to T. A. Demere and A. Berta 2005
Type specimen: UCMP 112809, a partial skull. Its type locality is Drakes Beach, which is in a Messinian marine sandstone in the Drakes Bay Formation of California.
Ecology: amphibious piscivore
Age range: 7.246 to 5.332 Ma
Distribution: found only at Drakes Beach

And this on the more usual-sized species:
http://fossilworks.org/cgi-bin/bridge.pl?a=taxonInfo&taxon_no=72013


Thalassoleon mexicanus Repenning and Tedford 1977 (eared seal)
Full reference: C. A. Repenning and R. H. Tedford. 1977. Otarioid seals of the Neogene. Geological Survey Professional Paper 992:1-93
Belongs to Thalassoleon according to T. A. Demere and A. Berta 2005
Type specimen: IGCU 902, a skull
Ecology: amphibious piscivore
Environments: coastal (all collections)
Age range: 7.246 to 3.6 Ma
Distribution:
• Pliocene of Japan (1 collection), United States (1: California)
• Miocene of Mexico (1), United States (1: California)
Total: 4 collections each including a single occurrence


"thalassoleon_by_hodarinundu-d4pu5g8" above, a probably not very accurate reconstruction from Deviant Art.   "Thalassoleon_mexicanusingame1"  below


Admittedly the fossils are very sparse and there is only one specimen for the larger species. However it is just possible that the larger species (or one derived from it) could have survived the ice age, be alive today as the "Megotaria" (in sealion form, as we have construed it) and might have worked its way around to including also a North Atlantic population. So at this point I would like to declare that the best possibility we have suggested so far is that "Megalotaria" is only the continuing survival of the large species of Thalassoleon. That assumption could easily prove wrong for any number of reasons. But it is still the best suggestion that we have to go on at the present time.

Monday, 9 September 2013

Followup to "Megalotaria Longicollis"

I made up some more illustrations for Megalotaria after I had published the last blog entry
  I have settled on the idea that the female had something like the common seal colouration, being a greyish brown with scattered darker spots, and the male was more of a reddish brown with muted streaks of other lighter colours showing in the fur" the male has longer and coarser hair overall, but it seems the female also has a hairier neck. The mane in these animals is indicated to be lionlike, or generally all around the neck like a ruff, rather than horselike with just the stripe down the spine.
 
BTW this was another recent posting where I was attempting to make an earlier reconstruction of the type. I did have about the same body plan for the males and females, assuming the 1918 Hoy SS was female and the male should have a much thicker neck..
   http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2013/07/early-merhorse-art-by-thomas-finley-and.html
Here are two comparisons of the Hoy SS with a typical "Loch Ness Monster" Longneck, the one above with average size overall (Typical estimated adult females) and below is matching up the proportions going by the maximum width (And not going by comparative size). The Hoy SS's neck still comes out as being about half the length of the Longneck's neck by proportion.
 
And here is our reference chart to the other pinnipeds.The  Hoy SS type (Megalotaria) is about the bulk of a walrus, maximum sizeabout as much as an elephant seal, whereas the Longneck's body is about the same size as the elephant seal's but adding an elongated neck and tail onto that base.