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Thursday, 1 March 2012

"Frogfoot" in the Midwest

http://kentuckycryptids.blogspot.com/2010/10/lizard-man.html
[This was a matter that was going on over a large portion of the Midwest generally at the time and over the next couple of decades, only the national press was not aware of the fact and witnesses in the different states were not aware there were other witnesses in other states that were reporting the same thing. I was one of the ones personally involved in investigations at the time. At the time I remember distinctly that Reptoids were not spoken of in the UFO or Fortean communities and I was about the only one I knew of that even talked about such things as Reptoids in the mid-1970s.-DD]

The Lizard Man

Stephensport, Breckenridge County
In the early fall of 1966, Joe, a 9 year old boy at the time, woke up to a loud thrashing noise outside of his bedroom window at approximately 1:00am. He went to his window to peak outside, but there was nothing in view. Naturally, Joe went to his living room to investigate the sound that continued to bang against his house. When he came to the living room, he pulled back the curtains of the front door window – to his surprise, he was staring at a 5’6” to 6’ tall man of amphibious characteristics, with dark brown scales covering its entire body. The creature had webbed feet and hands, and little dark eyes. Joe recollects that the brief moment he seen the creature’s face, it appeared to have “hard,” huge rows of gills that flared out on both sides of its face, resembling that of a lizard. Joe doesn’t remember the creature having a nose, lips, muscles, or genitals, but there was a ridge-like feature starting from its forehead and running back over the top of its head.
After the brief moment Joe peered at the creature through the window, it quickly ran for the creek next to Joe’s house. Joe, yet shocked, ran to an adjacent window to catch a glimpse of it as it ran away on two legs towards a creek about 75 yards from his house.
Charlie Raymond (Investigator) and Barton Nunnelly (Sketch artist) provided a follow-up investigation of Joe’s sighting of the Lizard Man in 2006 (making Joe 49 years old at the time.) It was noted that Joe is also married, with two children in college. Joe continually stressed to Raymond and Nunnelly that the creature was “amphibious looking,” although it ran/stood on two feet. He stated that there would be no way someone would have dressed up in a costume like that considering to this day he couldn’t imagine someone owning such a life-like costume, especially 40 years ago in Breckenridge County.
Later sightings of the Lizard Man in Kentucky grew during the 70s (but have died out since) in Louisville – which makes sense, considering Louisville and Breckenridge County are close in region...
Unfortunately, these stories are the latest sightings of the Lizard Man in Kentucky. There haven’t been (to my knowledge) any sightings during the 21st century. [That could be because reports generally have a latency period before they are "Discovered" and circulated-DD]
Sources: Kentucky Bigfoot

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread111225/pg1

The River Demon:

The Shawnee Indians inhabited the area surrounding what is now known as the Little Miami River. There tribe had a legend about The Shawnahooc which, roughly translated means The River Demon. As the legend goes a small group of Shawnee Indians on a hunt stumbled upon a fairly large reptilian on the banks of the river. The Indians attempted move in closer. However, upon doing so, the creature took notice of them, stood up on its hind legs, and retreated back into the river. The Shawnee people became extremely frightened upon hearing this. Believing that this creature was a demon they sent their greatest warriors to vanquish the demon or drive it from the river. The Shawnee Indians never again caught site of the creature and, according to their myths, it is believed that after seeing the warriors approach it fled.

Mamnegishi:

The Cree Indians of Eastern Canada told myths about creatures referred to as Mamnegishi. In their myths they describe the Mamnegishi as small bipedal creatures having: six fingers on each hand, a disproportionately large head, no nose, elongated limbs, no hair, and large eyes. The Cree Indians described the Mamnegishi as Mischievous creatures that took great pleasure in playing tricks on humans. The Cree Indians tell that the Mamnegishi would paint Pictographs on the Rock’s near the Rapids where they were said to have lived.

The Inzignanin:

The Indians of South Carolina that inhabited the Chicora- an area told legends of The Inzignanin, fish like humanoids that were five feet in height, covered in scales, and had fairly inflexible tails approximately 18 inches long. These Fish-men were believed to consume only raw fish and are said to have died out when the areas fish population depleted.
Wayne, New Jersey:

In November of the year 1974 a motorist on his way to White Meadow Lake in Wayne New Jersey reported seeing a large green humanoid with large"frog-like" eyes and a wide lipless mouth cross the road in front of his vehicle.

(Reptilian's) ET Alien's Are Real And True. Video
The "Frogfoot" creature as reported in Illinois, Indiana and Ohio in the 1970s especially. The creatures were not usually seen, but they commonly left big tracks like a frogman's flippers in the beds of creeks and rivers, and on sandbars, typically emerging from and going back into the water. I investigated such a trackway together with my two younger brothers in the White River (Indiana) but my youngest brother was later known to pull "Bigfoot" hoaxes and so I considered the matter as most likely a hoax or at least highly suispicious.
This is a diiagram showing how the usual carnivorous dinosaurs walked up on their toes but some of them could walk flat-footed. The flat-footed version is very close to the reported Reptoid tracks worldwide.

Three-Toed "Swamp Monster" footprint. A great many "Three-toed" tracks were hoaxed by using an alligator's foot strapped under the soles of each of yor boots, but Alligators have an extra toe off to the side which shows up and gives it all away.

Three-toed "Reptoid" track intact in clayey matrix. Such tracks are generally between one foot and two feet long, and most of them are not really all that large when compared to Bigfoot tracks. The bulk of such tracks in the USA are CALLED Bigfoot, however.

A series of scaly three-toed footprint casts from Alabama


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Ohio Creature Footprints

by on Jan.26, 2011, under What's Really Going On

9" to 10" footprints with three claws. Note the apparent blood droplets at top left. Click images to see full size.
“I am not used to seeing the kind of tracks in my back yard like the samples I’m attaching here. Any ideas? Looks BIG. Gulp.”
So read the email I received last week from my close friend S. with 4 photos attached (the one above was also a Coast to Coast AM Photo of the Day on 1/27/11). He lives in Franklin County, Ohio near Columbus, works in a highly visible profession and is too shy to post these images himself — but he’s also alarmed by the footprints he and his wife found in their back yard last week after the last big snowfall. Knowing of my keen interest in the ridiculous-yet-hard-to-explain, he sent them to me.
He’s been perusing BFRO’s site for sasquatch sightings in his area looking to make some kind of sense of this, but to no avail.
“The right track has blood on it — the right foot seems to indicate a foot injury,” his email continued. “We are kinda freaking out. We have spent hours combing through wild animal track books, trying to isolate and identify the tracks, hoping to come up with an explanation. WHOA. Freaking.
S.”
He says the tracks crossed through his yard and stopped at a large tree. Sadly there was no shivering juvenile squatch hiding in the tree when he looked up — but then where did it go? Did it fly away? Jersey devil? Mothman? My two cents — these aren’t sasquatch, Jersey devil or mothman prints; they’re clearly dogman prints. Perhaps it leapt from the tree onto another tree or onto his roof (he didn’t think to look there for more prints) and was gone. (UPDATE 1/27/11: I just searched and found this regarding Ohio’s “Loveland creature,” a reptilian spotted in 1955 and 1972, so I’m switching my opinion from dogman to lizardman.)
They’re real. It’s not a hoax. Your theory? He’s open to your explanations.

Apparent blood droplets, top left, spattered all along right foot path.

Below, a purported photograph of a "Lizard-Man" from Kansas and I beleve there is supposed to be a video associated with this sighting also.

Scale for a large Reptoid compared to a human male: Reptoids are supposed to have retractible genitalia and only one hinder opening (a Cloaca) the genitals come out of, where mating and birth occurs, and for excretion
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/branton/reptilians.html
REPTILIAN-ALIEN CASE FILES VIDEO -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CASE FILE #1: From: "The Reptilians: Humanity's Historical Link to the Serpent Race" by Joe Lewels, Ph.D.: "John Carpenter has kept close track of the abduction phenomenon. He is the director of abduction research for the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), one of the largest and most credible organizations dedicated to the scientific study of UFOs and abductions. Carpenter holds a master's degree in social work and is a highly qualified hypnotherapist who works as a psychiatric social worker in Springfield, Missouri. Since the late 1980s, he has worked with more than 100 abductees and compiled information on hundreds of others. In addition, he is in contact with other researchers in the field. He has been involved in 10 cases where experiencers have described reptilian entities and he is aware of researchers in other parts of the country with similar cases. Abductees often have distinct clawlike cuts and bruises on their bodies after their apparent abductions. "Carpenter summarized what he knows of these beings in his regular column, 'Abduction Notes,' MUFON UFO Journal, April 1993:'Typically, these reptilian creatures are reported to be about six to seven feet tall, upright, with lizardlike scales, greenish to brownish in color with clawlike, four-fingered webbed hands....Their faces are said to be a cross between a human and a snake, with a central ridge coming down from the top of the head to the snout. Adding to their serpentlike appearance are their eyes which have vertical slits in their pupils and golden irises." Perhaps the most frightening and most controversial part of these stories are claims that the creatures occasionally are reported to have sex with abductees.'"
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CASE FILE #2: From: 'OUR HAUNTED PLANET', by John A. Keel (1968. Fawcett Publications., Greenwich, Conn.): "...The parahuman Serpent People of the past are still among us. They were probably worshipped by the builders of Stonehenge and the forgotten ridge-making cultures of South America. "...In some parts of the world the Serpent People successfully posed as gods and imitated the techniques of the superintelligence. This led to the formation of pagan religions centered around human sacrifices. The conflict, so far as man himself was concerned, became one of religions and races. Whole civilizations based upon the worship of these false gods rose and fell in Asia, Africa, and South America. The battleground had been chosen, and the mode of conflict had been decided upon. "The human race would supply the pawns. The mode of control was complicated as usual. Human beings were largely free of direct control. Each individual HAD TO CONSCIOUSLY COMMIT HIMSELF TO ONE OF THE OPPOSING FORCES... "The main battle was for what was to become known as the human soul. "Once an individual had committed himself, he opened a door so that an indefinable something could actually enter his body and exercise some control over his subconscious mind. "...the Serpent People or Omega Group, attacked man in various ways, trying to rid the planet of him. But the superintelligence was still able to look over man... God worked out new ways of communication and control, always in conflict with the Serpent People."
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CASE FILE #3: From: 'CURIOUS ENCOUNTERS', by Loren Coleman (Faber & Faber., Boston, Mass. 1985) pp. 70-76: "One classic Bigfoot story, (discussed in some detail in MYSTERIOUS AMERICA) namely, the Wetzel/Riverside, California sighting on 8 November 1958, CLEARLY FITS THE REPTILIAN MODE better than the anthropoid one. Wetzel described, as you may recall, the fluorescent-eyed 'thing' as having a protuberant mouth and a body COVERED WITH SCALES, looking like leaves. Wetzel's 'thing' emerged from the Santa Ana River underbrush. "The connection to water is a strong theme in all of these accounts so it is not so surprising that the next puzzle comes from the lake monster file. Trekking up the West Coast, the following report concerns a monster that actually looks like it stepped out of the wardrobe room of the Black Lagoon movie. ...[snip]... "The Thetis monster account sounds similar to one from Saginaw, Michigan, occurring in 1937. A man-like monster climbed up a river bank, leaned against a tree, and then returned to the river. The fisherman who witnessed this appearance suffered a nervous breakdown. This Saginaw tale, the reports of clawed and three-toed prints from Wisconsin to Missouri, and other supposedly 'Bigfoot' or 'manimal' encounters perhaps should be reexamined in light of the REPTILIAN creatures from the Black Lagoon. "The big Deltox Swamp, Wisconsin flap, investigated by Ivan T. Sanderson in 1979, for example, has always been shelved with Bigfoot reports. But what is to be made of the tracks of the creature, like footprints of 'a good-sized man with swim fins.' "This trait is a more frequent characteristic in the so- called eastern Bigfoot reports than you might realize. For example, there's the case of the creature of Charles Mill Lake in Mansfield, Ohio. A green-eyed, seven-foot-tall, seemingly armless humanoid, seen late in March 1959 by Michael Lane, Wayne Armstrong, and Dennis Patterson, came out of the lake and left behind 'tracks that resembled the footgear worn by skin divers.' The thing was seen again in 1963 and described as 'luminous and green-eyed.' I examined the site of these encounters and can testify to the Charles Mill Lake's swampy affinities--certainly a good home for a Black Lagoon beast... "In 1973, during the summer, residents of New Jersey's Newton-Lafayette area described A GIANT, MAN-LIKE ALLIGATOR they had seen locally. Newspaper reporters wrote about an old Indian tale from the region that told of a giant, man-sized fish that could never be caught. In 1977, New York State Conservation Naturalist Alfred Hulstruck reported that the state's Southern Tier had 'a scaled, man-like creature (that) appears at dusk from the red, algae-ridden waters to forage among the fern and moss- covered uplands.' "The New York-New Jersey record, however, cannot compare with the overwhelming series of narratives issuing from one place in the United States, the Ohio River Valley. "Over twenty years ago, by digging into the back issues of the Louisville, Kentucky, COURIER-JOURNAL, I discovered one of those gems that has kept me pondering its meaning for two decades. The interesting little item was in the 24 October 1878 issue. A 'WIld Man of the Woods' was captured, supposedly, in Tennessee, and then placed on exhibit in Louisville. The creature was described as being six feet, five inches tall, and having eyes twice the normal size. His body was 'COVERED WITH SCALES.' This article now makes some sense. "And then almost a hundred years later, again near Louisville, there are more stories of REPTILIAN ENTITIES. In October 1975, near Milton, Kentucky, Clarence Cable reported a 'giant lizard' was roaming the forests near his junkyard. Author Peter Guttilla described the creature Cable surprised as 'about fifteen feet long, had a foot-long forked tongue, and big eyes that bulged something like a frog's. It was dull-white with black-and-white stripes across its body with quarter-size speckles over it.' "On-site field investigations by Mark A. Hall, however, indicated this 'giant lizard' RAN BIPEDALLY[in an obviously hoaxed example discussed earlier on this blog-DD], according to OTHER Trimble County, Kentucky witnesses. The Ohio River is Louisville's, Milton's, and Trimble county's northern boundary. "On 21 August 1955, near Evansville, Indiana, Mrs. Darwin Johnson was almost pulled forever into the depths of the Ohio River. In what seems to be a very close meeting with one of those creatures, Mrs. Johnson, of Godtown, Indiana, was swimming with her friend Mrs. Chris Lamble about fifteen feet from the shore when SUDDENLY SOMETHING GRABBED HER FROM UNDER THE SURFACE. It felt like the 'hand' had huge claws and 'furry' (or scaly?) palms. It came up from behind, grabbed her left leg, grabbed her knee, and pulled her under. She kicked and fought herself free. It pulled her under again. Although both women could not see the thing, they were screaming and yelling to scare it away. Finally, Mrs. Johnson lunged for Mrs. Lamble's inner tube, and the loud 'thump' apparently scared 'it' away, and 'it' released its grip. Back on shore, Mrs. Johnson received treatment for her scratches and marks on her leg. "Fortean investigator Terry Colvin passed on the information that Mrs. Johnson had a palm-print-shaped green stain below her knee that could not be removed, and it remained for several days. (Interestingly, Colvin learned the Johnsons were visited by an individual who identified himself as an Air Force colonel who took voluminous notes and warned them not to talk further about the incident. Of course, this sounds so similar to the 'Man-In- Black' encounter that is goes almost without saying.) "For anyone who has seen CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON, the Ohio River encounter of Mrs. Darwin Johnson is already familiar, for her attack was foreshadowed in that movie... "1972... In March of that year on two separate occasions, two Ohio policemen saw what has become known as the 'Loveland Frogman.' Investigated by Ron Schaffner and Richard Mackey, these researchers interviewed the officers involved but have not published their names, instead using the fictitious names 'Williams' and 'Johnson.' "The first incident took place at 1:00 A.M. on 3 March 1972, on a clear, cold night. Officer Williams was on route to Loveland, via Riverside Road, when he thought he saw a dog beside the road. But when the 'thing' stood up, its eyes illuminated by the car lights, looked at him for an instant, turned, and leapt over the guardrail. Williams saw it go down an embankment into the Little Miami River, a mere fifteen or so miles from the Ohio River. He described the thing as weighing about sixty pounds, about three to four feet tall, having a textured leathery skin, AND A FACE LIKE A FROG OR LIZARD. Williams went on to the police station and returned with Officer Johnson to look for evidence of the creature. They turned up scrape-marks leading down the side of the small hill near the river. "On approximately 17 March 1972, Officer Johnson was driving outside of Loveland when he had a similar experience. Seeing an animal lying in the middle of the road, he stopped to remove what he thought was a dead critter. Instead, when the officer opened his squeaky car door, the animal got up into a crouched position like a football player. The creature hobbled to the guardrail and lifted its leg over, while constantly looking at Johnson. Perhaps it was the funny smirk on its face, but Johnson decided to shoot at it. He missed, he figured, since the thing didn't slow down. Johnson later told how he felt it was more upright than the way Williams described it. One area farmer told investigators he saw a large, FROG-LIKE OR LIZARD-LIKE CREATURE during the same month of the officers' sightings..."
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CASE FILE #4: From: 'WORLD OF THE INCREDIBLE BUT TRUE', by Charles Berlitz (Fawcett Crest Books., N.Y.): "There have been numerous Bigfoot sightings in the United States and around the world. The humanlike creatures are usually said to be large and hairy with glowing eyes. During the summer of 1988, however, residents of Bishopville, South Carolina, reported accounts of a rare breed of Bigfoot: A SEVEN-FOOT-TALL LIZARD MAN WITH GREEN SCALY SKIN. According to witnesses, unlike other Bigfoot creatures Lizard Man has only three toes on each foot, as well as long apelike arms that end in three fingers tipped with FOUR-INCH CLAWS. Only the second Bigfoot to have only three fingers on each hand, and the first (discovered by Berlitz - Branton) to also have three toes on each foot. Lizard Man is the most unusual Bigfoot ever reported. "Seventeen-year-old Chris Davis first encountered Lizard Man around 2:00 A.S. on June 29. On his way home, the teen stopped near the brackish waters of Scape Ore Swamp outside Bishopville to change a flat tire. While replacing the jack in the car's trunk, he glimpsed something running across the field toward him. Jumping into his 1976 Toyota Celica, he was quickly engaged in a tug-of-war with the reptilian creature as he tried to pull the door closed. Then Lizard Man jumped onto the car's roof, where he left scratches in the paint as evidence of his attack. "Hysterical, Davis returned home and told only his parents and a few close friends about the experience. Law enforcement officers, however, interrogated him after neighbors said the boy might know something about the strange bite marks and scratches found on another car. "Davis wasn't alone in his report. Soon other reports were flooding the sheriff's office. Teenagers Rodney Nolfe and Shane Stokes, for example, were driving near the swamp with their girlfriends when Lizard Man darted across the road in front of their car. Construction worker George Holloman also claimed Lizard Man jumped at him as he was collecting water from an artesian well. "Investigating the area around the swamp, state trooper Mike Hodge and Lee County deputy sheriff Wayne Atkinson found three crumbled, forty-gallon cardboard drums. The tops of saplings were ripped off eight feet above the ground. And there were, according to Hodge, 'humongous footprints,' fourteen-by-seven- inch impressions in hard red clay. Following the tracks for four hundred yards, the officers backtracked and found new prints impressed in their car's tire tracks. According to state wildlife biologists, the footprints matched no known animal species." (This "Lizard Man" sighting was covered in one of the episodes of Tim White's "SIGHTINGS" documentary, "MONSTERS" segment, on the Fox Network - Branton).

Sunday, 19 February 2012

Winged Reptoids And More Flying Horribles

Winged Reptilian Sighted in Wisconsin by Man & Son
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=81821

[The following report assumes that what is being witnessed is one of the "Boss" Reptoids, a winged "Draco". These Dracos are much larger than regular humans and yet are supposed to be able to fly]
Posted 06 November 2006 - 01:02 AM
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Above is a drawing of a Reptilian humanoid. You can see the bony ridge that extends from the forehead. This is a classic feature of one species of Reptoid.

This particular entity was seen in the mid-90s as a man and his son were hunting for a lost dog by the riverbank in LaCrosse, Wisconsin, in the US. Around the same time, a state DNR warden and separately, a group of highway workers saw what they described as a "reptile man" on Hwy. 13 near Medford. It also possessed wings and was able to fly out of their view. The Medford spot was very near the Black River which winds up from LaCrosse!


And now there has been another recent sighting of a wing-ed Reptilian which occurred on Tuesday, September 26, 2006, on Briggs Road near LaCrosse between 9:15 and 9:30 pm. A 53-year old LaCrosse man(who goes by the name "Wohali") and his 25-year-old son saw the creature almost fly into their windshield. It stared in at them and then swooped upwards into the night sky. (Below is the drawing by one of the witnesses)

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The creature was an estimated 6-7 feet tall, had batlike, leathery wings with a span of 10-12 feet, long claws on its feet and "hands" and a snarling expression on the face. They both somehow felt it was angry it had been seen. In seconds, both became physically ill, and the son, who was driving, swerved and then pulled the truck over into the ditch so he could vomit. The son, who wishes his identity kept private, vomited six or seven times. Wohali retched, as well, and both remained sick for an entire week. The son was so frightened by the encounter that he refuses to discuss it.

I believe the nausea the men experienced could be due to the creature being radioactive and/or possessing a hazardous chemical perhaps used during a government experiment. Some people have reported getting sick after seeing aliens and UFO's. Wohali further described the creature: it had "distended ribs, long sort of human legs with claws, huge bat-like wings with 'arms' sort of attached, I remember the teeth and the scream we heard was terrifying."

I think there are several possibilities as to where it originated. It could be an Ultradimensional and have come through a portal, it could've escaped from an underground Reptilian area, and/or it could've been just one more governmental experiment underground that was let loose into the environment. But I think the sightings of two Reptilians in the LaCrosse area over the years is very strange.

I found a map of the LaCrosse area and it shows Lacrosse as running right along the Mississippi River. There was a case a while back of someone seeing a tiny alien in a town bordering a river in Chile. So it would seem plausible to assume that they are appearing near a needed water source.

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Also, I found out that there are quite a few heavily wooded bluffs in LaCrosse. This would allow the creatures to stay hidden(for the most part) from society until someone happened to wander into their territory.
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The man who witnessed the recent sighting said "I've been living in this valley all my life and have seen some strange things, after all the Mississippi Upper Wildlife Refuge is the largest in the country and right out my back door. It hides lots of strange creatures. But I've NEVER seen anything like this. Rent the movie Bram Stoker, Dracula, the Dracula creature looks like it or better yet like the one in Van Helsing."


DRACO
http://www.think-aboutit.com/Reps/phydes.htm

The Draco reptoids, usually standing seven to twelve feet tall, have been reported to be the royal elitists of the reptoid hierarchy. They are seen far less often than other reptoids types. The Draco are similar in appearance to the Reptoid, but they have distinct physical differences.

Draco have wings. These wings are made of long, thin bony spines or ribs that protrude out of the Dracos backs. The ribs are adjoined by flaps of leathery, blackish-brown skin. The wings are usually in a retracted position. In some instances, such as reported by author John Keel ('Mothman Prophecies), the beings matching descriptions of the Draco have been seen to actually fly by use of their wings. (With the beings neck cranked downwards upon spectators, the glowing red reflective eyes of a flying Draco would appear to be placed in the middle of their chest as described by eyewitnesses.)

[This would not actually work the way it is described and more importantly, it is not what the witnesses are actually describing. Better to leave Mothman out of it-DD]

In several contacts, people have seen reptilian looking beings wearing capes draped over their shoulders and down their backs. The capes may either be a piece of clothing specifically designed for covering the Dracos wings or their retracted, dark leathery flaps might be appearing to be a fabric-like material flowing across and down their shoulders and backs.

What strikes eyewitnesses the most about the Draco beings is that they have horns. (not pictured here). These may be long, bony ridges that run back along their slightly conical heads or they may also be actual, horny protuberances that developed midway between the brow and the top of the Dracos skull. (These classical physical characteristics attributed to the modern image of Satan.)

The Draco types appear to have a much more athletic build than the other reptilian beings. Their upper torsos are extremely lean and their neck muscles splay out from the base of their jaw to their shoulder blades. (Their lean build may result from the physical demands required to fly with the use of their wings?)


DRACO PRIME

Some individuals, who had reported Draco contact, said that there were instanced when another Draco, with white powdery scales, approached and gave the others instructions. In every one of these cases, the greenish-brown Draco beings appeared to be submissive and highly respectful towards those with white scales. This reaction indicated that the Draco hierarchy is a caste system dependant on skin color (and possibly other unknown genetic straits).

Other non-human beings, such as the Greys, have also demonstrated similar respect for the Draco, so they appear to be top dogs in the reptoid food chain. What remains a mystery is whether these are commanders, kings, generals, politicians or simply caste socialites sneaking peaks into advanced 'Black'[illegal] projects of their own.

Without putting too fine a point on it, the Draco Reptoids are Physical Devils. The general appearance is batlike (or even Batman-like) but they are so big that it is difficult to see how they could possibly fly. However, reports could also include reports of Thunderbirds or "Pterodactyls" misundersood and this is explicitely stated below.


young artist's conception of a Draco Reptoid



http://missionquest.freepowerboards.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1812

The report which is at the top of this blog entry was also included on this blog at the link and so I omitted a repeated mention of it, but I shall go ahead and add what else was on the blog:
 

MissionQuest 

Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile

by Pen » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:02 pm

I just got this email..... As some of you may know here my husband and I sighted a huge winged reptile as we were walking one night back in 1997. I put it on a crpto site and left it there. Over the years I have received emails from others who have sighted one of these reptiles, but don't want to come forward publically with their sighting. Of course I did on a crypto site years ago and promptly got called a liar. So its understandable why people don't come forward. Makes me wonder just how many other people out there have sighted these things and kept quiet about it.

Anyway here is the email:

Hi there, just caught your story as I decided to google search winged creature sightings from the following story.

Friend of mine and her daughter spotted a winged creature sitting on a road. It was a suburban street with houses etc on a hill (Mt Coolum Sunshine Coast Qld.) As they drove up to it, they saw it was huge and as described nearly took up the whole road. It appeared "Not of this world" .. As she described it kind of like being like a Teradactle (sp?)[Pterodactyl]..Apart from the "WTF is that??" comments, lol. Not sure if it was the same thing you saw but they drove right up to it and it appeared to move slowly in it's take off.. They both saw the same thing and described it the same including how it took off from the ground. . I don't know how to describe the wing movement as she decribed it by moving her own arms but it moved not like a flapping of wings more like curling it up at the side slowly and then seemingly effortlessly taking off. Kind of one movement type thing.

I think it's an incredible story and I believe them 100%, she seems to think that it's not a worldly creature but one from a porthole of some ancient spiritual realm, perhaps this creature can move within these two worlds?

Who knows, definately couldnt be feeding off the enviroment? especially in a populated area etc..(although the sunshine coast is a regional but coastal area). If it does it's scarey to say the least. It's way too big not to be noticed as well... What would it eat? Fish?

Thought you might like to know considering it was in Australia.

cheers.

Know Thyself - and thou shalt know all the mysteries of the Gods and of the universe.

"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters compared to what lies within us." ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile
by Pen » Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:06 pm

Here is my response to the person who emailed me:

Hi

Hi there, just caught your story as I decided to google search winged creature sightings from the following story. Thank you so much for taking the time to write to me and let me know of this sighting. This is the second report I have received from someone in Qld of sighting one of these creatures.
They have been sighted in different parts of the world…. PNG, U.S, England and Australia. I have wondered if these aren’t the dragons of ancient times.

Friend of mine and her daughter spotted a winged creature sitting on a road. It was a suburban street with houses etc on a hill (Mt Coolum Sunshine Coast Qld.) As they drove up to it, they saw it was huge and as described nearly took up the whole road. It appeared "Not of this world" .. As she described it kind of like being like a Teradactle [Pterodactyl].Apart from the "WTF is that??" comments, lol. Not sure if it was the same thing you saw but they drove right up to it and it appeared to move slowly in it's take off..

The report I got from Qld a couple of years ago said it was sitting on the roof of their garage.
Our sighting in Western Australia was over a densely populated area.

They both saw the same thing and described it the same including how it took off from the ground. . I don't know how to describe the wing movement as she described it by moving her own arms but it moved not like a flapping of wings more like curling it up at the side slowly and then seemingly effortlessly taking off. Kind of one movement type thing.

We did not see the creature take off, we saw it soaring on the wind currents… at first it was just a huge dark shadow in the night sky, but when it got over just to the right of us the ground lighting lit up its underbelly…. That was a major shock for me. We watched it fly away until it was just a dot on the horizon.

I think it's an incredible story and I believe them 100%, she seems to think that it's not a worldly creature but one from a porthole of some ancient spiritual realm, perhaps this creature can move within these two worlds?


An other dimensional creature? I have thought the same thing, but its just speculation. Jonathan Whitcombe has gone in search of this creature which has been seen often on a small island off the coast of PNG. He also included our sighting in two of his books… â€Å“In Search of Ropens”. I wonder if you would mind me forwarding this email on to him….. I know he would really appreciate it.

Who knows, definitely couldn't be feeding off the environment? especially in a populated area etc..(although the sunshine coast is a regional but coastal area). If it does it's scary to say the least. It's way too big not to be noticed as well... What would it eat? Fish?

Lets hope it eats fish!! That was a question I had too upon our sighting. You have to admit many people go missing without ever been found, and many of those are off beaches. Not saying that its one of these things but it sure makes your mind work overtime!


Thought you might like to know considering it was in Australia.
cheers.

Thanks, I truly appreciate it. If you would like to pass on my email address to your friend who sighted this creature, please do so. I would welcome speaking to them.

Take care
Pen

PS. When I finally decided to come out public with our sighting, I found a crypto zoology message board and posted the sighting, but was promptly called a liar, which was very upsetting to say the least, when I was telling the gospel truth. I left and never went back to that site. I found another site and just posted my report and left. That is how Jonathan found me, and I discovered that I was not alone in sighting this creature.

Re: Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile

by Pen » Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:00 am

I received an email from the lady who saw this huge winged reptile along with her 13 year old that was in the car with her. This women appears to be a very nice person.... She told me she was driving at night, and came upon the creature beside the road, and it leapt up into the air... one of its wings covering her entire car... she thought she was going to hit it. She said it flew off towards Mt Coolum, where there are a few caves. She also told me that she has spoken to someone else who has seen one of these huge creatures. Whatever they are, they must be nocturnal. I have spoken to others too who have seen one of these things, and both hubby and I have too back in 1997.

Pen

Re: Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile

by Pen » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:03 pm

Excerpt:

I received calls from as far as Canada and China. However, despite the reports of Bigfoot, serpents and even a troll (!), the most unusual call I had concerned a chap from merry ol̢۪ England. This is his story:

‘OK, before I report this I want you to no I’m in no way over the top, crazy, or mad…but one night while driving home from Exeter to Torquay on the A38 a couple of years ago I saw a large winged creature. I had just got to the top of Haldon Hill and as I came to the top of the hill something swooped down and flew up and over my car so close to my windscreen you could have fit a Rizla paper between it! The only way I can explain how these wings looked was the same as how bats wings are but much bigger! The wingspan was wider than my Honda Civic 1.5, I'd say each wing was about 2 .5 metres across.

'I’m seriously not the sort of person to come forward about this type of stuff, I kind of dismissed it until I heard you on Coast To Coast saying that many people had seen things like this. I hadn’t heard of anyone else who had reported this until now so felt I should share with you what I saw. The area I saw this has a lot of thick dense woods….and I mean miles of woods.’

Source: http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2010 ... -hill.html

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And elsewhere:

Strange & Unexplained - Flying Humanoids
http://www.skygaze.com/content/strange/FlyingHumanoids.shtml

EXCERPT:

In a 1947 book Russian writer V. K. Arsenyev recounted this July 11, 1908, experience in the Sikhote Mountains near Vladivostok in the far eastern region of what would be the USSR:

The rain stopped, the temperature of the air remained low and the mist appeared over the water. It was then that I saw the mark on the path that was very similar to a man's footprint. My dog Alpha bristled up, snarled, and then something rushed about nearby trampling among the bushes. However, it didn't go away, but stopped nearby, standing stock-still. We had been standing like that for some minutes.... Then I stooped, picked up a stone and threw it towards the unknown animal. Then something happened that was quite unexpected: I heard the beating of wings. Something large and dark emerged from the fog and flew over the river. A moment later it disappeared in the dense mist. My dog, badly frightened, pressed itself to my feet.

After supper I told the Udehe-men about this incident. They broke into a vivid story about a man who could fly in the air. Hunters often saw his tracks, tracks that appeared suddenly and vanished suddenly, in such a way that they could only be possible if the "man" alighted on the ground, then took off again into the air.

MOTHMEN.US
http://www.mothmen.us/mothman-sightings.htm

MOTHMEN.US PHOTO GALLERY
http://www.mothmen.us/mothman-images_photo-gallery.htm

COMMENT From MOTHMEN.US:

I had my own sighting in ohh.. Must have been 1980 or 1979.. somewhere around there.. My parents had bought this farm about 30 miles N.E. of Rolla MO.. The day in question was a warm summer day around noonish.. I was out near the pond fishing when I saw a shadow.. I looked up and saw this incredibly huge (about 6 ft long) huge birdlike thing.. It didnt appear to have feathers.. more like fur.... it was dark brown.. not making a sound.. it looked like it was only about 50 ft up in the air.. If even that.. its been awhile ago.. but the image was burned into my mind that I remember it to this day.....


Re: Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile

by Pen » Thu Sep 16, 2010 11:59 am

Hi Penny

This thing we saw was not mothman or owlman..... it was a huge flying reptile.... we estimated its wingspan would have been between 30-50ft across. It was huge! When the ground lighting lit up its underside we saw that it was definitely a reptile.

The English person reporting his sighting said:

I mentioned to the witness the reports of Owlman but he stated, ‘The wings were more like a bat, too wide for an owl. I didn’t see the head as it was too fast but the wings reminded me of a pterodactyl. It literally swooped over my car and the car shook, similar to when a lorry goes by on the motorway. I was doing about 65 mph and I wish I’d stopped but at the time my heart was pumping. This thing was more reptile-like in its skin texture and the colour was a beige-brown.’

The one we saw was a ruddy reddish brown colour, and it had a sort of beige in it too in parts. Now a similarity in this report with ours is that we did not see its head either.... it was due to the angle it was flying at, or it flew with its head tucked right back. We saw its underbelly due to the ground lighting, but the rest of it was in shadow.... But we saw it pretty clearly due to it being a moonlit night. I honestly could not move or take my eyes off it.... I just stood there anchored to the spot watching it, with hubby beside me doing the same. He took it a lot more about it than me, with his scientific mind. We stood watching it until it was a dot in the sky in the distance. So there are some strange things in this ole world in which we live. It pays to pay attention. There are obviously creatures of the day, and creatures of the night.

Pen

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Re: Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile



by True Angel » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:50 am

Dinosaur birds all over the internet?? Yes, Pterodactyls. I was looking for images about winged creature sightings and these links about Newly found this bird and that bird and the name Pterodactyls kept coming up.

So, I posted the article below on them. This evening I was going to post a search link but came across a possible attack site. So be careful when searching for info RE this bird. Since it is a hot topic, spammers abound.

Living Pterodactyls Haunt Our Skies
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/Pterodac ... ar05.shtml
 
 

Re: Sighting Of Huge Winged Reptile

by Pen » Sat Sep 18, 2010 6:38 pm

Hi Penny

That was a really interesting read.....

Excerpts:

We know that these creatures once existed because of the fossil record. Sightings have continued to this day, and legends abound, but where is the physical evidence that these creatures still exist? One thing that must be first understood is that fossils are anomalous geological artifacts, typically made because of some cataclysm or volcanic disaster. Most animals when they die, naturally or by a predator, simply decay and return to dust. The point here is that a pterodactyl that died in a desert or jungle or mountain crag 1,000 years ago (or even 10) would not have left a fossil behind for us to prove to us that it had been there.

The second thing that must be understood about these amazing flying animals is that they are nocturnal and live only in extremely remote and uninhabited areas of the earth. Even so, there are literally hundreds of reports of giant birds and flying lizards showing up around the world. The most amazing pteranodon fossil ever discovered was at Big Bend National Park in Texas. The park was the site of the discovery of the skeleton of a giant pteranodon in 1975. It had a wingspan of 51 feet and is the largest fossil of a flying reptile so far discovered. Other pterodactyls were much smaller and had wingspans from 8 to 20 feet.

Though pteranodons are believed to have become extinct about 65 million years ago, this may not necessarily be the case. Many creatures which lived at that time are still alive, such as crocodiles, turtles, and the famous coelacanth prehistoric fish. Even the date of the fossil of the giant pteranodon found at Big Bend is in question. Since fossils cannot be dated by any known technical method, their age is guessed at from the geological strata around them, and since the current dating of geological strata is based on the prevailing Uniformitarian theory of slow geological change, the date of many fossils may be radically closer to our own than 65 million years.

Legends of Flying Reptiles

The Chinese have had legends for thousands of years of flying reptiles called dragons, and flying snakes as well- something apparently different. Flying reptile dragon images in China are so prevalent, they can easily be considered amongst the most common of motifs. Are they stylized depictions of real flying animals? The ancient Chinese certainly thought they were.

Almost every Indian tribe from Alaska to Tierro del Fuego has legends of a gigantic flying monster so large that, ". . . it darkened the sun." The clapping of these giants' wings created thunder, so they were known as "Thunderbirds." The Navajo Indians still perform their Thunderbird dance, and tell the legends of the "cliff monster" which lived in a high craggy roost, descending to carry people off to feed to its young. The Haida natives of the Queen Charlotte Islands of British Columbia believe that some Thunderbirds were so large that they could literally pick up small whales from the sea. Much of their art and woodcarving depicts exactly such a capture by a Thunderbird.

It is the most surreal experience to see one of these things in this modern age.... Something you would never, ever expect to see. It makes you realise that there is far more to this world than we are lead to believe. Its almost like we have been lied to all our lives.... I know what we saw, and it was no figment of our imaginations....
It truly makes you wonder about many missing persons. Especially those that suddenly go missing off beaches at night time. One of our own Prime Ministers disappeared off a beach.
A few years back I read a story on the news of a jaw bone being found by a farmer in his field in Qld. I think it was just the lower part of the jaw but nothing else was found. The DNA matched to a man who went missing mysteriously back in 1996. I wondered how that piece of jaw bone got into the farmers field. I have had two people contact me from Qld that have seen one of these creatures. One young man said he was out locking the shed and turned to see one sitting on top of the shed looking at him. He bolted to the house, and called his parents but when they came out it was gone.
If there wasn't so many idiots debunking sightings of these creatures we would be able to with a bit of luck find out more of what they are about.... but due to idiots people do not come forward. Such a pity.

Pen
_ thought it might be a good idea to go over the older Queensland story because I recently posted about the Pterodactyl-like "Toothed Birds" and I said before it might have been a Manta ray they were seeing. While I was gathering the current data I also saw the Long island "Manta Ray" report and so I'll reprint that also:

Friday, February 04, 2011

Flying Translucent Ray-Shaped Cryptid - Hampton Bays, New York


I received a very interesting email on 2/3/2011 that described an encounter with a 'manta ray' shaped flying entity on Long Island:

Hello, Lon...

My name is Jeni and I live in New York; I grew up on Long Island and have always loved heading out East - the Montauk Projects, Brookhaven Labs; we've had a lot of experience with the unexplained out here (I've seen a plethora of various types of UFOs on LI since early childhood). I stumbled across your blog and am writing in response to the post "Winged Manta Ray Shaped Cryptid - Near Ashton, WV - 12/3/2004". (NOTE - follow up at Additional Ray-Shaped Cryptid Sightings in WV Ohio River Valley Revealed...Lon)
Date of Event: July, 2006
Time: 9:00 - 10:00 pm EST (estimated time frame)
Weather Conditions: Clear, bright night. The moon was very bright and large and you could see every star as the further east you go, the less 'light pollution you experience.
Location: Traveling West on Dune Road, stopped at the Jetty in Hampton Bays, NY (the end of Dune Road).
My experience occurred sometime in July 2006, right after my father had passed away. I regularly take long drives out to the East end of Long Island and walk on the beaches at night as it's very peaceful and isolated. The beach in Hampton Bays (the Jetty at the end of Dune Road) is particularly nice at night. I've been there at least a hundred times and had never experienced anything out of the ordinary. I took my then-fiancee out there to show him the phosphorescent shrimp that wash ashore as he had never seen them; we parked the car and proceeded to walk down to the water. The moon was very bright that night, so you could look down the long stretch of beach and see everything. We were alone. No other people were on the beach, no other cars were parked nearby and all establishments were closed; it's a rather remote area aside from a few scattered private residences and a few restaurant/bars. Now, a bit about me: I'm an artist, was raised with an open mind, am a healthy skeptic and I don't scare easily.

As soon as we stepped onto the beach I had a feeling of general unease; that instinctive fear that one would experience in the presence of a predator. I chose to ignore it; occasionally peeking over my shoulder at the long, empty stretch of beach behind me but mostly focusing on the tiny glowing shrimp beneath our feet. At one point I felt a presence and again, chose to ignore it as I've dealt with that quite a bit in my 30 years. I had not voiced my unease to my fiancee, so he was completely unaware. About 5 - 10 minutes into our short walk we were both hunched over, his back facing the jetty, mine facing the stretch of empty beach when he started peering over my shoulder, up into the sky. Perplexed, he'd look for a second, then look away - at this point I was still trying to retain my composure and not look. Finally, after a few minutes, he looked over my head and yelled "oh my god! What *is* that?!" - I turned to look and 'flying' directly over my head was this huge creature I'd never seen! I will detail as best I can:

It appeared translucent/transparent; no color whatsoever - no visible structure outside of the motion which indicated what it looked like; now, I myself am a visual artist, so this left a very distinct impression on me. This 'creature' was shaped and moving in the way a Manta Ray would; yet completely transparent! No color at all; I could see the stars through this thing; the only thing to allow the structure any appearance was the moonlight shining somehow on its' exterior!
It was larger than a standard sedan. It's wingspan was at least, from what I could estimate, 10' in width; while it was 'flying', its wings moving up and down. The movement seemed familiar, like that of a gull swooping down and hovering over the shoreline. It was approximately 10 - 15' over my head; it had no visible 'head' or 'tail'; no discernible limbs or appendages of any kind. It appeared and moved exactly as a Manta Ray without the 'Cephalic Lobes' or tail. I was completely awe-struck, but that fear took over and after about 30 seconds of staring at this thing we both turned and bolted toward the car. While running, we both simultaneously jerked our heads to the right in response to a glowing green light which seemed to flash twice (it was not the light from the tower on the jetty, nor was it from any boat; that water was clear). I never looked behind me. We started heading back on Dune Road when we saw what I could only describe as two, smaller 'rays' which moved more like a bat would, flying together from right to left overhead past the car. These two were translucent and had a grayish color to them... strange. They were flying in the direction of the beach, where the larger, more transparent creature was. On the ride home, we spoke about how confused we were, but didn't compare notes on what we had seen - I told him I wanted to wait until we got home to do that.

Now I consider myself a well-educated believer in Supernatural/Paranormal phenomenon and have a long-standing fascination with Cryptids but I always approach everything with a healthy dose of skepticism. As soon as we arrived home, I tore two pages out of a sketchbook, grabbed two pencils and gave one of each to my fiancee, instructed him to draw exactly what he had seen and left the room; I did the same. When we were done, we placed our sketches side by side and they were identical. That was enough confirmation for me. I immediately went online to try to research any reports which would help explain what we had witnessed, but I couldn't find anything at all! It was extremely frustrating. I did report the sighting to the National UFO Reporting Center (www.nuforc.org), but still, until I stumbled across this post, was at a loss for any confirmation or additional reports of this type of creature.

I really would love to hear of anyone else who may have experienced something similar on the East end of Long Island... feel free to post this if you like. I'd love some answers as I'm fascinated by this event. It's so difficult to describe the appearance due to the fact that it was transparent, yet we could see the motion. Almost like when heat rises from asphalt and wrinkles the air... I really was amazed and have no idea what this thing could be!

"It was so beautiful and strange! It reminded me of a sea creature more than anything else, maybe our air is like water to them." - I feel the same way; I instantly felt that it seemed to be 'swimming' through the air. I also believe that it's possible that multiple dimensions are simply a vibration away; that many things are likely coming over and going back from time to time...

Thank you,

Jeni

NOTE: please forward any information similar to this sighting. If you have seen this cryptid, I can post as a follow up and/or forward to Jeni...Lon

--Now I'm afraid Lon is one of the fellows that I have offended with my opinions posted on this blog before and I'm afraid I'd have to say this one report still sounds to me like a manta ray seen at night: it was seen on the seashore and it seemed "Transparent" because it was black against the dark night sky, and similarly no cephalic "Horns" or tail were seen because it was dark. But then on "Phantoms and Monsters" the report segues into another set of reports of stingray or mata ray shaped "living UFOs seen in the Ohio River Valley area, including where "Mothman" reports used to be made. These are white, flat featureless creatures without any obvious heads, eyes or anything else, and they are not birds because they "Swim" through the air with a sort of shivering or rippling motion throughout their bodies.

And I'm not going to call any of the witnesses of those reports on what they say or say they are lying because I had heard similar reports from Indiana in the 1970s: in fact my first story I wrote in my High School newspaper as a reporter was about such "Living UFOs" reported locally. At the time I used the description from one of the reports as their generic name: White Ovals or White Oblongs. And they were one of the first matters I was talking about when I originally joined the SITU, back when Ivan Sanderson was still alive.I had done a survey and had several descriptions of them, including a report at near range with one of the things grounded. On that occasion the witness called it a boneless mass of protoplasm, like a colossal amoeba. In other words, a living Globster.

Saturday, 18 February 2012

Austrian Cave Encounter With Reptoids

Austrian Cave Encounter With Reptoids

Lizardman Sighting in California on Left, Fantasy Game Troglodyte on the Right


http://globalwarming-arclein.blogspot.com/2012/02/austrian-cave-encounter-with-reptoids.html?utm_source=BP_recent

Friday, February 17, 2012

There are a number of reports out there that tell of a reptilian derived species that is humanoid and appears to live within the earth. I have also posted a report of an interview with one such creature in which it is revealed that they are terran, and arose from our own reptilian past over millions of years. They possess advanced technology and all that and do choose to live deep within the Earth.


That interview is fairly complete and also self consistent and conforms with many of my own unrelated speculations external to the issue of another route to intelligence on Earth.


It is noteworthy that at the time of the extinction, specific reptiles were prospective for the emergence of an intelligent creature.


The following report conforms well to earlier reports and descriptions.
I do think that these creatures would occasionally access the surface in order to conduct science. Thus once acceptance of the phenomena is reached, there is little here exceptional except that actual encounters show surprising familiarity on the part of the reptiles. They are not particularly afraid of us and are quite willing to communicate and will communicate. This familiarity is not observed in other UFO reported creatures.

So make of this what you will.
Austrian Cave Encounter

MONDAY, FEBRUARY 13, 2012



The original email from the witness was forwarded to me during the Christmas holidays. With honest intent and in deference to Gregor (the witness) I have debated whether to present this anecdote to the readers for a variety of reasons. I have exchanged emails with the witness but there were some communication difficulties that needed to be ironed out since his English was a bit rusty according to him. Anyway, here is the final version of Gregor's encounter:


Hello Lon - I am writing to you from where I live in Gmunden, Austria. Recently I came across your story about the man who had an encounter with an alien type creature in a cave in the United States. The story is similar to my encounter in an obscure cave here in Upper Austria. This area is known for salt mining and Salzkammergut, the salt mines of the former Habsburg empire. I am a trained and certified geologist - I studied at the University of Salzburg and in the United States at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. I have explored and documented cave systems throughout Austria, Czech Republic and Poland since 1988.


In May 2011 I was in a narrow cave that a colleague had recently found. This was approximately 2 KM north of Obertraun on the opposite side of the descending mountain range in the foothills near the east bank of Halsatter See (lake). As I moved through the difficult passageway I started to hear voices emanating from the darkness ahead of me. I stopped to collect a few sample from the cave wall - chipping it with my pick. I moved deeper - maybe 50 meters - until I noticed the voices again. I am familiar with echos and Doppler effect sounds in caves but this was totally different. I stood quietly for several minutes until the voices stopped.


Again I moved through the cave - almost crawling at this point. After another 40 meters I ascended into a chamber that was big enough to accommodate several people. There were two wide openings on the opposite side of the chamber - each looked like it has been excavated by machine. There was also an obvious rotting odor. As I examined the chamber I noticed an odd red iridescence as I passed the light over the rock floor. When I knelt down to collect a sample I again heard voices coming from one of the passageways. At this point I was terrified and started to hurry back through the narrow cave. After I squeezed back several meters I was able to turn my head just enough to look back into the dark chamber.


A yellow light slowly made its way into the chamber from the left opening in the chamber - then there were several yellow lights following the first. As the lights moved through the opening into the chamber then back through the opening on the right I was able to see the beings. The sight sent fear throughout my body - I was actually paralyzed.



This is the image forwarded by the witness as a fair rendition of the creatures


The creatures were humanoid in stature - but these were not human. Each varied in height but all looked the same - muscular lizards that walked upright like humans. There is not a better term I can use to identify these beings. These creatures wore dark colored full-body uniforms that extended and covered the feet. I couldn't tell the exact color of the skin but each had a pronounced muzzle. The long tails were very prominent and swiftly swayed back and forth as they moved forward. The arms and legs were massive - I could detect the musculature through the uniforms. There were voices also - as if they were talking to each other. The voices actually sounded human though I could not detect the language. There were possibly 20 or more of these creatures as they walked single file through the chamber and into the other opening.

When I conceived it was safe to move I quickly withdrew from the cave. I think I may have been in shock because I barely remember anything that happened from that point until I reached my office. I decided to keep a private journal regarding my encounter - but I have not discussed it with anyone else. My colleague who originally found the cave told me that he has explored the cave since my encounter but never mentions anything about the chamber, other passageways or bizarre beings.


At this point in time, I am starting to doubt that I witnessed these creatures. Is it possible that I hallucinated this encounter - or possibly experienced something from the past or the future? I am a trained professional who deals with reality - but my beliefs have been seriously shaken. I appreciate your introspect and thoughts - as well as observation by your readers. Thank you – Gregor


NOTE: The fact that Gregor wondered if his encounter was a scene from another time in the past or future, he may have answered his own question...Lon




http://chrisfarnsworth.com/extras/monsterpaedia/


MONSTERPAEDIA

An A-Z Guide to the Weirdest Creatures on Earth

By Cole Daniels

LIZARD MEN

Every culture in the world has a history of serpent people—reptilian or lizardlike humanoid creatures—in its folklore. The Yaqui of Mexico have their Snake Men. The Hopi have the Lizard People. The Chinese had the Dragon Kings. The Greeks had Glycon, a snake god with the head of a man, while the ancient Egyptians had Set, the serpent god. Early Judaism and Christianity put the serpent in the garden on his own two feet, and the Hindus had the Naga, a reptilian race that lived underground and warred with humanity. The Zulu in Africa have legends of a race of lizard people called Chitahuri or Chitauri who secretly rule the world. Nobody knows why this idea is universal across human history, or why snakes are so universally reviled as the source of all evil because of it.

From the earliest days of civilization, human beings have feared these creatures. But while mainstream science is ready to consign the Serpent People to the dustbin of myth and legend, there are indications that the lizards themselves haven’t gotten the memo.
If eyewitnesses and conspiracy theorists are to be believed, the Lizard People are still among us. Reports of reptilian humanoids range from Florida to as far north as Canada. There’s the Gatorman of New Jersey, the Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp, the Loveland Frogman, and the Thetis Monster, to name a few. But these Bigfoot-like monsters are nowhere near as frightening as the alien-human Reptilians (or Reptoids) who allegedly control the world through a global secret society.
Lifelong researcher of the paranormal John Keel believed that there was a race of lizard-like humanoids who predated early man and appeared to our cave-dwelling ancestors as both gods and devils. Keel believed these beings were technologically advanced and often used humans for their own ends.
More importantly, Keel believed that the lizard people were still around:
“The parahuman Serpent People of the past are still among us,” he wrote. “They were probably worshipped by the builders of Stonehenge and the forgotten ridge-making cultures of South America.”[i]
The lizard man who showed up in South Carolina in 1988 wasn’t very civilized, however.
Christopher Davis, then 17, described a seven foot tall monster with scales, fangs and claws that attacked him in Scape Ore Swamp, South Carolina. He said it attempted to tear its way into his car and jumped on the roof as he drove away in panic. Davis said the thing managed to run alongside his car at speeds up to 40 MPH. Scratches and bite marks were found for several months on other cars near the swamp.

Tracks were found, but state wildlife officials called them fakes.
Still, the sightings continue, with the most recent report from 2008, when a couple found a dead cow and coyote in a field – along with big claw marks on their car. Officials said the claw and bite marks were done by a dog. But longtime investigators of deep weirdness know that the authorities always have a cover story.

There might be a connection – however tenuous – between the Lizard Men of the swamps with the town of Innsmouth, Massachusetts. Now largely forgotten and absorbed into larger communities on the coast, Innsmouth was a hotspot of “fish-men” sightings in the Roaring Twenties. This brought some unwelcome attention to the town fathers, who were revealed to be deep into the bootlegging business, importing Canadian beer and whiskey by fishing boat. The Treasury Department, including a young Elliot Ness before his “Untouchable” days in Chicago, raided the entire waterfront in 1928. The locals were well-armed, and most of the town ended up dead or in jail. Later, government officials said the fish-man sightings were probably just skin-divers who brought the illegal booze from boats to the shore at night. Innsmouth was more or less abandoned after the raid. But several members of the Marsh family – the town founders who were named as the biggest players in the smuggling operation – vanished. Rumors put several of them in the deep South, including some of the areas haunted by lizard men. Who knows? Maybe the Marshes brought the creatures with them when they went on the run.
The colder, northern climates are best known for Bigfoot, but there are a couple lizard men encroaching on his turf, too. The Thetis Lake Monster of British Columbia, is said to look a lot like the creature from Scape Ore Swamp, and the Loveland Frog of Ohio, is supposed to be a humanoid frog-man who’s a little shorter than his cousins at about four to five feet tall.
Lizard men have also been sighted in California, Louisiana, Georgia and North Carolina.[ii]
The Lizard People also apparently had a secret underground city beneath – where else? – Los Angeles. The Los Angeles Times reported in 1934 on an engineer named G. Warren Shufelt who disappeared into a mining shaft below the city in search of an ancient Hopi legend. “This network of tunnels formed the lost Lizard City, according to Shufelt and the legend,” the article states. The city was laid out like a lizard, according to Shufelt’s maps, and was filled with golden treasures. If the city was there, the paper never followed up. Shufelt was never heard from again after he went down the shaft.[iii]

Maybe the Lizard People weren’t quite dead yet. In Colorado during the Depression, a number of witnesses claimed to have seen man-sized, bipedal, dinosaur-like lizards. One was supposedly exhibited in a farmer’s barn for several days after it was shot and killed. Whether or not this is related to the “serpent people” legends of the local Hopi Indian tribes is unknown.[iv]
Perhaps the least surprising place to find slimy, serpent-like humanoids is in politics. Several conspiracy theorists have advanced a theory that blood-drinking, alien-spawned “Reptoids” have been running the world since the Dark Ages, with members ranging from the British Royal Family to the President of the United States.
The leading advocate and author of this theory is David Icke, whose previous career as a TV host led to hunting blood-drinking lizards disguised as humans.
Icke’s theory is long and convoluted, ranging from the Illuminati to the Rothschilds to the International Zionists, but it comes down to one thing: fear. According to Icke, the Reptilians are actually creating chaos in the world to feed off the negative human emotions that result. Pretty much every evil thing you can imagine is the Reptilians fault. The end goal: a captive human population controlled by microchips. “These are real blood-drinking bloodlines, people,” Icke says.[v]
As with most unknown creatures, no one has ever presented any actual, physical evidence of lizard people. But the conspiracy theorists would say that just proves there’s a cover-up. Who knows? Maybe the dinosaurs only let us think they went extinct.

[i] Keel, John A. Our Haunted Planet. Connecticut. Fawcett. 1968.
[ii] Coleman, Loren. Mothman and Other Curious Encounters. New York. Paraview Press. 2002
[iii] Bosquet, Jean. “Lizard People’s Catacomb City Hunted.” Los Angeles Times Jan. 29 1934: A1.
[iv] Arment, Chad, Ed. Cryptozoology and the Investigation of Lesser-Known Mystery Animals. Pennsylvania. Coachwhip Press. 2006.
[v] Nathaniel Page. “They Vote To Suck Your Blood.” LA City Beat March 19-25, 2009: 8-9.