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Showing posts with label Sierra Kills. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Sierra Kills. Show all posts

Wednesday, 6 November 2013

Bizzare Zoology and the Sierra Kills story

Jay Cooney has issued a position statement about Justin Smeja and the Sierra Kills story:
http://bizarrezoology.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-notice-regarding-kills-related.html?spref=fb

In which he says he now feelsthat the story alleging that Justin Smeja killed a mother and child bigfoot while out hunting (the so-called "Sierra Kills" story) does not appear to be genuine and does not watrrant his continued interest or publications of the news stories, as based on the current status of the evidence that has been advanced in favour of the report (DNA analysis of the so-called "Bigfoot steak" sample, which has the DNA of a common bear)



And I would like to go on record as agreeing with him. The story does not warrant any further attention or publicity.

Please note that the illustration is copyright Robert Lindsay, as indicated, and it has been altered from the original for the purpose of satire by an editorial cartoonist.

Wednesday, 26 December 2012

Bigfoot Evidence: Reply to the DNA Analysis


Ok, so it has been concluded that the species of origin that is the major contributor of nuclear and mitochondrial DNA in Justin Smeja's sample is a female black bear, Ursus americanus. The sample also yielded human mitochondrial DNA-- Justin Smeja's DNA. Even though the tissue sample was recovered 5 weeks after the shooting of the two Bigfoots, it was likely that the flesh could have belonged to other animals in the area, including bear or coyote. Many people, including myself hoped that the tissue would turn out to be an unknown primate of some sort. When Smeja returned to the scene to recover the body, the place was under a 3-4 feet of snow, and unfortunately, the tissue was all he was able recover. It was discovered on a slope near a tree stump a few yards from where he hid the juvenile's body.

Independant DNA Analysis of Smeja "Steak" From Sierra Kills



From this it seems definite that the same sample analysed had two sets of mitochondrial DNA, one human of presumably European ancestry and the other female black bear, with the bear DNA predominant and the sex of the human DNA donor not determined, but most likely from more than one human donor because parts of the sequences do not match up between tested samples.

I would definitely go for contamination in this case. And as one commentator has noted, there is no way to know for certain that this steak came from whatever it was Justin had shot at, it was found later when Smeja and others went back to look for remains after he had left the bodies in the first place. But one thing is certain, the sample does NOT represent a crossbreeding of a human and a bear!

 Best Wishes, Dale D.

Thursday, 25 October 2012

Bigfoot Evidence Sierra Kills story

Bigfoot  Evidence

Justin Smeja and his friend, "The Driver" said they were out bear hunting in October 2010 near Haskel Peak. Little did they know that it was going to be the hunting trip that will change their lives. When they pulled up to a dead end on a dirt road, they saw something that "didn't look right". They had no idea that what Justin would be shooting were Bigfoots. Watch how the driver describes the event:

Thursday, 16 August 2012

What If Justin Smeja Failed The Polygraph Exam?

Bigfoot Evidence

From Our Forum: What If Justin Smeja Failed The Polygraph Exam?

Wednesday, August 15, 2012



Here's something to think about for you skeptics. It is said that lie detectors can be fooled and that the 99 percent accuracy level means nothing. Justin Smeja recently beat a Limestone Polygraph instrument, one of the most accurate ones out there, and it's used by the government. Even after Justin's polygraph results showed that he was telling the truth, some are still claiming that lie detectors are flawed and that anyone can fool a polygraph.

Here's the question that was posted on our forum earlier today: What if Justin failed the polygraph exam? Would skeptics accept the polygraph results and say that they knew he was lying all along?

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Wednesday, 15 August 2012

Justin Smeja: What We All Think About His Story

Justin Smeja: What We All Think About His Story

Wednesday, August 15, 2012

Guy Edwards sent us several questions to answer about our opinion on Justin Smeja's recent polygraph results. Whether the story is true or not, those involved in the investigation have become even more convinced that something did happen in October 2010. To those who are still on the fence about everything, you have to admit that it's a damn good story and it begs to be documented and retold.
Examination Video

Go check out Guy Edward's article about our thoughts on the matter. The questions were sent to Bart Cutino, Me, Ro Sahebi, and Carl Olinselot.

Click here to read at Bigfoot Lunch Club

Tuesday, 7 August 2012

Rick Dyer Reports Justin Smeja To The California DFG

http://sasquatchscoop.blogspot.com/2012/08/rick-dyer-reports-justin-smeja-to.html?spref=fb


Rick Dyer Reports Justin Smeja To The California DFG

In Rick Dyer's latest video he explains how he has contacted the California Department of Fish and Game and reported Justin Smeja and the alleged Bigfoot shootings. In a previous article, I asked Justin if he had been contacted by any authorities. Justin stated that the DFG did not seem interested but that they had been to his residence. Dyer stated that the DFG will open a full investigation. It seems now that Rick is a California citizen, he feels it is his duty to report Smeja. Here is Rick's video.

Monday, 16 July 2012

A Conversation With Justin Smeja: I Killed Bigfoot [Free Documentary]

A Conversation With Justin Smeja: I Killed Bigfoot [Free Documentary]

From Bigfoot Evidence. If it's a Free Documentary, It's worth re-posting.

Monday, July 16, 2012


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Last June, it was reported that a bear hunter in Northern California shot and killed two Bigfoots. One Bigfoot he shot was an adult and the other one was a juvenile that died in the his arms after being shot. According to the story, the hunter said the Bigfoots appeared sometimes on two legs and sometimes on four legs. They got aggressive with him and moved very close to him. At one point, one got on a ledge above him and seemed to be threatening him. He shot it out of fear it was going to attack him.
For a period of time no one knew if the story was true, but then Derek Randles of the Olympic Project released an official statement correcting some of the "misinformation" circulating the Bigfoot community. That official statement from Randles set the stage for what is now called the "Sierra Kills".

Justin Smeja, a hunter from Sacramento, CA was out bear hunting near Gold Lake with his friend (the driver) back in October 2010. This is his story:




Selected Replies
  1. For what it's worth, the text accompanying this entry (he shot in self-defense, they ran on all fours) is incorrect. IF this actually happened, he clearly states he shot from a distance at a non-hostile target. The "creature" ran on all fours because it had been wounded.
  2. Smeja is nothing but a poacher and an opportunistic pot grower in an economically depressed part of California. He has nothing to lose, in terms of a good reputation in his community, so there's no impetus for him to not tell bullshit tales like this one.

    He's a redneck bullshitter who eventually told a story that pushed the same kind of emotional buttons that the Georgia hoaxers pushed. He saw how his bullshit story attracted some attention, and brought him some money, so he kept pushing that button and he kept refining his story.

    He made up the whole story. The incident did not happen.
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the bigfoot steak actualy looks kinda like the hair of hovey's pic. i want to hear his friends side and want to have ro's live to be able to drink and interview is my dream lol
4.
Thanks for the interview and asking great questions. I am on the fence with whether he is telling the truth or him lying to make money. Polygraph and DNA results will tip the scales. My only question is what of the other guy who was with Justin? Where is he? And what is his side of the story?
--As to the last question the other fella has been interviewed and has made a statement. It has been printed on this blog in an earlier entry. And as to the DNA results, I have been in not exactly close but friendly communication with Melba Ketcham and her secretary Sally Ramey almost the whole time this incident has been in the news and  both the samples and the DNA results arising from it are all too real.
Best Wishes, Dale D.

String of Messages from the Facebook Group Ohio Bigfoot Hunters:
Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot
Has it occurred to anybody that Justin Smeja is a cold blooded killer? I've been a hunter all my life and I know what kind a person it would take to kill something that's not on the menu. Just my thought.
Tim Mitchell, Pat Camp, Larry Wentz and 7 others like this..

Dale Drinnon Believe me, we've been discussing that aspect of the case for months now. The last time I posted on the matter, I got postings on my timeline saying so
6 hours ago · Like.

Billy Elder from day one
6 hours ago · Like.

Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot Ya it's sad. If true than I can't imagine what was going thru that Bigfoots mind when the gun was aimed at it. 6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1.

Billy Elder i am listening to joe rogan talk with BoBo about this and it sucks 6 hours ago · Like · 1.

Kevin Foley Not sure whether or not this joker killed anything worth talking about?...Does any one realy have any proof of this incedent? Tim, you are a known BF researcher..."do you believe this incedentr really happened"? I think he killed a local animal....not anytrhing else....Give me proof! 6 hours ago · Like · 2.

Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot Kevin I will never believe until I see the body. DNA will not satisfy me either. I know they exist and if this clown is telling the truth than I consider it murder. 6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 3.

Kevin Foley BTW, we have listened to this "made up" story for over a year now...and not ONE solid piece of evidence has been issued regarding the so called (2) kill BF in Northern california. Can we move on and declare the so called Smeja "murder" declared as a false incident"! In other words BULLSHIT story! 6 hours ago · Like · 1.

Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot Sounds good to me 6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1.
Kevin Foley Love your work Tim...always happy to review your vids, and audio 6 hours ago · Like · 1.
Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot Thanks Kevin 6 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1.

Dan Baker Tim, for the record,if he did indeed kill two Sasquatches and they are hominids, then in my opinion it was nothing less than 1st degree murder. We Do however, need the proof which eludes all of us at this time. 5 hours ago · Like · 1.

Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot I agree Dan 5 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1.

Dan Baker I will never be pro-kill when it comrs to bigfoot. 5 hours ago · Like · 1.

Dan Baker I mean comes. 5 hours ago · Like · 1.

Dale Drinnon Another thing to add to that-preliminary DNA tests on the samples provided say they ARE human. So going by that much, no doubt, he is 100% guilt of first-defgree murder. AND he is guilty of first degree murder NO MATTER WHAT HIS STORY IS, when he provides that as a sample of whatever it was he had killed. I point out frequenntly he could "Only" have killed an ordinary woman with excessively aboundant pubic hair and just cut a swatch out of her hairiest part. DEFINITELY murder in that case, and pretty sick one at that. 5 hours ago · Like · 4.

Keith Miller I thought that my self. 5 hours ago · Like · 1.

Fox Flinginpoopen that has been my opinion all along tim 5 hours ago · Like · 1.

Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop ‎Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot, I don't think he killed any Bigfoot. if you watched Ro's interview it appears very clear to me. You were a hunter so you know that you never shoot what you can't identify. in one part of the interview he claims that he shot the juvenile and then his buddy came down the hill . So he wants us to believe he shot the kid when he didn't know his buddy's location. NO hunter I know of would ever pull the trigger without being certain of their friends location. Smeja was a very experianced hunter, I heard that he was even a bear hunting guide. His story just don't stand up in my opinion. 5 hours ago · Like · 3.

Fox Flinginpoopen he just sounded smarmy and smartass to me 5 hours ago · Like · 2.

Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot Well said Steve! 5 hours ago via mobile · Like · 1.

Keith Miller ‎Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop: I know what you mean I have passed up shots on deer because I wasn't sure if it had horns or not. A true hunter wont shoot anything he can't identify. 4 hours ago · Like · 1.

Fox Flinginpoopen he sounds like a jerk that would shoot anything that moves, has no respect for life at all. if i shot a bigfoot, even if it was tryna kill my little ass, i would still feel guilty for the rest of my life 4 hours ago · Like · 2.

Mike Fonte I dont think i believe the guy at all 4 hours ago via mobile · Like.

Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop ‎Keith Miller, exactly! I don't hunt but know many hunters, all of them have told me that the wont shoot unless they are certain. They even count the points on the deer to make sure it's legal. There are some bad hunters out there but even they wont shoot unless they know what they are shooting. If your buddy is screaming don't shoot because it might be a guy in a suit you sure as hell aint gonna shoot, if you do you deserve a special place in hell. Tim Stover TcsjrBigfoot, can tell you better than any one what goes through your mind when in a circumstance like this, he didn't shoot. Many hunters say they couldn't shoot even if they wanted too because it looked too human. Smeja is either a liar or one of the most dispicable human beings around. My opinion. 4 hours ago · Like · 1.

Ed Wiland This guy is a blooming idiot. Had this been in Georgia where I was an ACO, I would have kept him on the radar. I would have been hot on his heals................ What a putz!!!!!!!!!!! 3 hours ago · Like.

Tim Mitchell i want to talk to his friend who was with him and killed people in combat and knows what is a threat and what isnt. 2 hours ago · Like.

Fox Flinginpoopen well from wut he said his friend was saying, it didnt look like a threat to him. he was saying dont shoot 2 hours ago · Like.

Tim Mitchell exactly that is why i would want to talk to him. he knew it wasnt a threat and had no need to be shot 2 hours ago · Like.

Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop ‎Tim Mitchell, The adult was alegedly shot from the truck so no real threat there, as far as the juvenile he didn't really say why he felt threatened. I am currently reading the entire thread on the taxidermy forum that Smeja originaly posted to, it is 57 pages and I am on page 23. 32 minutes ago · Like.

Tim Mitchell well let me know when you are done with it. i dont know if you caught joe rogans podcast with bobo last night but they talked about it in the beginning 30 minutes ago · Like.

Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop Yep, I listened to it today. Bobo dissapoints me with his support of Smeja and Ketchum, other than that it was good. 24 minutes ago · Like.

Tim Mitchell i was kinda surprised that he was out with meldrum looking for the bodies. still i want to find his friend and talk to him. he is the missing link to the story since they have no body 21 minutes ago · Like.

Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop Funny, Smeja never posted in that original thread that he killed a Bigfoot, he described it as a funny looking bear, then no mention of a juvenile until another person brought it up a couple weeks later. Apparently he spoke to another guy on the phone and told him the story, a couple weeks later the guy posted what Smeja told him. Smeja posted that he wished the guy would not have done that. 19 minutes ago · Like.

Tim Mitchell hmm for all we know maybe they just paid his dumbass to take the rap for what someone else might have did and that's why he couldnt find the bodies. one more question how the hell did he find the steak and no bone attached to it? 17 minutes ago · Like.

Steve Alcorn SasquatchScoop I dont know Tim it's all just an odd story. 16 minutes ago · Like.
Fox Flinginpoopen too many holes in it i reckon 16 minutes ago · Like · 1.

Tim Mitchell i was told i could talk to justin myself and i might just take that person up on it just to hear it for myself and ask the questions i want to ask. not that ro did a bad job. it just left me with a lot of other questions 15 minutes ago · Like.

XXXXXXXXXXXX I am just going to attempt to message him and see what I get. here is the link to the taxidermy forum, you have to register to read it. Night folks. http://www.taxidermy.net/​forum/index.php/​topic,238666.0.html
www.taxidermy.net Taxidermy Net Forum interactive bulletin board for the taxidermy industry, with over 10,000 unique visitors each day..
11 minutes ago · Like.

I cut the string at the point where more sensitive information was being posted.

Further update on story:
http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/first-major-news-article-on-sierra-kills.html?spref=fb