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Friday, 27 January 2012

Jadesquatch and Crystal Wildman Skull Carvings
[Some of the Jade and Crystal Skull material comes from this site.}
Above is a jade mask from Mongolia which seems to be similar in many respects to other masks from the area: one such mask was illustrated by Ivan Sanderson as remarked upon by Russian scientists and a reconstruction done from it. I take all such masks to represent the largest form of "Yeti", and the same thing as the Sasquatch in the Western coast of North America and the Rocky Mountains. In this case, the teeth are stylized and the top of the head left vague, but it has a distinctly apelike nose and placement of the eye sockets. The teeth are variably depicted in such masks, and may be shown as either fanged or even-topped.
I have spoken before about jade and crystal skull and skeleton representations from both China (and surrounding territories) and from Mexico as affording good indirect proof of Sasquatch on both sides of the bering straits, and that they not only indicate the people are independantly portraying the same thing, the same thing they are depicting seems to be Gigantopithecus. This is mostly because the jaw seems to match (the jaw is the only directly available part of Giganto we can compare directly) but that the skull faces as portrayed seem to correspond to the full skull reconstruction made by Grover Krantz (photos below, casts can be obtained through Bone Clones) In this case I have what is purportedly another ancient jade skull-mask from Mongolia above, and some very ornate little agate skulls from Mexico on sale on Ebay.
The little agate skulls may not be authentically ancient, but I have seen other ones like it from California (mount Shasta) and other regions which leads me to believe the design is authentic and counts as Folk-art if not Precolumbian. The carved jade full skeleton statue illustrated below IS authentic and the shape of the skulls should be compared. Notable is the fact that the top of the head is a cone, or "Mountain-shaped" in the terminology of cranial deformation. In the profile view at left, the high zigzag of the zygomatic arch is unusual and it should be compared to the high zygomatic on Krantz's Gigantopithecus reconstruction.

Above: Bone Clones cast of Gigantopithecus reconstruction by Grover Krantz, and the jaw separately below.

Authentic Aztec jade statue of skeletonized god Xolotl. I had published this before in a B&W xeroxed reproduction. Notice the very apelike head yet very human shaped hands and feet. Presumably a Mexican Bigfoot or something very much like it.

One very interesting Crystal Skull was found in the private collection of a former museum owner in Berlin. It has a date of 1917 for its acquisition and it is supposedly a Mayan crystal skull from Central america. On the other hand, it looks strikingly like the skull of a fossil human, and resembles reconstructions which were only made much later than the WWI era:

Crystal Skull Found in Berlin

We would like to show this outstanding crystal skull, full of energy and power.
If you look at it you see the “whole universe” in it.
The head looks very alien and is made out of an piece rock crystal.
It looks very antique and highest quality handmade.
The head was restored in former times.
The crystal skull is 7 x 12 x 7 cm. (about 3 inches by 3 inches by 5 inches)
It bears a writing of a collection “Inv. 23.J(T?) 1917 A v Bode”. The whole object is definitely old and could be in the private collection of Arnold Wilhelm von Bode, the famous German museum director.
If somebody could send us further informations, that would be very helpful.
Thank you Martin

The same skull is featured on several other sites and has attracted a lot of internet attention, but there seems to be very little information to be added to what is stated here. It does appear to be authentic, very old, out of the collection of a museum long since defunct, and unlike anything that would ordinarily have been produced in the era which is was reportedly found in. On the other hand it also DOES match several purportedly NEOLITHIC aged skulls from Mongolia, Centtral Asia and Tibet (for which more later)

Above on the right are some photos of skulls and reconstructed skulls of Homo erectus and Neanderthals to compare with the Berlin Crystal skull. The different skulls are used because the similarities to one type or another depend on the different views. Below are some reference illustrations comparing the skulls of Peking Man (a female), Neanderthal Man (a male) and a modern human (also a female). One of the pitfalls in older diagrams of this type is that different sexes will be casually set down next to one another, and the differences between the sexes in such ypes as Neanderthals and erectus can be quite pronounced, including especially the absolute size.

This is another set of Chinese Neolithic nephrite jade skulls which appear to be similar to the Mayan crystal skull from Berlin above, and which likewise seems to exhibit the anatomy of a primitive type.

Ancient Skulls
The Himalaya, Mongolia and Maya Connection
What is the connection, if any, between ‘ancient’ or ‘old’ Central American and Himalayan crystal skulls?

Ancient Neolithic Mongolian Jade Skull

Ancient Semi-Nomadic Goddess Based Shamanic Mongolian Tribes

Oriental Roots: Mongolia and Tibet; 8,000 BCE to 0BC
~ Late Neolithic Era through the Legendary Period and into Historic Time ~

New archaeological evidence has now proven that the matriarchal, Goddess based, semi-nomadic tribes that roamed the area between Tibet and Mongolia, were possibly the first societies to carve stones and crystals into skulls by approximately 10,000 BCE. These ancient Neolithic people were the first to begin carving stone into objects of both utility and art. Since it is generally accepted by the scientific community that many of the oriental groups migrated to the new world, it can be assumed that they brought much of their culture, ceremonies and art with them, including the making and use of crystal and stone skulls in sacred rituals.

The Chinese civilization spans a vast expanse of time, from before the Three Kings and Five Emperors to the present. It is a miracle of human creativity and civilization. The “Culture of Jade” is closely linked to the development of Central Asia. Confucius said that a gentleman is judged by the quality of his jade. Not only was jade more valuable than gold, but the design of jade wares varied according to social status.

The oldest jade ware discovered dates back to 8000+ years ago. It is a jade dagger excavated at the Relic Pyramid of Hu in Shanxi Province. The largest pieces of stone carving took 10 years for the artists of Yangzhou to complete. Some of these early pieces are on display at the British Museum, London, England.

The Neolithic Culture, from 8,000 to 4,500 BCE, is one of the earliest and most advanced civilizations discovered, to date, in China. This culture was mainly located in the land area between Inner Mongolia and present day Liaoning and Hebei provinces (new evidence reveals possible settlements in the Yangtze River area).

The jade people were “Goddess Based, Matriarchal, Semi-Nomadic, Shamanic Cultures” consisting of several tribal groups located within the western Liaohe river valley to the Dalinghe river valley and the northern bank of the Bohai Bay, south of the Yanshan Mountain. The tribes that pre-date the LiangZhu period have not been officially named and are only referred to as Late Neolithic ~ 8,000 to 4,500 BCE. Many of their ancient sites are just newly discovered, due to a large Chinese government dam and infrastructure project that has now begun to flood these ancient ceremonial centers. These centers were used for over 6,500 years and contain hundreds of thousands of tombs. Archaeologists raced quickly to collect as much information as possible before these sites were destroyed. Artifacts from these tombs and ceremonial areas span many ages and style changes from the oldest (8,000 BCE) to the youngest (Historic era, beginning 0 CE) Archaeological strata.

The Niuheliang site belongs to the late period of LiangZhu culture, 3,500 BCE. Located at the three loess mountain ridges which stretches about 10 km at the valley of Nuluerhu Mountain, where Jianping county and Lingyuan county of Chaoyang city meet. The Goddess Temples, the Sacrificial Altars and the Stone Platform Mound groups are distributed regularly across the rolling hills about 10,000m across from east to west and about 5,000m from north to south. These platform mounds form a large scale pre-historic ceremonial and sacrificial site complex that stands alone, beyond the residential area. Niuheliang is located in the center of a network leading to all the regions of the Hong Shan area, now called the Northeast River District. It is imbued with all the characteristics of a very sacred place ~ a political, trade and ceremonial center. The Ancient Shamanic people were builders of temples, pyramids and cities, who created some of the earliest nephrite jade and stone carvings. Their sophisticated carving techniques employed technologies that exceeded simple explanations.

[The Neolithic Mongolian skull at larger size below. I have previously published a finer example as definitive proof that the Mongolian Almas is a surviving Neanderthal: there are also Neanderthal-like teeth that bolster that theory, and they range up to possibly at least as recent as 1000 BC-DD]
[The premise that the chinese and Mesoamerican crystal and Jade skulls are culturally related is probable: however since the skulls are also featured on nephrite figural celts and West Indian Zemis, I would expect that it was an Atlantean tradition which both areas subsequently picked up. There was probably some later mutual reinforcement through transPacific contact. but the original culture that stated it was old, old, at the beginning of the Neolithic and quite probably before the 8000-10000 years ago estimated here. It also does seem that the jade and crystal skulls in both Central Asia (including Mongolia and Tibet) as well as in Mesoamerica include anatomically correct to anatomically approximate depictions of TWO types of relic hominids: one resembling Peking Man Homo erectus or the Neanderthalers, and the other resembling Gigantopithecus, up until possibly what we count as the Viking Age in Europe. -DD]

Representation of a "Monkey-Man" or "Howler Monkey" (Baatz) chewing on a snake at temple II at Copan, one of two at the site and both the most clear depiction of the living type in Mayan artwork.

Ivan Sanderson spoke of the possibility of BOTH "Peking Man" and Gigantopithecus as crossing the Bering land bridge BEFORE any of the more usual humans we would recognise did so: and in the case of these sculpted skulls and their fully-fleshed counterpart representations, I think we have evidence for both categories of "Abominables" on both sides of the Pacific (allowing that the Almas type is sometimes interprested to be a Neanderthaler and sometimes more like erectus. A quick glance at the skull of Peking Man does show that its contours are surprisingly like a smaller version of the Neanderthal)
Please also see the Appendix from Sanderson at the bottom of this posting.

It is probably of some significance that the Mayan Mythology recognises several successive creations and destructions of the world. We are the Fourth World and the one before us was the Third World, destroyed ina deluge. The people of the Third World were made out of wood ("Winik-Te" or Persons of Wood) and the survivors were turned into monkeys and went to live in the woods. Then current humanity was created out of corn. That the modern agricultural Mayas were "Made out of Corn" is merely a restatement of "You are what you eat", but in this case I think that the original meaning of the "People of Wood" was that they were "People who lived in the Woods", a pretty common name for Wildmen, Woodwoses or Salvages (Literally Foresters). And so I think the tradition of "Monkey People" is a duisguised reference to Wildmen or Apemen. In South America they would be called Didis, Maricoxi, or even Salvages once again. Ivan Sanderson wrote an important paper in the journal Genus at one time concerning the South American types, and in it he stated his conviction that the descriptions applied to relic Neanderthal men. Austin Whittall on the other hand believes them  to be residuals of Homo erectus and adduces several pieces of Aboriginal art (including faces/portraits) and even records of recognised Archaeologically-obtained fossil skulls which seem to fall into the same general type. Going by the German Crystal Skull in question, there are some views wich are strikingly Neanderthal-like and others which are strikingly erectus-like, in particular resembling so-called Java Man. The monkeys which the Mayan Antediluvians turned into were Black Howler Monkeys or "B'aats", but the word also means "Ancestors." I would suggest the word is mis-applied, the usual Maya word for Monkey is Chuen. I also suspect that there is some confusion between a more manlike creature and a more apelike one in the information presumably pertaining to the Sisimite, much as in the case of the Didi; and in fact it might be useful to think of the Mayan Monkey-Men as being contiguous to the Didis of Northern South America.

And it does seem odd to me that some archaeologists have come down so hard on even the very idea that Mayans even made Crystal Skulls. There are certainly skulls in different kinds of stone and jade at all sizes from very small to above-lifesize, and some of the purported Crystal skulls seem to be genuine (see above) The ones we are calling legitimate are stylistically close to some of the ones which are called fakes on mere assumption that there were no Mayan crystal skulls and they must be fakes. However there is even a specific name in the Mayan language which means "Crystal Skull" and it is Pet Jol. This is clearly distinguished from ordinary skulls or even skulls carved of ordinary stone.  Best Wishes, Dale D.

APPENDIX: Another Mayan "Monkey" Skull in the News
"A toothy Mayan skull, made of limestone and in the shape of a monkey head, is set to go on display at a Maya exhibition at the Royal Ontario Museum in Toronto Canada.
But unlike the famous crystal skulls, which are widely regarded as fake, this one is believed to be real.
The skull is roughly life-size and small enough that you can hold it in your hands. It has eight inlaid white teeth made of shell in two groups of four, with a black["gold"] tooth made of iron pyrite in the middle. The mouth of the skull is wide open, and the eyes may have originally had shells in them."

APPENDIX: Sanderson on the distribution of the Sasquatch, from Abominable Snowmen: Legend Come to Life
 p. 370

What could the Neo-Giants be and why should they have the apparently extraordinary distribution that they are alleged to have? At first both questions sound unanswerable but both are really amenable to very simple suggestions. Some years ago (1937) one Dr. von Koenigswald was searching through bottles of old fossil bones and teeth in a Chinese apothecary's store in Hong Kong when he came across a human molar tooth that was at least ten times in volume that of any ever grown by a man. And thus started the affair of what has been named Gigantopithecus, an enormous something, that once inhabited south China and left its bones in limestone caves. The controversy about this creature has been extensive and intense. Dr. Koenigswald's associate, Prof. Weidenreich, named the tooth Gigantopithecus, which means the giant "monkey" or by license "ape," rather than Gigantothropus or the Giant Man, because he was a very conservative and ultra-cautious soul. However, even before further remains of the brute had been found, other leading scholars stated that it was misnamed and was definitely a Hominid. [I had the privilege of examining the tooth all one afternoon in the American Museum of Natural History, and comparing it with the molars of all manner of men, current and fossil, and with apes, and for what my opinion is worth, it is certainly most strongly hominid.]

The tooth remained a ghastly enigma until 1956 when a Chinese farmer by the name of Chin Hsiu-Huai dug guano out of a cave in a mountain named Luntsai in Szechwan and spread it on his field. In this was found a part of a jaw with teeth of the same kind. Dr. Pei Wen-Chung, doyen of Chinese anthropologists, set up a prolonged search and found some fifty more teeth and, allegedly, a number of limb bones of the creature. He said that these indicated that it was a 12-foot tall, bipedal, carnivorous [sic] ape, than which there could hardly be a longer list of non sequiturs. Its teeth are utterly human, not just humanoid or hominid; if it walked erect, it was not an

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ape—not at that size and weight; and if it was carnivorous [which its teeth do not at all indicate] it was, again, not an ape as that seems to be just about the only distinguishing thing about the diet of that group—they are all profoundly herbivorous, though gibbons will take insects.

The other question debated about this brute has been whether [if it is not an ape but a Hominid], it belongs with the Pithecanthropines of North China and Java—to wit: Sinanthropus, Pithecanthropus, and the giant Meganthropus. This is not really very important to us but the manifest fact that it was a Hominid and not a Pongid is so, and leads to certain potent observations. If it was really that size, or even over six feet tall, it must have been a terrestrial creature, and if it was an ape it would have walked on all fours like the gorilla. Nothing that size can travel by treetops. If it was not an ape, it started out with the hominid type of foot, which is what is called plantigrade, and neither it nor its ancestors ever needed to develop a specialized great toe, which was opposed and worked like a thumb. Thus, this creature, primitive as it may have been, probably had a very human type of foot on which to support its immense bulk. Whatever it was, it lived in what is now southern China.

Now let us look at Map X. This area is a part of Orientalia, and is today subtropical. The mountains that surround it are those of the Indo-Chinese Massif and of the Szechwan Block. These areas are the lands of the Dzu-Tehs, Toks, Kung-Lus, and Gin-Sungs—the huge, furred "bear-men" or "men-bears" of ancient Chinese, Mongolian, and Tibetan legend and of current ABSM lighters. But then comes another thing. What else lives in and previously lived in this area? This is the land of the Metasequoia, of the raccoons called pandas, of certain curious little insectivorous mammals, of several odd amphibians, and of numerous invertebrates including a lot of most rare and odd parasitic forms. And where else, if anywhere, are any of these or their only relatives found today? In the northwestern part of North America!

There is still a continuous causeway of mountains from Szechwan all the way [to the west of China proper] to and

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through Manchuria to eastern Siberia. Because of increasing altitude toward the south (see Chapter 18), this is clothed in the same type of montane forest all the way. The same kinds of forest start again on the other side of the paltry Bering Strait, in Alaska, and continue on down in an almost unbroken chain to Tierra del Fuego at the very bottom end of South America. Moreover, sometime during the recent ice-advances and retreats, all manner of Siberian animals crossed over to the New World—like the Brown Bears, the Moose, the Elk, and others; and finally, the Amerinds, and then the Eskimos, did so too. Why on earth, should or could not a large sub-hominid also have done so, and simply by following the richly stocked montane forests all the way? That low temperatures could have prevented or even dissuaded them from doing so is just not valid, for, if the Dzu-Tehs are their living representatives, they can travel in snow without any trouble, and crossing the Bering Straits [even without a land-bridge due to alterations in sea level or elevation of the land], is no problem, for you can always walk across the ice in winter. It looks, therefore, very much as if Bernard Heuvelmans might have been right when he suggested that the largest type of ABSM in northern Orientalia could be a descendant of the Gigantopithecus, and the bolder his suggestion seems now, when it is realized that at that time (1952) the consensus was that that creature was an ape.


  1. What did the Annunaki really look like?

  2. If the Annunaki are defined as the Gods of Mesopotamia, then they looked like what the Mesopotamians imagined their Gods to be. If you define them as Reptoid Pretenders, they looked like Reptoids. It all depends on what you believe them to have been.

  3. I met someone recently who claims to have a friend who walks around with an 8,000 year old jade crystal skull. I've seen photos of it, and it has some strange carvings on the top, like snakes, but seems to be language. It also has some very strange 'nostrils'. Much as I'd like to believe my friend, I also believe anything this old and rare would be priceless and hard to find.

    Any comments?

  4. We know from recent excavations that Neolithic Chinese settlements 8000 years old not only made a LOT of jade artifacts, including skulls, we also know that such things contine to be faked up to the present day because the are perceived as rare and valuable collectables. The bottom line is, most laymen will not be able to tell just from looking and they would need to have such an artifact examined by an expert. One thing though, jade skulls and crystal skulls are two different things and the jade ones are fairl common while the rock crystal ones are much rarer because the crystal is so much harder to work. But if you are merely asking if it is possible for there to be carved and polished objects 8000 years old-including skulls-the answer is definitely yes (that is about 6000 BC and Neolithic cultures were all over the place by then): if you are asking if anybody could tell if a piece is genuine without examining it, the answer would be,probably NOT. But there's no way of knowing without having the thing examined directly by a professional familiar with such things. I have heard from dealers on ebay that 2/3 of the supposed ancient jade artifacts coming onto the market these days are probably faked.


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