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Tuesday, 6 November 2012

REPOSTING: Congo Dragons And The Colossal Confusions Over The Colossal Beasts

Reprinted By Popular Demand:

Congo Dragons And The Colossal Confusions Over The Colossal Beasts

[Originally Posted Tuesday, 19 April 2011]

 

Sao culture Terracotta, Lake Chad "Monster", probably a giant monitor lizard the same as the "Giant Ethiopian Lizard" seen more recently. The Shilluk in the Sudan refer to it as a "Smooth crocodile" and fetish wooden sculptures of "Congo Dragons" also have this same form of head.
Roman Era mosaic of a large monitor lizard in Ethiopia, labelled as a "Crocodilopardus" (Crocodile-Leopard) This is possibly a later survival of the creature depicted on the Narmer pallete and known in later Egyptian iconography as the Sechet, similar to the Sirrush of Mesopotamia. The corresponding unknown giant water-monitor in Mesopotamia in more modern times is known as "Afa" according to Eberhart, who also lists the "Giant Ethiopian Lizard" as a Cryptid Category.
In reviewing Raheel Mughal's list of Lesser-known cryptids, we now come to the last one, and we actually get to the crux of the matter of the "Congo Dragons." (10)Nguma-monene: An African Naga? Also known as Ngakoula-ngou or Badigui, in all aspects this serpentine cryptid sounds very similar to the Nagas reported for centuries in Asia. The Nguma-monene is described as being 10 metres long (atleast the tail part which is often reported), it is described as greyish-brown in colouration with the underneath of the neck a lighter shade. The neck is also described as being as thick as a man's thigh. Two credible eyewitness accounts exist which both occurred near the Dongu-Mataba (a tributary of the Ubangi River located in the Congo region). The first was occurred in 1961. Nevertheless, in 1971 Joseph Ellis a pastor had an incredible encounter with a beast he could not identify. He estimated the length of the (visible) tailpart as 10 meters long (equal to his dugout, no neck or head could be seen), this was at a diameter of 0.5 to 1 metre. The colouration of the creature appeared to be a greyish-brown. When Pastor Ellis returned to the village he started asking natives about the strange creature, to his amazement it appeared that the subject was taboo. Dr. Roy, P. Mackal collected many reports of this and other cryptids whilst on his first and second expedition in search of Mokele Mbembe. Dr. Mackal concluded that the animal has a low-slung body, and therefore is more like a lizard than a snake, perhaps an intermediatery between snakes and lizards, a possible “living fossil.” Dr. Mackal also noted that the animal's triangular or diamond-shaped ridges were similar (but smaller) to those from the Mbeilu-Mbeilu-Mbeilu but not the animals themselves. This issue has caused much confusion on the Internet and Dr. Mackal’s seminal work A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-Mbembe.


To which I added the comment:
10)Nguma-monene was originally counted the same as Mokele-Mbembe and later as a giant monitor lizard. Perhaps both things are true.


Which does not resolve the basic tangle over what the Mokele-Mbembe is or what the Congo Dragon is in general. Actually, both terms are vague enough that they can be used commonly to refer to such creatures as "Water-Elephants" and "Water-Rhinos" as well as to snakelike or lizardliks creatures. And most sources do not also indicate that similar or the same sorts of creatures as The Mokele-Mbembe and Nguma-Monene are reported (in Folklore or as actual "Reports") in Nigeria and including the Niger River also. I have a record of names similar to "Badigui" being used in central Nigeria also. Other variations on the name "Mokele-Mbembe" include the spellings of Le'kela-Mbembe, Mbokalemuembe, Mbulu-em'Bembe or M'koo-m'bemboo, Moke'-Nbe and Nwe. In this regard it is perhaps useful to mention that the word for "Demon" used in the Kongamato blog entry (and as opposed to the Kongamato in that case) was mulombe, possibly also one source for the name 'Mulilo'

And even given that we are limiting ourselves to the long-necked reptillian sorts of reports there are important variations which are often glossed over. The legs are said to be elephant-like and connected to the round-but-three-toed tracks, or else they are flippers shaped like diamond-shaped canoe paddles used in that region. And the creatures can be described as herbivores but sometimes said to eat fish instead. Other than that, their fearsome reputation comes from the allegation that the commonly kill elephants, hippos, crocodiles, manatees and attack canoes, killing the people inside them, presumably because the creature mistakes them for rivals. I would question the idea that it kills other creatures on the premise that it mistakes them for rivals of its own species simply because rivalries within a single species are designed NOT to be generally fatal to either of the participants. So I would make a distinction that the Water-Rhinos are known to kill elephants and hippos when times are bad and feeding grounds are at stake, but the longer-necked creatures do not kill them, they have gained guilt by confusion of the categories. And while the flipper-footed fish-eater has no interest in dead hippos or other creatures, the long and low-slung lizard is an opportunsit feeder and a scavenger OR a fruit-eater as the opportunity presents itself, and therefore it is the one to be seen snagging snacks off of lianas and the one hanging around large animal corpses. It is doubtful if it has the capacity to kill them in a direct conflict, but the lizard could easily wipe out crocodiles in small areas by eating the crocodile's eggs. Furthermore, it seems the larger lizard is a type of monitor lizard like a Komodo dragon, and it does kill the commoner but smaller Nile monitor in areas where their ranges coincide. That much is possibly a valuable indicator as to its identity.


This "Little Gold Dinosaur" was featured in one of a trio of "Living Dinosaur" articles in PURSUIT of January 1970, Vol. 3, No. 1, which is the first PURSUIT I still have from my original membership with the SITU; I had joined about then. Speculation was that this little figurine found by Manny Staub in a set of Ashanti balance-scale weights represented a two-legged dinosaur such as an Iguanodon or possibly a Tyrannosaur, but I think it is more likely a sort of a Komodo dragon caricature. Whatever it is, it is standing firmly on all four legs.

The Ashanti gold figurine continues to be reproduced over the internet, but the third article in this set seems to have gone largely forgotten (The first article concerns a rock art "Brontosaurus" from near Salisbury, South Africa) The third article is entitled "He Have Head for Trunk" and it is on pages 16 and 17 of that issue. The report concerns an expedition in the land that was then called Dahomey (in 1959) along a tributary of the Oueme River called locally the N'gode or N'gobe. The carriers suddenly refused to go on into a swamp and threatened to abandon the expedition, so that the expedition all agreed to return with the bearers to their home village, where they were greeted as if they had all returned from the dead. The Chief explained in Pidgin-English repeated and deciphered in the article:


"'For de middle of dis big land-water (swamp) dere be water-water big too much; an' for dis water-water (lake) live plenty Water-Elephant. Dis Water-elephant no be brother for land-elephant. (1) He be much big past land-elephant. He no have trunk for head, but head for trunk. (2) Trunk come from body, and on end is head small-small past land-Elephant. (3) Front feet is like pirogue paddles, flat, and him make swim fast. Back feet I never see nohow, but have, mebbe? But tail too long and big like body, near body. (4) Behind, tail much like koboko (whip). He no chop'em people but chop 'em grass and small-small tree; but no like 'em people. Come out for water onetime and roll 'em people for ground, and make (look) like blanket; then take 'em for water, but no chop'em'" The creature was called in this instance Moke-N'be and the report was submitted by SITU member 176. The member continued with more explanation:


"Not being overly credulous I first suspected that his description might fit a sea-cow-like critter and so I drew a dugong and a manatee from memory. Luckily he could 'see picture'...and said at once, 'De body she be much like so, but the head is for neck much too long-mebbe long past two men (5)- and de mouth she not like the mouth of a hippo but like the mouth for goanna (the Liberian-American pidgin term 'goanna=iguana' is used indiscriminately for any large monitor-like lizard)."


The footnotes are as follows: (1) This means definitely that this so-called "Water-elephant" is not an elephant at all but something quite different. The use of the word "Elephant" means simply some large animal, grey in color. (2) This is just about as explicit as one can be in any language, and means that while elephants have a trunk depending from their heads, this creature has a head at the end of what looks like a trunk....(3)This means, by African inversion of superlatives, that the head of this beast is very-very small in proportion to its body size. (4) This is a neat way of saying that it has a very long tail, but that this gets progressively thicker towards the body and finally flows into it at about the circumference of the animal's haunches...(5)This is another inversion, in that the Chief meant the neck of the "Water-Elephant" was very long; not that the neck in the drawing was too long...[Dale adds his two cents and points out that the chief indicates a length of neck at least the height of two men, or about 12 feet, minimum]

This depiction added earlier in the Plesiosaurian Taniwhas blog posting is from that general area and so this is a Moke-N'be or else some other name very like it. The "Little Gold Dinosaur" is also from the same country and this would support the notion of two distinct types of "Congo Dragons" in West Africa also.


This is Mackal's depiction of the Nguma-Monene. Under the name of Badigui, it was one of the basic catecories of reports which Heuvelmans counted the same as the Mokele-Mbembe and suggested could be a surviving dinosaur but was more likely a giant monitor lizard (On the Track of Unknown Animals, "The Dragon St. George Did Not Kill")

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nguma-monene


Nguma-monene

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nguma-monene ("large python" in Lingala language[1]) is a cryptid supposedly living in the Republic of Congo, described as being like a large lizard with a serrated ridge on its back

Sightings:

Two testimonials of sightings exist that were done near the Dongu-Mataba (tributary of the Ubangi River) in The Republic of the Congo. The first was done in 1961; the second ten years later in 1971 by pastor Joseph Ellis. He estimated the length of the (visible) tailpart as 10 meters long (equal to his dugout, no neck or head could be seen), and a diameter of 0.5 to 1 meter. Its color was tending to greyish-brown. When back in the village, it appeared that the subject was taboo. These and other sightings were gathered by University of Chicago biologist Roy P. Mackal, who led two expeditions to the Likouala swamps in the Republic of Congo, while searching for the Mokele-mbembe.[2] Mackal concluded that the animal has a low-slung body, and therefore is more like a lizard than a snake, as "Ellis was positive the animal never raised itself sufficiently after leaving the water". Mackal also noted that the animal's triangular- or diamond-shaped ridges were similar (but smaller) to those from the Mbielu-Mbielu-Mbielu, but not the animals themselves. This is a common misreading from his book and mixed up at a lot of webpages.

Possibly the same animal is described in the 1958 book On the Track of Unknown Animals by Bernard Heuvelmans. In 1928 a snakelike animal called Ngakoula-ngou or Badigui was reported in the Ubangi-Shari area. This report was made by game inspector Lucien Blancou, who later in 1954 also made the first report of the Emela-Ntouka.[3] According to this report, it killed a hippo in the Brouchouchou river without leaving any sign of a wound. It also crushed a manioc field, causing tracks from 1 to 1.5 meter wide. Similar reports from 1932 (at Bouzoum) and 1934 exist, in which it is named Diba, Songo, Mourou-ngou and Badigui. In the 1934 report, an old man had especially come to see Blancou, as he was told that he showed interest in the animal. The old man narrated that in about 1890 he was fishing in the Kibi stream (Bakala district), and saw the Badigui eating from a tree, called "roro". He described the neck to be "as thick as a man's thigh", and the underneath of the neck was lighter colored. He could not see the full body, only about 8 meters of the neck. He also said "it does not frequent places where you find hippos, for it kills them". Finally in 1945, the animal's tracks were spotted near Ndélé, by Blancou's gun carrier. It is believed by some people to be a living dinosaur,most likely a four legged spinosaurid. If Nguma-Monene is a giant member of the spinosaur family this would be an amazing discovery because no spinosaurid has ever gotten this massive. Most likely a living suchomimus or even the spinosaurus.

See also
Mokele-mbembe
Mbielu-Mbielu-Mbielu
Emela-ntouka
Ngoubou
Living dinosaurs

References
1.^ Everything2
2.^ Mackal, Roy P. A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-Mbembe; Leiden: E.J. Brill, 1987: ISBN 90-04-08543-2
3.^ American Monsters






Mokele-Mbembe as a hippopotamus-killing Long-Necked Sauropod or Plesiosaur, going on the information given by Powell and subsequently incorporated into Roy Mackal's books.







Older Magazine article depicting the Mokele-Mbembe, late 1940s or ealy 1950s, and the illustration slanted to make the creature seem to be the inspiration for the Babylonian Sirrush. This does not correspond to Mokele-Mbembe sightings as such, although the headgear might resemble the Surviving Sivathere instead.












Big Australian Goanna Lizard, Illustrating the comment made by Heuvelmans that the reported anatomy would not be too far off for the identification of the "Congo Dragon" with a giant monitor lizard.





Mackal's reconstruction of the Mokele-Mbembe as a small sauropod dinsaur in the range of twelve to twenty-four, or at most, thirty feet long. This is against the allegations that the creature is "Bigger than an elephant"


There are a couple of problems in claiming that the Mokele-Mbembe is a sauropod dinosaur. The first and most obvious one is that a sustainable breeding herd of sauropods would strip all the edible vegetation from their territory, especially if they lived only in certain bends of the river.

Then there is the matter that The theory depends on an outmoded idea about sauropod lifestyle. Since the end of the 1960s, sauropod dinosaurs have not been thought to be hippopotamus-like amphibious animals but primarily like elephants instead, primarily nomadic land-dwelling herd animals. It is only in the older books that you see reconstructions of brontosaurs wallowing in the swamp all day.

The third thing which pretty much cinches the argument is that the descriptions also do not match known sauropod anatomy. Sightings insist that the creatures have legs "stuck on the sides of the belly like a lizard's legs" and that when they come out on land they slide on the belly (ruling out the obvious rhino tracks discussed earlier)
Now, against the theory that we are dealing with a surviving sauropod dinosaur we also have these additional facts:

A) During the flash-card tests, Powell obtained results that matched Plesiosaurs against the "Nyamala" as often as the matches were with sauropod dinosaurs.
B) Some of the informants did not claim that the creatures were vegetarians: some said they might eat fish instead.
C) The reported dimensions exactly match the clearer sightings of the Loch Ness Monster. A Chinese missionary once had a Mokele-Mbembe sighting ashore where the long neck and back were seen above some bushes, the limbs being obscured. This sighting exactly matched some of the sightings of a creature on land on the shores of Loch Ness.




[Sighting of a swimming Mokele-Mbembe.]



In short, I think this particular series of "Congo Dragon" reports are part of a worldwide pattern of the marine Longnecked Sea-serpents going inland into the larger rivers and estuaries, casually and only temporarily. That is how the same types of creatures might turn up in Mexico, Central Africa, and in Australia-as well as other locations in the higher latitudes. The fish-eating plesiosaurs would not be stripping off all available riverside vegetation and making it look as if a plague of locusts had been through there-but breeding herds of sauropod dinosaurs would.




This is on the other hand a reasonable depiction of the more widespread Native-African "Congo Dragon" much more like a large Komodo dragon lizard. It corresponds to various descriptions of "Smooth crocodiles: in the region and is probably the same as Nguma-Monene [Mackal's interpretation], Nsanga and sometimes also called Chipekwe ["Water-Monster"]


There is evidence that it kills off rival Nile Monitors in its range and sometimes eradicates crocodiles in some areas by eating up their eggs. It is also sometimes seen to scavenge hippo and elephant carcasses, which it rips up with its long claws, but it also somtimes has a sweet tooth for fruit. It also evidently develops oddly "Differentiated" teeth from eating snails and shellfish, such as some of the smaller monitors are known to develop in older age, with longer "Fangs" up front but blunter crushing teeth behind, corresponding to mammalian molars. Because of this the creatures are sometimes said to have "Tusks"


Local Names for "Congo Dragons"


The circled part is the Congo basin where, oddly enough, Nile monitors are uncommon to completely missing where they might otherwise be expected to live.




Scale Mockup for Nile Monitor as Vs. The Congo Dragon, using a Komodo dragon as the illustration. The actual Congo Dragon seems longer and more elongated than the Komodo dragon.




Mokele-mbembe

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mokèlé-mbèmbé, meaning "one who stops the flow of rivers" in the Lingala language,[1] is the name given to a large water-dwelling cryptid found in legends and folklore of the Congo River basin.[1][2] It is sometimes described as a living creature and sometimes as a spirit. It could be considered loosely analogous to the Loch Ness Monster in Western culture.

Several expeditions have been mounted in the hope of finding evidence of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé, though without success.[1] Efforts have been covered in a number of books and by a number of television documentaries. The Mokèlé-mbèmbé and its associated folklore also appear in several works of fiction and popular culture.

OverviewAccording to the traditions of the Congo River basin the Mokèlé-mbèmbé is a large territorial herbivore. It is said to dwell in Lake Télé and the surrounding area,[1] with a preference for deep water, and with local folklore holding that its haunts of choice are river bends.[1]

Descriptions of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé vary. Some legends describe it as having an elephant-like body with a long neck and tail and a small head, a description which has been suggested to be similar in appearance to that of the extinct Sauropoda,[1] while others describe it as more closely resembling elephants, rhinoceros, and other known animals. It is usually described as being gray-brown in color. Some traditions, such as those of Boha Village, describe it as a spirit rather than a flesh and blood creature.

According to the writings of biologist Roy Mackal, who mounted two unsuccessful expeditions to find it, it is likely that the Mokèlé-mbèmbé is a reptile.[2] Of all the living reptiles, Mackal argues that the iguana and the monitor lizards bear the closest resemblance to the Mokèlé-mbèmbé,[2] though, at 15 to 35 feet (5 to 9 m) long, the Mokèlé-mbèmbé would exceed the size of any known living examples of such reptiles, writing, "I believe the description of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé is accounted for in all respects by an identification with a small sauropod dinosaur".[2]

The BBC/Discovery Channel documentary Congo (2001) interviewed a number of tribe members who identified a photograph of a rhinoceros as being a Mokèlé-mbèmbé.[3] Neither species of African rhinoceros is common in the Congo Basin, and the Mokèlé-mbèmbé may be a mixture of mythology and folk memory from a time when rhinoceros were found in the area.

History
Numerous expeditions were undertaken to discover uncharted Africa. During these, there were some sightings that have been argued by cryptozoologists to involve some unidentified dinosaur-like creature. Additionally, there have been several specific Mokèlé-mbèmbé-hunting expeditions.[1] Although several of the expeditions have reported close encounters, none have been able to provide incontrovertible proof that the creature exists.[1] The sole evidence that has been found is the presence of widespread folklore and anecdotal accounts covering a considerable period of time.[1]

1776: Bonaventure
Amongst the earliest reference that might be relevant to Mokèlé-mbèmbé stories (though the term is not used in the source) comes from the 1776 book of Abbé Lievain Bonaventure, a French missionary to the Congo River region. Among many other observations about flora, fauna, and native inhabitants related in his lengthy book, Bonaventure claimed to have seen enormous footprints in the region. The creature that left the prints was not witnessed, but Bonaventure wrote that it "must have been monstrous: the marks of the claws were noted on the ground, and these formed a print about three feet in circumference."[1]

1909: Gratz
According to Lt. Paul Gratz' account from 1909, indigenous legends of the Congo River Basin in modern day Zambia spoke of a creature known by native people as the "Nsanga", which was said to inhabit the Lake Bangweulu region. Gratz described the creature as resembling a sauropod.[1] This is one of the earliest references linking an area legend with dinosaurs, and has been argued to describe a Mokèlé-mbèmbé-like creature. In addition to hearing stories of the "Nsanga" Gratz was shown a hide which he was told belonged to the creature, while visiting Mbawala Island.

1909: Hagenbeck
1909 saw another mention of a Mokèlé-mbèmbé-like creature, in Beasts and Men, the autobiography of famed big-game hunter Carl Hagenbeck. He claimed to have heard from multiple independent sources about a creature living in the Congo region which was described as "half elephant, half dragon."[1] Naturalist Joseph Menges had also told Hagenbeck about an animal alleged to live in Africa, described as "some kind of dinosaur, seemingly akin to the brontosaurs."[1] Another of Hagenbeck's sources, Hans Schomburgk, asserted that while at Lake Bangweulu, he noted a lack of hippopotami; his native guides informed him of a large hippo-killing creature that lived in Lake Bangweulu; however, as noted below, Schomburgk thought that native testimony was sometimes unreliable.

Reports of dinosaur-like creatures in Africa caused a minor sensation in the mass media, and newspapers in Europe and North America carried many articles on the subject in 1910-1911; some took the reports at face value, others were more skeptical.

1913: von Stein
Another report comes from the writings of German Captain Freiherr von Stein zu Lausnitz, who was ordered to conduct a survey of German colonies in what is now Cameroon in 1913. He heard stories of an enormous reptile alleged to live in the jungles, and included a description of the beast in his official report. According to Willy Ley, "von Stein worded his report with utmost caution," knowing it might be seen as unbelievable.[4] Nonetheless, von Stein thought the tales were credible: trusted native guides had related the tales to him, and the stories were related to him by independent sources, yet featured many of the same details. Though von Stein's report was never formally published, portions were included in later works, including a 1959 book by Ley. Von Stein wrote:

The animal is said to be of a brownish-gray color with a smooth skin, its size is approximately that of an elephant; at least that of a hippopotamus. It is said to have a long and very flexible neck and only one tooth but a very long one; some say it is a horn. A few spoke about a long, muscular tail like that of an alligator. Canoes coming near it are said to be doomed; the animal is said to attack the vessels at once and to kill the crews but without eating the bodies. The creature is said to live in the caves that have been washed out by the river in the clay of its shores at sharp bends. It is said to climb the shores even at daytime in search of food; its diet is said to be entirely vegetable. This feature disagrees with a possible explanation as a myth. The preferred plant was shown to me, it is a kind of liana with large white blossoms, with a milky sap and applelike fruits. At the Ssombo River I was shown a path said to have been made by this animal in order to get at its food. The path was fresh and there were plants of the described type nearby. But since there were too many tracks of elephants, hippos, and other large mammals it was impossible to make out a particular spoor with any amount of certainty.[5]

1919-1920: Smithsonian Institution
A 32-man-strong expedition was sent out to Africa from the Smithsonian Institution in Washington D.C. between 1919 and 1920. The objective of this expedition was to secure additional specimens of plants and animals. Moving picture photographers from the Universal Film Manufacturing Company accompanied the expedition, in order to document the life of interior Africa. According to cryptozoologists Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe, authors of the Field Guide to Lake Monsters, "African guides found large, unexplained tracks along the bank of a river and later in a swamp the team heard mysterious roars, which had no resemblance with any known animal".[6] However, the expedition was to end in tragedy. During a train-ride through a flooded area where an entire tribe was said to have seen the dinosaur, the locomotive suddenly derailed and turned over. Four team members were crushed to death under the cars and another half dozen seriously injured. The expedition was documented in the H.L. Shantz papers.[7]

1927: Smith
1927 saw the publication of Trader Horn, the memoir of Alfred Aloysius Smith, who had worked for a British trading company in what is now Gabon in the late 1800s. In the book, Smith related tales told him by natives and explorers about a creature given two different names: "jago-nini" and "amali". The creature was said to be very large, according to Smith, and to leave large, round, three-clawed footprints.[1]

1932: Sanderson
Cryptozoologist Ivan T. Sanderson claimed that, while in Cameroon [on the border to Nigeria-DD]in 1932, he witnessed an enormous creature in the Mainyu River. The creature, seemingly badly wounded [?], was only briefly visible as it lurched into the water. Darkly colored, the animal's head alone was nearly the size of a hippo, according to Sanderson. His native guides termed the creature "m'koo m'bemboo", in Sanderson's phonetic spelling.[1]

1938: von BoxbergerIn 1938, explorer Leo von Boxberger mounted an expedition in part to investigate Mokèlé-mbèmbé reports. He collected much information from natives, but his notes and sketches had to be abandoned during a conflagration with local tribesmen.[1]

1939: von NoldeIn 1939, the German Colonial Gazette (of Angola) published a letter by Frau Ilse von Nolde, who asserted that she had heard of the animal called "coye ya menia" ("water lion") from many claimed eyewitnesses, both natives and settlers. She described the long necked creature as living in the rivers, and being about the size of a hippo, if not somewhat larger. It was known especially for attacking hippos - even coming on to land to do so - though it never ate them.[8]

1966: RidelIn August or September 1966, Yvan Ridel took a picture of a large footprint with three toes, north-east of Loubomo, notable as hippopotami have four toes.[2][9]

1976: Powell
In 1960, an expedition to Zaire was planned by herpetologist James H. Powell, Jr., scheduled for 1972, but was canceled by legal complications. By 1976, however, he had sorted out the international travel problems, and went to Gabon instead, inspired by the book Trader Horn. He secured finances from the Explorer's Club. Although Powell’s ostensible research aim was to study crocodiles, he also planned to study Mokèlé-mbèmbé.

On this journey, Powell located a claimed eyewitness to an animal called "n'yamala", or "jago-nini", which Powell thought was the same as the "amali" of Smith's 1920's books. Natives also stated – without Powell's asking - that "n'yamala" ate the flowering liana, just as von Stein had been told half a century earlier.[1] When Powell showed illustrations of various animals, both alive and extinct, to natives, they generally suggested that the Diplodocus was the closest match to "n'yamala".[1] [NB-the natives also selected a picture of a Plesiosaur as often according to Mackal's book Searching for Hidden Animals-DD]

1979: Powell
Powell returned to the same region in 1979, and claimed to receive further stories about "n'yamala" from additional natives. He also made an especially valuable contact in American missionary Eugene Thomas, who was able to introduce Powell to several claimed eyewitnesses.[1] He decided that the n'yamala was probably identical to the Mokèlé-mbèmbé. Though seemingly herbivores, witnesses reported that the creatures were fearsome, and were known to attack canoes that were steered too close.

1979: ThomasReverend Eugene Thomas from Ohio, USA, told James Powell and Roy P. Mackal in 1979 a story that involved the purported killing of a Mokèlé-mbèmbé near Lake Tele in 1959.[10] Thomas was a missionary who had served in the Congo since 1955, gathering much of the earliest evidence and reports, and claiming to have had two close-encounters himself.[11] Natives of the Bangombe tribe who lived near Lake Tele were said to have constructed a large spiked fence in a tributary of Tele to keep Mokèlé-mbèmbé from interfering with their fishing. A Mokele-mbembe managed to break through, though it was wounded on the spikes, and the natives then killed the creature. As William Gibbons writes, "Pastor Thomas also mentioned that the two pygmies mimicked the cry of the animal as it was being attacked and speared... Later, a victory feast was held, during which parts of the animal were cooked and eaten. However, those who participated in the feast eventually died, either from food poisoning or from natural causes. I also believe that the mythification (magical powers, etc) surrounding Mokèlé-mbèmbés [sic] began with this incident." Furthermore, Mackal heard from witnesses that the stakes were in the same location in the tributary as of the early 1980s.[2]

1980: Mackal-Powell
For his third expedition in February 1980, Powell was joined by Roy P. Mackal. Based on the testimony of claimed eyewitnesses, Powell and Mackal decided to focus their efforts on visiting the northern Congo regions, near the Likouala aux Herbes River and isolated Lake Tele. As of 1980, this region was little explored and largely unmapped, and the expedition was unable to reach Lake Tele. Powell and Mackal interviewed several people who claimed to have seen Mokèlé-mbèmbé, and Clark writes that the descriptions of the creature were "strikingly similar ... animals 15 to 30 feet (5 to 9 m) long (most of that a snakelike head and neck, plus long thin tail). The body was reminiscent of a hippo's, only more bulbous ... again, informants invariably pointed to a picture of a sauropod when shown pictures of various animals to which mokele-mbembe might be compared."[1][2] Mackal and Powell were interviewed before and after this expedition for the TV program Arthur C. Clarke's Mysterious World.

1981: Mackal-Bryan
Mackal and Jack Bryan mounted an expedition to the same area in late 1981. He was supposed to be joined by Herman Regusters, but they came in conflict in terms of finance, equipment and leadership and decided to split and make separate expeditions. Although, once again, Mackal was unable to reach Lake Tele, he gathered details on other cryptids and possible living dinosaurs, like the Emela-ntouka‎, Mbielu-Mbielu-Mbielu‎, Nguma-monene, Ndendeki (giant turtle), Mahamba (a giant crocodile of 15 meters), and Ngoima (a giant monkey-eating Eagle). Among his company were J. Richard Greenwell, M. Justin Wilkinson, and Congolese zoologist Marcellin Agnagna.[1][2]

The 1981 expedition would feature the only "close encounters" of the Mackal expeditions. It occurred when, while on a river, they heard a loud splash and saw what Greenwell described as "[a] large wake (about 5") ... originating from the east bank".[1][2] Greenwell asserted that the wake must have been caused by an "animate object" that was unlike a crocodile or hippo. Additionally, Greenwell noted that the encounter occurred at a sharp river bend where, according to natives, Mokèlé-mbèmbé frequently lived due to deep waters at those points.[1][2]

1987 saw the publication of Mackal's book, A Living Dinosaur?, in which Mackal detailed his expedition and his conclusions about the Mokèlé-mbèmbé.[1][2] Mackal tried, unsuccessfully, to raise funds for additional trips to Africa.

1981: Regusters
In 1981, American engineer Herman Regusters led his own Mokèlé-mbèmbé expedition, after having a conflict with the Mackal-Bryan expedition that he intended to join. Regusters and his wife Kai reached Lake Tele, staying there for about two weeks. Of the 30 expedition members (28 were men from the Boha village), only Herman Regusters and his wife claim to have observed a "long-necked member" traveling across Lake Tele. They also claim to have tried filming the being, but said their motion picture film was ruined by the heat and humidity. Only one picture was released showing a large, but unidentifiable, object in the lake.[12] The Regusters expedition returned with droppings and footprint casts, which Regusters believed were from the mokele-mbembe.[13]

It also returned with sound recordings of "low windy roar [that] increased to a deep throated trumpeting growl", which Regusters believed to be the Mokèlé-mbèmbé's call.[1] This recording was submitted for technical evaluation with a noted zoological source, but were inconclusive, except to note that the sounds were not attributable to any known wildlife.[citation needed] Despite this result, Regusters conclusions about this tape were later challanged by Mackal, who asserted that the Mokèlé-mbèmbé did not have a vocal call. Mackal asserts that vocalizations are more correctly associated with the Emela-ntouka, a similarly described creature found in the Central African legends.[citation needed]

Herman Alphanso Regusters died on December 19, 2005, aged 72.

1983: Agnagna
Congolese biologist Marcellin Agnagna led the 1983 expedition of Congolese to Lake Tele. According to his own account, Agnagna claimed to have seen a Mokèlé-mbèmbé at close distance for about 20 minutes. He tried to film it, but said that in his excitement, he forgot to remove the motion picture camera's lens cap. In a 1984 interview, Agnagna claimed, contradictorily, that the film was ruined not because of the lens cap, but because he had the Super 8 camera on the wrong setting: macro instead of telephoto.[1][14][unreliable source?].

1985: Nugent
In December 1985 Rory Nugent claimed to have spotted the animal but to have been ordered at gunpoint by the natives not to approach it.[citation needed] Nugent claimed that they view the creature as a god "that you can not approach, but if he chooses, this god can approach you."[citation needed] He also provided some pictures, which are too blurry to be identifiable.

1985-1986: Operation Congo
Operation Congo took place between December 1985 and early 1986 by "four enthusiastic but naïve young Englishmen," led by Young Earth Creationist[15][unreliable source?][16] William Gibbons,[1] They hired Agnagna to take them to Lake Tele, but did not report any Mokèlé-mbèmbé sightings. The British men did, however, assert that Agnagna did "little more than lie, cheat and steal (our film and supplies) and turn the porters against us."[1] After criminal charges were filed against him, a Congolese court ordered Agnagna to return the items he had taken from the expedition.[citation needed]

Although the party found no evidence of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé, they discovered a new subspecies of monkey, which was later classified as the Crested mangabey monkey (Cerocebus galeritus), as well as fish and insect specimens.[citation needed]

1986: Botterweg
In 1986 another expedition was mounted, consisting of four Dutchmen, organized and led by Dutch biologist Ronald Botterweg, who already had experience with tropical rainforest research in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and who later visited, lived, and worked in several African countries. This expedition entered the Congo down the Ubangi River from Bangui in the Central African Republic, and managed, with considerable organizational challenges, to reach Lake Tele, with a group of guides from the village of Boha, some of which had also accompanied Regusters. Since they had only managed to obtain permission from the local authorities (not having passed by Brazzaville) for a very limited period in the area, they only spent about three days at the lake before returning to Boha. During their stay at the lake they spent as much time as possible observing the lake and its surroundings through from their provisional camp on the north-eastern shore, and navigating part of it by dug-out canoe. No signs of any large unknown animal were found.[citation needed]

On the way back, arriving at the town of Impfondo, they were detained by Congolese biologist Agnagna and his team, who had just arrived there for an expedition with the British team of Operation Congo, allegedly for not possessing the proper documents. They were detained for a short while, and the largest part of their film and color slides were confiscated, before being released and leaving the country (again by the Ubangui river and Bangui).[citation needed]

No signs, tracks or anything tangible or visible of the alleged animals was seen or shown whatsoever.[citation needed] Tracks, droppings, and other signs of forest elephants and gorillas were commonly seen, as well as crocodiles in the lake. Despite the fact that the African guides were extremely capable and experienced hunters, guides and experts of the African rainforest, they were not able to show any track or sign of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé and none of the several interviewed guides even claimed ever to have seen one personally, nor its tracks. Remarkable is the fact that the guides that were interviewed by the Dutch expedition and that also accompanied Regusters, stated that they never saw a Mokèlé-mbèmbé during that expedition, although Regusters himself claims to have seen one.[citation needed]

This expedition received some attention in the Dutch media (radio, TV, and newspapers) from 1985 to 1987, and again in a nostalgic radio show by Dutch radio station KRO on channel Radio 2, on 7 March 2011. Furthermore, this expedition features in a slightly romanticized form as a short story by Dutch novelist author Margriet de Moor ('Hij Bestaat', meaning It exists, in the novel 'Op de Rug Gezien', meaning Seen from behind).[citation needed]

1988 Japanese expedition
In 1988 a Japanese expedition went to the area,[17] led by the Congolese wildlife official Jose Bourges. Members of a Japanese film crew allegedly captured the first evidence of Mokele-mbembe.[18][not in citation given] As they were filming aerial footage from a small plane over the area of Lake Tele, intending to obtain some shots for a documentary, the cameraman noticed a disturbance in the water. He struggled to maintain focus on the object, which was creating a noticeable wake. About 15 seconds of footage was captured, which skeptics have identified as either two men in a canoe or swimming elephants.

1989 O'Hanlon
British writer Redmond O'Hanlon traveled to the region in 1989 and not only failed to discover any evidence of Mokèlé-mbèmbé but found out that many local people believe the creature to be a spirit rather than a physical being, and that claims for its authentic existence have been fabricated. His experience is chronicled in Granta no. 39 (1992) and in his book Congo Journey (UK, 1996), published as No Mercy in the USA (1997).

1992 Operation Congo 2
William Gibbons launched a second expedition in 1992 which he dubbed "Operation Congo 2". Along with Rory Nugent, Gibbons searched almost two thirds of the Bai River along with two poorly charted lakes: Lake Fouloukuo and Lake Tibeke, both of which local folklore held to be sites of Mokèlé-mbèmbé activity. The expedition failed to provide any conclusive evidence of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé, though they did further document local legends and Nugent took two photographs of unidentified objects in the water, one of which he claimed was the creature's head. [3][not in citation given]

1998: Extreme Expeditions
The Extreme Expeditions team was set to travel to the Likouala Region, however the 1997-1999 civil war made this impossible.[19]

1999: Fay
The 1999 megatransect into the wilderness of the Congo basin by the biologist and Africa explorer J. Michael Fay did not reveal any trace of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé. However, it must be noted that the trek did not pass through the Likouala and Lake Tele regions.

2000: Extreme Expeditions
In January 2000, the Congo Millennium Expedition (aka. DINO2000) took place, the second one by Extreme Expeditions, consisting of Andrew Sanderson, Adam Davies, Keith Townley, Swedish explorer Jan-Ove Sundberg, and five others.[20]

2000: Gibbons
In November 2000, William Gibbons did some preliminary research in Cameroon for a future expedition. He was accompanied by David Wetzel, and videographer Elena Dugan. While visiting with a group of pygmies, they were informed about an animal called Ngoubou, a horned creature. The pygmies asserted it was not a regular rhinoceros, as it had more than one horn (six horns on the frill in one eyewitness account), and that the father of one of the senior members of the community had killed one with a spear a number of years ago. The locals have noted a firm dwindle in the population of these animals lately, and are hard to find. Gibbons identified the animal with a Styracosaurus, but, in addition to being extinct, these are only known to have inhabited North America.[21][self-published source?]

2001: CryptoSafari/BCSCC
In February 2001, in a joint venture between CryptoSafari and the British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club (BCSCC), a research team traveled to Cameroon consisting of William Gibbons, Scott T. Norman, John Kirk and writer Robert A. Mullin. Their local guide was Pierre Sima Noutchegeni. They were also accompanied by a BBC film crew. No evidence of Mokèlé-mbèmbé was found.[22]

2006: Marcy
In January 2006, the Milt Marcy Expedition traveled to the Dja river in Cameroon, near the Congolese border. It consisted of Milt Marcy, Peter Beach, Rob Mullin and Pierre Sima. They spoke to witnesses that claimed to have observed a Mokèlé-mbèmbé only two days before,[23][self-published source?] but they did not discover the animal themselves. However, they did return with what they believe to be a plaster cast of a Mokèlé-mbèmbé footprint.

2006: National Geographic
A May 2006 episode called "Super Snake" of the National Geographic series Dangerous Encounters included an expedition headed by Brady Barr to Lake Tele. No unknown animals were found.[citation needed]

2008: Destination Truth
In March 2008 an episode of the SyFy (formerly the SciFi Channel) series Destination Truth involved investigator Joshua Gates and crew searching for the elusive dinosaur. They did not visit the Likouala Region, which includes Lake Tele, but they visited Lake Bangweulu in Zambia instead, which had reports of a similar creature in the early 20th century, called the "'nsanga". The crew of Destination Truth kept calling the animal "Mokèlé-mbèmbé" to the locals, when that name is only used in the Republic of the Congo. The name used in that particular spot is "chipekwe". Their episode featured a videotaped close encounter, but filmed from a great distance. On applying digital video enhancement techniques, the encounter proved to be nothing more than two submerged hippopotami.[citation needed]

2009: MonsterQuest
In March 2009 an episode of the History Channel series MonsterQuest involved Bill Gibbons, Rob Mullin, local guide Pierre Sima and a two-man film crew from White Wolf Productions. It took place in Cameroon, in the region of Dja, Boumba, and Nkogo Rivers, near the border with the Republic of the Congo. The episode aired in the summer of 2009, and also featured an interview with Roy P. Mackal and Peter Beach of the Milt Marcy Expedition, 2006.[24][self-published source?] While no sightings were reported on the expedition, the team found evidence of a large underground cave with air vents. The team also received sonar readings of very long, serpentine shapes underwater.

2011: Beast Hunter
A March 2011 episode of Beast Hunter on the National Geographic Channel is planned to feature a search for Mokele-mbembe in Congo Basin.[25][26]

In cryptozoology
According to science writer and cryptozoologist Willy Ley, while there are sufficient anecdotal accounts to suggest "that there is a large and dangerous animal hiding in the shallow waters and rivers of Central Africa", the body of evidence remains insufficient for any realistic conclusions to be drawn on what the Mokèlé-mbèmbé may be.[27]

According to the writings of biologist and cryptid researcher Roy Mackal, who mounted two unsuccessful expeditions to find it, it is unlikely that the Mokèlé-mbèmbé is a mammal or an amphibian, leaving a reptile as the only plausible candidate.[2] Of all the living reptiles, Mackal argues that the iguana and the monitor lizards bear the closest resemblance to the Mokèlé-mbèmbé,[2] though, at 15 to 30 feet (9.1 m) long, the Mokèlé-mbèmbé would exceed the size of any known living examples of such reptiles.[2]

Mackal judged available evidence as consistent, writing, "I believe the description of the Mokèlé-mbèmbé is accounted for in all respects by an identification with a small sauropod dinosaur".[2] Mackal also judged the existence of an undiscovered relict sauropod to be plausible on the grounds that there were large amounts of uninhabited and unexplored territory in the region where a creature might live,[2] and on the grounds that other large creatures such as elephants exist in the region, living in large open clearings (called "bai") as well as in thicker wooded areas.[1][2]

[edit] See alsoEmela-ntouka
Ngoubou
Mbielu-Mbielu-Mbielu
Nguma-monene
Sirrush
Kasai rex
Cryptids
Living dinosaurs
[edit] References1.^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z aa ab ac Clark, Jerome (1993) "Unexplained! 347 Strange Sightings, Incredible Occurrences, and Puzzling Physical Phenomena", Visible Ink Press, ISBN 0-8103-9436-7
2.^ a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q Mackal, R. P. (1987) A Living Dinosaur? In Search of Mokele-Mbembe, E.J. Brill, ISBN 90-04-08543-2
3.^ Congo, episode 2 of 4 ("Spirits of the Forest")
4.^ Ley, 69
5.^ quoted in Ley, 70
6.^ Coleman, Loren (2003). The Field Guide to Lake Monsters, Sea Serpents, and Other Mystery Denizens of the Deep. New York: Jeremy P. Tarcher. p. 216. ISBN 1585422525.
7.^ http://aao.lib.asu.edu/ViewRecordFrame.jsp?record=0000000969
8.^ Ley, 71-72
9.^ [1]
10.^ Was a Mokèlé-mbèmbé killed at Lake Tele? by William Gibbons, retrieved 25 May 2007
11.^ Cryptomundo.com Mokèlé-mbèmbé's Rev. Eugene Thomas, 78, dies
12.^ http://www.cryptozoology.com/forum/images/mm1_3070.jpg
13.^ http://criptido.iespana.es/cripto/mokelepie.jpg
14.^ http://www.icr.org/article/306%20/ In Search Of the Congo Dinosaur by Bill Gibbons
15.^ Gibbons`, William J. "In Search Of the Congo Dinosaur". Institute for Creation Research. http://www.icr.org/article/search-congo-dinosaur/.
16.^ Guessman, Garth. "CryptoCorner: Cutting Edge Cryptozoology From Around the World". The South Bay Creation Science Association. http://www.creationinthecrossfire.com/Articles/CryptoCorner.html. Retrieved 3 January 2011.
17.^ 明日できるコトは今日やらない
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21.^ Cryptomundo.com - The Ngoubou
22.^ http://www.bcscc.ca/mokele.htm The British Columbia Scientific Cryptozoology Club
23.^ Cryptomundo.com - Mokèlé-mbèmbé Expedition Update
24.^ http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/mm-mq2-09/ cryptomundo.com 2009
25.^ "Swamp Monster of the Congo". National Geographic. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/beast-hunter/5103/Overview303#tab-facts. Retrieved 2011-03-20.
26.^ Burke, Bill (2011-03-13). "Pat Spain tracks monsters on ‘Beast Hunter’". Boston Herald. http://www.bostonherald.com/entertainment/television/general/view/2011_0313myth_chaser. Retrieved 2011-03-20.
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Monday, 5 November 2012

World's Rarest Whale Seen for First Time

http://news.yahoo.com/worlds-rarest-whale-seen-first-time-171831330.html
(Yahoo News Story)

World's Rarest Whale Seen for First Time

By OurAmazingPlanet Staff | LiveScience.com – 6 hrs ago
 
Spade-toothed Beaked Whale
 
The world's rarest whale has been spotted for the first time, in New Zealand, where two of the whales stranded themselves.
The two spade-toothed beaked whales, a mother and calf, stranded and died on Opape Beach on the North Island of New Zealand, in December 2010. The mother was 17 feet (5.3 meters) long and the calf was 11 feet (3.5 m) long.
A report describing the whales and the analysis of their DNA appears in the Nov. 6 issue of the journal Current Biology.
"Up until now, all we have known about the spade-toothed beaked whale was from three partial skulls collected from New Zealand and Chile over a 140-year period. It is remarkable that we know almost nothing about such a large mammal," Rochelle Constantine, a marine biologist at the University of Auckland in New Zealand, said in a statement. "This is the first time this species has ever been seen as a complete specimen, and we were lucky enough to find two of them."
At first, the animals were thought to be much more common Gray's beaked whales. Their identity came to light following routine DNA analysis, which was done as part of a 20-year program to collect data on beaked whale species in New Zealand waters. New Zealand is a known hotspot for whale stranding, and it has the highest rates and greatest diversities of stranded whale species in the world, the researchers report.
The New Zealand Department of Conservation photographed the animals and collected tissue samples.
"When these specimens came to our lab, we extracted the DNA as we usually do for samples like these, and we were very surprised to find that they were spade-toothed beaked whales," Constantine said. "We ran the samples a few times to make sure before we told everyone."
The researchers said they have no idea why the whales have remained so elusive.
"It may be that they are simply an offshore species that lives and dies in the deep ocean waters and only rarely wash[es] ashore," Constantine said.

Rarest Whale (Yahoo News Story)
 

Friday, 2 November 2012

ChupaBats in Texas, and More on Big Bats

 While doing a photosearch re colour photo indicated above turned up as an unue creature from Texas. It was an anonymous piece of artwork used to  illustrate Kark Shuker's blog about an unusual "batman-big bird creature" seen in 1976:
"Sitting in his mother-in-law's backyard at Raymondville, Texas, on the evening of 14January 1976, Armando Grimaldo suddenly heard a strange whistling, and a sound that reminded him of flapping bats' wings - a highly pertinent comparison, as it turned out. For just a few seconds later, he was attacked by a man-sized monstrosity with the face of a bat or monkey, a pair of large flaming eyes but no beak, dark, leathery, unfeathered skin, and a pair of huge wings yielding a massive 10-12 ft wingspan (i.e. twice that of any known species of bat). Swooping down at the terrified man, the creature snatched at him with its big claws, but, happily, Grimaldo was able to flee inside before his aerial attacker had inflicted any serious injuries. Nevertheless, his encounter was just one of several on file from this particular region of Texas during early 1976, all documenting sightings of a similar entity

 
As soon as I saw the illustration I saw theresemblance to my reconstruction for the Chupabat, a giant False Vampire bat reported the size of a medium-sized dog when running on all fours on the ground, and with a wingspan as large as the largest known bats or even a moderate-sized eagle; six or seven, maybe even as much as eight feet ( ten or twelve feet would be closer to half again than to double the size) which is said to predate upon livestock occasionally in Mexico and Central America, so finding one in Texas or New Mexico would not be too unusual. The real resemblance in the illustration is with the shape of the head. The black and white illustration shown above is clip art of the known (Smaller) False Vampire bat. A scaled-up version could easily have fanged canies more than an inch long.


 "Chupacabras-like depradations occur in the Southwest USA on occasion and could be linked to such Chupabats or Gargoyle Bats. Sheep mutilations, victims severely wounded and gutted without leaving much evidence of spilled blood on the ground, are reported from the 4 Corners region of New Mexico and thought to have been done by a large ChupaBat such as implicated in similar cases in Mexico: JC Johnson 1 year ago
Typical protocol in this situation,- the tribe insists that all of the animals be put down in case of rabies. No other recourse I'm afraid. The injured sheep were being shot as we were leaving the scene.

JC Johnson 1 year ago We don't know for sure what did this

1stofer 1 month ago in playlist More videos from cryptofourcorners sounds like the jersey devil

Heyoka Ha 2 months ago Very peculiar indeed. The hoof (foot) prints were in pairs, that is what you mean by bipedal? In any of the sheep injured, Was there any indication that the blood could have been taken first and then the animal attacked again? I am thinking there was more than one of these creatures.

brjames06 4 months ago lmao!!.. @ 3:05.. the shit didnt come out... [Ordinarily when an animal is slaughtered, the bowels dump]

OziBushMysteries 4 months ago thats not 'horse shoe prints ' i'd have to tell u? [Jersey Devil prints? the footprints were irregular ovals and I could not tell what they were. I would guess they were blurred sheep tracks]

The example above was from August 2011: the one below is from April 2010

Special thanks to JC Johnson for pointing out the videos.

Mixed in with the other reports of Giant bats are reports of an even larger but flatfaced bat, also seen in Texas in 1976. They seem to be a northen extension of the American equivallent of the Ahool, in Mythology known as Camazotz.

Monkeyfaced "Big Bird" of Texas 1976. Obviously the artist is confused about the arms and the legs and the wings. They have drawn a birdlike instead of a batlike body plan A policeman seeing one of these creatures hiding in the branches described the face as looking like that of a gorilla

Ahool

The Ahool is the latest addition to the InCryptid Field Guide!
 
    Mayan "Death Bat"
  1. Cave Demons and Giant Bat-like CreaturesLarge bat-like creature sighting in California
  2. Normally, only UFO and extraterrestrial sightings are reported to MUFON but on Saturday, June 5, 2010 an interesting account of a bat-like creature, purported to have been seen near Lodi, California was reported:

    MUFON Case 23617
    2010-05-14 at 02:45
    Lodi, California

    “I had taken my dogs for a run early in the morning - about 2:30 on May 14th 2010. I was southeast of Lodi on Live Oak Road where the road to the winery intersects. There are outside lights and I saw something crouched in the road which I thought at first was a coyote eating something. Then it stood up and was about 4 1/2 feet tall so I knew it wasn’t a coyote. It stooped back down and appeared to gather up whatever it had been eating; gave a little hop and soared away over the grapevines in an up down, up down motion. The wings sort of glistened in the light and did not seem to have feathers. I thought it looked like a gigantic bat, but have never heard of a bat that big. The dogs seemed to be frightened and jumped into the car. I was so amazed at what I saw.”
  3. What are they?
  4. According to mainstream science, the world’s biggest bat is the Bismark flying fox, an animal that never gets larger than six feet from wingtip to wingtip. According to cryptozoology, mainstream scientists might be wrong. Many sightings from seemingly reliable people suggest that this might not be the case.
  5. Giant Bat People or Just Giant Bats of Lore?
  6. Sightings of mysterious human-sized bats have been reported in all corners of the world. They are described as having black or gray fur, a monkey-like face, clawed feet and a 10-15 foot wingspan.
  7.  


  8. In Brazil they are called “bat people.” The rainforests of Java echo the cries of a bat creature called the “Ahool” because of its distinct “a-hool” vocalization.

    The island of Java, not very far from the Bismark flying fox’s home of New Guinea, is supposed to harbor this cryptid bat with a twelve-foot wingspan. The Ahool eats fish and has gray fur and a flattened face with huge black eyes, with its head overall looking like a monkey’s head. It is not attributed with supernatural powers, and seems like such a plausible animal that it has drawn the attention of naturalists. If a giant bat lived anywhere, the dense rainforests of Java would be a likely place.

    In Vietnam they are known as “night flyers.” These winged humanoids are generally 5 feet tall with eerie feminine features. They are known to swoop down on their victims and attack several times.

    Another plausible place for an undiscovered giant bat to live is Cameroon, a country in Africa where scientists have reported seeing a very similar bat. This creature is apparently called the olitiau by locals. It also has a twelve-foot wingspan with thin membranous skin and a monkey-like face, but its fur is pure black. The beings are described as terrifying to look upon, with what looks like a mixture of human or monkey and bat-like features in the face. Long, wild, disheveled, hair around the head, much like a mane, with pitch black fur covering the entirety of it’s body. The body of the fearsome creature stands about the size of a human being upon clawed feet and it’s teeth which can clearly be seen, are razor sharp, pointed daggers. It is regarded with a great deal of superstition and fear. It is not improbable that both of these bats might have monkey-like faces. Bats have a notoriously wide variety of head shapes, and many known species have heads resembling different animals such as foxes, dogs, lemurs or even horses!

    Another possible African giant bat is the kongamato, which has also been interpreted as a pterosaur by some people. This creature is not quite so large, has reddish fur, and has a long snout instead of a flattened face. Madagascar, a large island just off the coast of Africa, has tales about a bat called the fangalabolo, with a wingspan larger than 5 feet, bigger than any other bat known to live in Madagascar.

    The Guiafairo of Senegal in West Africa is described as a giant bat that is very smelly and often manages to terrify people by making its way indoors. It is hated very much, and its name translates to “the fear that flies by night.” The Guiafairo is mentioned in Karl Shuker’s “The Secret Animals of Senegambia” in the November 1998 issue of Fate Mag where it is described as having a human face and is said to be able to appear behind locked doors.

    The mlularuka of Tanzania is perhaps the most tame and ordinary of undiscovered African bats. Like known species of giant bats, it is a fruit-eater and thus is mainly spoken of as a pest to agriculture. It is described as being the size of a dog.

    Other giant bat reports sound less plausible and shade off into an area where it is nearly impossible to separate the few facts that might exist from the masses of folklore and the paranormal that these alleged facts are buried in. One such creature is the sasabonsam from Ghana in Africa. Depicted in folklore as a bearded human with bat wings, the one known body (which has sadly disappeared, along with the only photograph of it) was described as being far less human than the legends say. It was an animal like a huge bat, with a twenty-foot wingspan and stiff black-and-white spotted fur. It had huge teeth and heavy ridges over its eyes.

    The Indonesian orang-bati is even more mythical. These human/bat monsters live in an extinct volcano on the island of Seram and abduct children. Still, some researchers working in the field of cryptozoology think that a real bat may be hiding behind these fantastical tales.

    Giant vampire bat reports are generally kept separate from giant bat reports, mainly because the giant vampire bat is large for a vampire bat, but still medium-sized when compared to bats in general.

    In Mexico, an ancient Mayan cult worshiped the “death bat.”

    Around 100 B.C., a peculiar religious cult grew up among the Zapotec Indians of Oaxaca, Mexico. The cult venerated an anthropomorphic monster with the head of a bat, an animal associated with night, death, and sacrifice. This monster soon found its way into the pantheon of the Quiché, a tribe of Maya who made their home in the jungles of what is now Guatemala. The Quiché identified the bat-deity with their god Zotzilaha Chamalcan, the god of fire.
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Gouache on paper. Cryptozoology assignment. Marissa Louise.

 

 
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    Ahool
    The ahool is a legendary giant bat, or by other accounts, a pterosaur or flying primate. Named for its distinctive call “A-hool”, it is said to live in the deepest rainforests of Java. It is described as having a monkey/ape-like head with large dark eyes, large claws on its forearms approximately the size of an infant, and a body covered in gray fur. Possibly the most intriguing and astounding feature is that it is said to have a wingspan of 3 m 10 ft. This is almost twice as long as the largest known bat in the world, the common flying fox.
     
     
  1. The Island of Java, formed mostly as the result of volcanic activity, is the worlds 13th largest island, and the 5th largest island of Indonesia. Java is one of the most densely populated regions on earth and with a population of roughly 124 million is also the most populated island in the world. It is because of this overpopulation that the rainforests of Java have all but disappeared in recent times, the Gunung Halimun National Park is one of the last remaining stretches of lowland forest on the island. What remains Java’s once great rain forests supports a wide array of wildlife including over 23 mammal species, over 200 bird species, over 500 forms of plant life and according to the native population of the forests is the home to a large unidentified winged creature known as the Ahool.
  2. The Ahool, named after its call, a long ahOOOooool, is said to be a bat like creature, and is described as the size of a one year old child with a gigantic wing span of roughly 12 feet. It is reported to be covered in short, dark grey fur, have large, black eyes, flattened forearms supporting its leathery wings and a monkey like head, with a flattish, man like face. It has been seen squatting on the forest floor, at which times its wings are closed, pressed against the Ahool’s body, its feet appearing to point backwards. It is thought that the Ahool is a nocturnal creature, spending its days concealed in caves located behind or beneath waterfalls; its nights spent skimming across rivers in search of large fish upon which it feeds.
  3. One account of the Ahool occurred in 1925 when naturalist Dr. Ernest Bartels, son of noted ornithologist M.E.G. Bartels, was exploring a waterfall on the slopes of the Salek Mountains when a giant unknown bat, the Ahool, few directly over his head. Two years later in 1927, around 11:30 pm, Dr. Ernest Bartels encountered the Ahool again, this time he was laying in bed, inside his thatched house close to the Tjidjenkol River in western Java, listening to the sounds of the jungle when he suddenly heard a very different sound coming from almost directly over his hut, this loud and clear cry seemed to utter, A Hool!

    Grabbing his torch Dr. Bartels ran out of his hut in the direction the sound seemed to be heading. Less than 20 seconds later he heard it again, a final A Hool! which floated back towards him from a considerable distance downstream. As he would recall many years later, he was transfixed on the sound, not because he did not know what produced it but rather because he did, the Ahool.
  4. At one time, Bartels had suggested that perhaps the creature was not a bat, but some type of bird, possibly a very large owl, but this theory did not sit well with others and was greeted with passionate denials by his friends, who assured him in no uncertain terms that they were more than capable of distinguishing a bat from a bird.
  5. Bartels accounts of the Ahool were passed down to cryptozoologist Ivan T. Sanderson by Bernard Heuvelmans, and after much research Sanderson concluded that the Ahool is a form of unclassified bat. Sanderson took special interest in the Ahool because he too had met with such a creature, but not in Java, his encounter took place in the Assumbo Mountains of Cameroon, in western Africa. Sanderson thought that the Ahool could be an Oriental form of the giant bat like creature he witnessed in Africa; this creature was known by the African natives as the Kongamato.
  6. Some researchers have suggested that the Ahool may be a surviving population of pterosaur, a flying reptile thought to have gone extinct around the time of the dinosaurs, some 65 million years ago. Indeed the description of the Ahool does match what we currently know about pterosaur species, including large forearms supporting leathery wings. The majority of investigators seem to agree however that the Ahool is more than likely a form of unknown giant bat, looking to the creatures reported facial features as evidence against the flying reptile theory. A third, less popular theory, also based on the reported facial features of the Ahool is that this beast may be the worlds first reported case of a flying primate.
  7. Regardless of which theory you may subscribe to it may only be a matter of time before we find out exactly what the Ahool is. With the continued destruction of Java’s rainforests the Ahool’s habitat continues to shrink which may lead to more encounters with the creature by modern man as we encroach further on its home. Unfortunately the destruction of the Ahool’s home may also lead to its extinction before we even get a chance to fully understand its identity.
  8. The Evidence
  9. There is currently no physical evidence to suggest the existence of a creature like the Ahool living in the rainforests of Java.
  10. The Sightings
  11. In 1925, naturalist Dr. Ernest Bartels, son of noted ornithologist M.E.G. Bartels, was exploring a waterfall on the slopes of the Salek Mountains when a giant unknown bat, the Ahool, few directly over his head.
  12. In 1927, around 11:30 pm, Dr. Ernest Bartels encountered the Ahool again. Bartels was laying in bed, inside his thatched house close to the Tjidjenkol River in western Java, listening to the sounds of the jungle Bartels suddenly heard a very different sound coming from almost directly over his hut, this loud and clear cry seemed to utter, A Hool!

  13. From Wiki:

    The ahool is a flying cryptid, supposedly a giant bat, or by other accounts, a living pterosaur or flying primate.

    Like many cryptids, it is not well documented, and little reliable information - and in this case, no material evidence - exists. Named for its distinctive call A-hool (other sources render it ahOOOooool), it is said to live in the deepest rainforests of Java.

    It is described as having a monkey/ape-like head with large dark eyes, large claws on its forearms (approximately the size of an infant), and a body covered in gray fur. Possibly the most intriguing and astounding feature is that it is said to have a wingspan of 3 m (10 ft). This is almost twice as long as the largest (known) bat in the world, the common flying fox.

    According to Loren Coleman and Jerome Clark [Quoting Sanderson], it was first described by Dr. Ernest Bartels.

    Bartels published regular accounts of his work while exploring the Salak Mountains on the island of Java.

    One speculation on its existence by the cryptozoologist Ivan T. Sanderson is that it might be a relative of Kongamato in Africa. Others have suggested it were a living fossil pterosaur, on account of its supposedly leathery wings. As is known today, most pterosaurs seem to have had wings that were covered with a downy fluff to prevent heat loss; this may or may not have been necessary in a tropical environment depending on these animals’ metabolism. On the other hand, there might be an entirely mundane explanation:

    Two large earless owls exist on Java, the Spotted Wood-owl (Strix seloputo) and the Javan Wood-owl (Strix (leptogrammica) bartelsi). They are intermediate in size between the Spotted Owl of North America or the Tawny Owl of Eurasia, and an eagle owl (horned owl), being 40–50 cm (16–20 in) long and with a wingspan of perhaps 1.20 meters (4 ft). Despite this discrepancy, wingspans are usually overestimated[verification needed]in flying animals not held in hand (see also Thunderbird), especially by frightened observers.

    Size nonwithstanding, the Javan or Bartels’s Wood-owl seems an especially promising candidate to resolve the ahool enigma: it has a conspicuous flat “face” with large dark eyes exaggerated by black rings of feathers and a beak that protrudes but little, and it appears greyish-brown when seen from below. Its call is characteristic, a single shout, given intermittently, and sounding like HOOOH!

    Like most large owls, it is highly territorial in breeding season and will frighten away intruders by mock attacks from above and behind. Its flight, being an owl, is nearly completely silent, so that the victim of such sweeps usually becomes aware of the owl when it is homes in snarling and with outstretched talons (held at “breast” height to the observer), and would just have time to duck away. The Javan Wood-owl is a decidedly rare and elusive bird not often observed even by ornithologists, and hides during day. It is found in remote montane forest at altitudes of probably around 1,000-1,500 meters, and does not tolerate well human encroachment, logging and other disturbances.

    From its appearance and behavior, the Javan Wood-owl matches the characteristics of the ahool surprisingly well, despite the cryptid at first glance giving the impression of a mammal. Observer error due to the circumstances of being dive-bombed in a remote gloomy forest by a fierce snarling and clawing bird may well account for the apparent discrepancies. Notwithstanding, the wood-owls of Java are not generally mentioned in cryptozoological discussions of the ahool, and most authors of cryptozoologial works seem to be entirely unaware of the birds’ existence.

    Be that as it may, it is not resolved how well the owls are known to locals, especially the local name - if any - and whether they are present in locations of ahool reports would seem to be highly relevant.