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Friday, 13 May 2011

REPOST: DALE DRINNON: The Sisimite (Tzitzimitl) On CFZ

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Sunday, July 11, 2010
DALE DRINNON: The Sisimite (Tzitzimitl)
The Sisimite is equally well known in Belize, Guatemala, Honduras and in parts of southern Mexico's tropical forests.

The Sisimite or "guardian of the forest" is best described as a large, hairy gorilla or apelike creature; It has no verbal communication that is known and according to reports, is a rather malevolent or evil primate (unlike sasquatch but similar to the mythical African gorilla of old) who would kill humans of the same sex and abduct and rape those of the opposite sex, which is not unlike current behavior patterns of male orangutans (A male orangutan at Tanjung Putting Reserve in Indonesian Borneo once raped the female cook for Birute Galdikas on a banana tree stand during feeding time.)

The Sissimito or Sisimictli, according to folklore, is said to have four fingers and no thumbs, and sometimes his feet are said to point backwards, two anatomical oddities that are also attributed to the much smaller and very rare El Duende in some parts of Belize. Both creatures are believed to live in caves deep in the high bush country, which is the Belizean term for virgin montane tropical forest. (This is information printed in Rabinowitz, Alan 1986, Jaguar, Struggle and Triumph in the Jungles of Belize) As a matter of fact, Duende, the Spanish name, is used for the smaller "Sisemite" as referred to by the natives: the dwarf cowboy with a big hat is the Spanish and not the native conception.

The Sisimite is possibly related to the mystery primate reported in and around the mouth of the Orinoco River in Venezuela and the Guiana Highlands, South America. Heuvelmans refers to statues of such unknown apes in Colombia in his book On the Track of Unknown Animals.

In Buckskin Joe, Edward Jonathan Hoyt reported an encounter he had in 1898 in Honduras. A large, apelike creature, about 5 feet tall, crawled over the end of his bunk. Hoyt killed the animal, which resembled a hairy human (Green Sasquiatch 1978, p.133)

[Olmec Sculpture Reminiscent of a Gorilla. There are many parallel depictions in stone, some at a very large size]

Geologist Wendell Skousen said the people of Cubulco in Baja Verapaz reported: "There lives in the mountains very big, wild men, completely clothed in short, thick, brown, hairy fur, with no necks, small eyes, long arms and huge hands. They leave footprints twice the size of a man's" Several persons said that the sisimite had chased them down mountain sides. Skousen thought the creatures, which he indicated traveled on two legs and sometimes on all four, might have been bears. However, upon questioning the natives carefully, he wrote: "it looked like a bear, but it wasn't from the description that they gave - no conspicuous snout and no ears" (Sanderson Abominable Snowmen 1961, p. 159).

Anthropologist Michael Howard notes in Kekchi Religious Beliefs and Lore Regarding the Jungle (National Studies, 1974,Vol. 3[2]: 34 - 49) that the. Kekchi Maya of southern Belize's Toledo District recognize three main classes of forest denizens. First were the major deities, led by tzultacah, a sky/earth, water/forest god; and next, a class of lesser local spirits and personified beings. Finally there are "various animals which are often considered to be in a close relationship with tzultacah, such as the sissimito and other more average animals like the mountain cow [tapir] and tiger [jaguar]." Thus, the Sisimite is clearly viewed as a rare animal, not a super natural being.

Similar creatures are reported in Guatemala, where it has been said, they kidnap women and children (Sanderson 1961, pp. 161-162)

The bulk of this is From Forbidden Archaeology: The Hidden History of the Human Race, Michael A. Cremo and Richard L. Thompson (Bhaktivedanta Book Publishing, 1996). Here are some other snippets from the internet that I found on the subject:

Posted on Bigfoot Forums Jan 5 2010:

This one is similar to the legends I posted before, but this one belongs to the Paya indians of Honduras.
"It exist among the Payas, the belief on the sisimite or cicemite, which also have the "ladinos" [spanish speaking people] and other indians from the Mosquitia [region]. Nevertheless, the Payas had no name in their language for this fantastic people, and they have adopted the "spanish" name sisimite-há. which comes trom the mexican [nahuatl] tzitzimitl, "devil". It can be found just in the most inaccessible hills, it has a black color, and has the size and the shape of a short-size person, with very large feet and arms. It has the feet in an opposite direction, in relaton to the man feet, so when one looks his tracks, you think they belong to a person that is walking in the opposite direction. The indians also said, that when the Sisimite kills the persons he found from the same sex, but if he finds one person from the opposite sex, it takes it away into his cave".

The Paya Indians of Honduras, a enthographical, historical and linguistic study (in spanish, page 298)

I wonder, how does the tracks of orangutans look like? They bent their feet a lot when walking...
The feet are reversed, in relation with the human feet....(our feet is "right" and theirs is simply "wrong").
The description. Sanderson told that Sisimites were dark brown, but oversized[larger than human sized]. Here Sisimites are rather smaller...

K. Adam.

Posted Jan 19, 2010:

Hi Bigfoothunter6. I have posted a few tales that I have found about this legendary creature. Ivan T. Sanderson has a whole chapter on his book
Abominable Snowman, the legend comes to life.

They are based in a rather obscure old folk tale, from the native indians of Central America, which was widespread among some maya and other native tribes in central america. Most of the tales speak of peasants and villagers, that travelling in the woods, have met some kind of creature, a hairy devil with backward feet...which was a very scary apparition. It was considered supernatural and evil. It seems the people borrowed an old aztec word, "tzitzimitl", which was applied to all kind of ghosts, devils and scary apparitions of supernatural origin.

In some stories, this Sisimite could kidnap people. Male sisimites captured women, and female, man. In the legends, the Sisimite tried to procreate with these captured humans. They were described also as nocturnal animals, hairy giants, apelike characteristics and used to throw rocks to people, specially if they went through some canyons at night.

The word "tzitzimitl" is very old, it existed long before the spaniards conquered these lands around 1520-1540. So it is possible that the Sisimite legend became widespread during colonial times and that was based in older maya tales.

Some other people say that it was possible brought by african slaves, as an ancestral memory from gorillas and chimps in Africa.

Anyway, first anthropologists and ethnographers which studied the native mayan, belicean and hondurean mythology (19th century, beginning of 20th century) wrote about the sisimite legend, but was considered just another ghost from the maya spiritual world, an impossible animal (due to the backward feet).

But in this legend was something strange. Was it a legend, after all? The tale included several advices, for example, never to follow Sisimite tracks, to stay away from these creatures, because they were dangerous.
In the tales, people who actually saw a Sisimite became scared to death and got sick with fever...

Anyway, there are tales from the 1890s and from the beginning of the 20th century, from people which reported to have met these fabulous creature, and that got really scared. They described it as a hairy humanoid, some kind of gorilla, with terrible screams, which lived very deeply on the forest of very high on the mountains. There was a few tales of hunters and ranchers about this creature.

Then, the Sisimites (if they ever existed), their number dwindled and they weren't seen anymore. It the legends, it was told about ravines, or water springs, or rivers, where the Sisimite appeared, specially at night.

Anyway, the apparition left his imprint on Central american geography. There is actually, towns, hamlets, ravines and hills called "El Sisimite", so maybe the legend was not a tall tale at all...

K. Adam.

Este ser se registró hace años, fue visto por varias personas, sólo que todos eran personas de campo, pues es el sitio perfecto para este tipo de seres, muy misteriosos y escurridizos. Aún ahora se conoce del Sisimite.

El Sisimite es comparable al Bigfoot de los Estados Unidos o Yeti de los Himalayas. Claro, estando en un clima tropical es de esperarse que existan algunas diferencias.

El Sisimite también conocido con el nombre de Itacayo. Mando una recreación que se tiene de dicho ser:

Él se alimenta de frutas.

Se cuenta que uno de los departamentos de nuestro país llamado Danlí aparece al igual que el duende, sale en busca de jóvenes campesinas para robárselas.

El momento que aprovecha para efectuar la caza de las jóvenes es cuando se recoge el maíz de las milpas (cultivos de maíz). Valiéndose de que el maíz es muy alto se camufla y a gran velocidad y con gran destreza se lleva a su víctima a su cueva que no es de fácil acceso si es que se le encuentra.

Tiene gran fuerza y hace fuertes gruñidos como un mono aullador. Una vez que tiene a la joven se dice que la tiene para que le tenga sus hijos, embaraza a las jóvenes dando así a luz a una criatura mitad humano mitad bestia.

Se conoce todo esto pues que se sepa solamente una mujer logró escapar de las garras del Sisimite aunque esto le costó perder los engendros que había dado a luz con el grotesco ser.

Jóvenes, no salgan solas a los maizales pues puede que el Sisimite les esté observando y tramando cómo llevarlas a sus aposentos.

Folklore hondureño.

[This being registered itself years ago, was seen by several people, only who all were people of field, because it is the perfect site for this type of beings, very mysterious and slippery. Still now he knows himself the Sisimite.

The Sisimite is comparable to the Bigfoot of the United States or Yeti of the Himalayas. Clearly, being in a tropical climate it is to hope that some differences exist.

The Sisimite also known with the name Itacayo. Control a recreation that is had of this being: He feeds himself on fruits.

One tells that one of the departments of our called country Danlí appears like the genie, leaves in search of young people farmers to rob them.

The moment that is useful to carry out the hunting of the young people is when the maize takes shelter of milpas (maize cultures). Being worth of which the maize is very high it camouflages and at a high speed and with great skill one takes to his victim to his cave that is not readily accessible if it is him.

It has great force and it makes [calls] like a howler monkey. Once it has the young person says it has that it so that it has his children to him, half embarrasses to the young people thus giving to light to a human creature half beast].

[Ozomatli, Aztec Small Monkey-Man, Possibly relatable to the more recent reports of the 'Dwendi' and the creature in the DeLoys Photograph. There is a facial resemblance to the creature in the photo]

En las cuevas, selvas y montañas de Honduras, se encuentran las leyendas de innumerables criaturas fantasticas.

Personas que han recorrido este pais, acumulando historias folkloricas, tradiciones, que cuentan los aldeanos, nos han hecho conocer algunas de ellas.


Se cuenta que el Sisimite, es similar a Yeti, el Pie Grande de Estados Unidos y Canada, pues aparece y desaparece misteriosamente.

Dicen que habita en cavernas casi inaccesibles, y deambula por las montañas mas altas, y come frutas silvestres.

Dicen que este monstruo, solian secuestrar mujeres, y llevarlas a esas cuevas en lo alto de las montañas.

Y de allí, nacieron hombres-mono.

Y tan veridica parece esta historia, que una mujer escapó de la cueva donde la tenía secuestrada un sisimite, aseverando la tradicion.

Porque la historia esta asevera que cuando ella huía, el sisimite, le mostraba los tres hijos a ella para lograr que vuelva. Esto sucedia a la vera de un rio. Y como la mujer no volvio, el sisimite, los tiro al rio, donde murieron.

Se asocio a los SISIMITES con el Dios Chac, de la cultura Maya.

Y en las paredes de unas cuevas, se encuentran huellas de las manos que dejaron los Sisimites.


The Sisimite is told that, is similar to Yeti, the Big Foot of the United States and Canada, because it appears and it disappears mysteriously.

They say that it lives in almost inaccessible caverns, and it rambles by high mountains but, and eats wild fruits.

They say that this monster, they solian to kidnap women, and to take them to those caves at the top of mountains.

And from there, they were born man-monkey.

And so truthful it seems this history, that a woman escaped of the cave had where kidnapped it sisimite, asserting the tradition.

Because history this asserts that when it fled, sisimite, showed the three children to him her to obtain that it returns. This sucedia to the side of a river. And like the woman not volvio, sisimite, them shot to the river, where they died.

I am associated to the SISIMITES with the God Chac, of the Mayan culture.

And in the caves, are tracks of the hand[-like footprints?] that were left by the Sisimites].

A long report about one of these "Forest Devils" is included in Secret Cities of Old South America by Harold T. Wilkins on pp 316-319 and quoting Dr. Thomas Gann in 1927. The report is included in Eberhart, Mysterious Creatures, and related to the Mapinguari of Brazil (as Wilkins also connects it) "The King Kong of the Araguaya of the Mato Grosso has his exact counterpart in Honduras, part of the old Empire of the Mayas..." Wilkins begins. The story had it that a half-caste black carrier had been torn to pieces by the creature.

"Accompanied by [Frank] Blaucaneaux, Gann trailed the strange monster's footsteps to a cave deep in the forest. Close to the mouth of the cave both men were brought up all standing. Sunk deeply in the soft clay were footprints almost exactly like the thumb and first fingers of a gigantic human hand. Each digit was armed with a great claw. Persistent efforts have been made to capture the beast but with no success..."

On one occasion, Blaucaneaux and "His black friend" saw the branches waving at the top of a tall tree and the black man said it was the "Debbil-Debbil".The bearer reluctantly agreed to go for a closer look, armed with a light rifle loaded with duck shot [!!] after a dreadful commotion in the brush with much screaming they found the bearer, with fuur finger-gouges across his torso, from which his entrails protruded at his belly. He was still alive enough to say the "Debbil" had ripped him up and then beat it for the bush. Subsequent questioning of the local Natives brought out the information that the "Forest Devil" was well known, it would attack lone women when it could, rip their clothes off and hurl them to the ground [assuming that the actual rape part of the story was left out by retellers of the tale] It was covered with long, stiff. black hairs Later, scratches or rub marks on trees five or six feet up with some examples of these long, stiff, black hairs sticking in the bark.

The most important thingabout the report is the description of the footprints as handlike but in a most peculiar fashion: they were partial tracks only. The apelike creature was walking on the rims of its feet, not with the soles flat to the ground. This indicates an arboreal ape. Great apes such as gorillas are ideed capable of ripping open a human's belly using no more than its ordinary fingernails backed up by brute strength. This is not a groundsloth if it was climbing high in the trees, nor is a tail ever mentioned. Its footprints are probably what are reported as "looking like the bottom of a bottle" in Brazil and the creature does share many features with the Mapinguari. But it is actually a Sisimite because the story about its raping women is also included. And that same myth about the creatures mating with humand is prevalent all over South America (and this has been used to discredit the DeLoys photo by innuendo-but it cannot have that specific application if it is a widespread Native myth) And again it is supposed to have only "Four fingers" (And a very reduced thumb?)

So it seems there is a large arboreal ape in the tropical forests of the New World, most likely a sort of large and dark-colored orangutan. It has large throat pouches which makes its calls louder by resonance, and it is most frequently compared to a very large tailless howler monkey. Then again there is also a smaller "sisemite" which is more like a siamang and would have been what Sanderson's informants were calling a "Dwendi"

Posted by Jon Downes at 3:07 AM 2 comments:
Dale Drinnon said...
Wilkins also says the ape is definitely known in Costa Rica but he does not give any name for it there. There is some confusion with the "Darien Wild Man" which has humanoid feet WITHOUT the opposed big toe: that would be something different and probably the same as the comparable Didi also without the opposed toe (The name Didi also refers to a kind of an ape with an opposed toe, but it walks with the whole sole flat on the ground. Eberhart says the two types are called "male and female" Didi tracks)

4:22 AM

SambuHauseDarienJungle said...
From SambuHause, Darien, Panama

Darien Bigfoot Account

White Indians of Darien” Richard Oglesby Marsh, Putnam, 1934

In 1920 while I was in Panama an old and experienced American prospector, Shea by name, came to me with a
strange story. He had just returned from a trip to southeastern Darien. With another American he had ascended
the Sambu River which enters the sea on the southern shore of San Miguel Bay. The country here was, and still
is, wholly unknown. Even the mountain range back from the coast did not appear on the maps. Shea and his
companion worked their way with great difficulty to the headwaters of the Sambu and there they became
separated. The other American has not been heard from since.

When Shea lost his companion, he lost his canoe and most of his equipment. So instead of attempting to return
down the Sambu, he decided to force his way to the Pacific across the Andean Range to the west. He reached
the divide in a state of exhaustion and by a stroke of luck stumbled on an old Indian dugout abandoned on the
bank of a small river running into Pinas Bay. It was nearly dark, so he camped for the night at a considerable
altitude not far from the divide.

All that night he heard the footsteps of a large animal in the jungle above his camp. And when dawn came, he
heard a curious chattering sound. He looked up and saw standing on top of the bank an animal which appeared
to his unscientific mind to be a cross between a negro and a gigantic ape. It was six feet tall, walked erect,
weighed possibly three hundred pounds and was covered with long black hair. It was glaring down at him and
chattering its teeth in rage.

Shea whipped out his revolver and shot it through the head. It tumbled down the bank and lay still beside his
canoe. When Shea recovered from his fright he measured the animal crudely. It was heavily built like a gorilla, but
the big toes on the feet were parallel with the other toes, as in a human being, not opposed like thumbs, as in all
other monkeys and great apes.

Unfortunately Shea was too exhausted to bring any part of the animal back to civilization. He barely managed to
get down to Pinas Bay on the Pacific and attract the attention of a coaster which took him to Panama more dead
than alive.

I saw him many times after that in the hospital where he eventually died of chronic malaria. Almost his last words
were a solemn oath that the story of the 'man-beast' was true.

Of course, my first reaction to this story was extreme skepticism. But I found to my surprise that many trustworthy
men who had penetrated into the little-known parts of tropical America did not share my disbelief.

The 'man-beast' is reported to have been seen in many locations.

A Spanish gold-hunting expedition in the seventeenth century reported that it had shot fourteen of them not far
from this same Pinas Bay.

The Indians from Equador to Nicaragua assert that the creatures inhabit isolated jungle-covered mountains, as
do the gorillas in Africa. Nothing will persuade an Indian to spend the night on such a peak.

When I returned to Washington and mentioned the matter to Dr. Hough of the Smithsonian, I did not get the
pitying smile I was expecting.

On the contrary he said he had been getting reports of this sort for twenty years and was inclined to believe there
was something in them.

Dr. Anthony of the New York Museum of Natural History has a story to tell of encountering a large unknown
animal near the summit of Mt. Tacarcuna on the Columbian border.

A Frenchman claims to have shot one in Equador.

5:21 PM


  1. This was part of a series of reports for the CFZ in which I endeavoured to show that the series of large Unknown apes all around the Pacific were all roughly similar and all related to one anothger, from the Yeti of Northern India and the Assam to the Ucumar or Ucu of South America, which I considered identical to the Mapinguari, and not neglecting the Skunk Apes of the Southern USA. I probably do not need to repost the entire series but I shall probably repost an article on the Ucus next. One article which had not made it to press yet was on the Xing-Xing of China and surrounding areas, an ape somewhat like an orangutan. I relate reports of a "Great Black Ape" on Hainan Island to this creature. Some Zoologists say that name refers to a type of black-capped gibbon on that island but the little information I have makes it out to be similar to the Hibagon and that it goes under the same of Xing-Xing as well. "Xing-Xing" (Sing-sing) has also been applied to the Tibetan Yeti by Chinese documents.

    Best Wishes, Dale D.

  2. i have got Nepal's sisimitte palm (the palm is like that of a smallest monkey with long nails.....but it's nails are opposite unlike any creature on this planet) if u r interested then i can send u the picture of it

  3. Naturally of course I am interested. I should reiterate, though, that the name "Sisimite" is applied to more than one creature. If you wish to send me any emails, you can do so through the gmail account, and if that doesn't work, we can work out something else different.


    Ancient South American Tri Cryptozoological Mystery: De Loys’ Ape, Mono Grande (Great Ape) or Bigfoot from 1500 B.C.?

  5. Around 1978 I, together with my family (I was a small child) lived on the Gulf of Mexico in the port of Coatzacoalcos, state of Veracruz. We had an indian maid, and one day, she casually told us of these apes who used to raid her village to abduct young women.



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