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Showing posts with label Bernard Heuvelmans. Show all posts
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Saturday, 10 May 2014

Seaweed Mane Explanation From Jay Cooney

Re-post
 Green Renaissance's Photos · Green Renaissance's Page

The Mary River turtle (Elusor macrurus) with a green mohawk of algae.
It's suggested that the algae helps provide camouflage.

Jay Cooney just sent me a copy of the photo and made the suggestion
Apparently the turtles do this as camouflage. A longneck doing this could definitely explain the seaweed-like "hair"[in the "mane"]!
 
And actually that is a quite good explanation. the seaweed (algae) would also be growing in seasonally, in both saltwater and fresh (with different species) and also could look either greenish or reddish brown, and so it fits all of the broad criteria. Furthermore, the animals could be tearing it off of each other by mouth without doing each other any harm, and the photos do show other patches of growth on the face in the area where "ear fins" and "whiskers" [even "green whiskers"] are rarely and irregularly reported

So I am going to pencil that in a strong possibility and in fact I now rank it as a strong possibility,  a higher possibility than Bernard Heuvelmans' and Ivan Sanderson's suggestion that vascularized fibers make up the "Mane." I do not have it as the default yet but it might well be the explanation that stands the Occam's Razor test the best.

Best Wishes, Dale D.

Saturday, 8 March 2014

Tote-Up Review

The following is my assessment of some of the Cryptid categories as given in the basic standard Cryptozoology. * indicates a category I consider to be of interest and a potential new species not catalogued by science, and the categories I would strike from the list are also indicated.  To make it easier to read I have also colour-coded it and purple indicates the Cryptid categories, black background and red print indicates the ones I would drop out

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Bernard Heuvelmans Sea Serpents:

*Long Necked A 30-60-foot (9-18 m), long-necked, Plesiosaur-shaped Cosmopolitan animal.
*"Megalotaria" an uncatalogued Walrus-sized sea lion (as a separate spinoff category)  

Super Eels: A group of large and possibly unrelated eel-shaped fishes. 
Partially based on the "Leptocephalus giganteus" larvae (Which includes two unrelated kinds also)
*"Megaloconger" the 30 foot long kind (as a separate spinoff category) 
*"Titanoconger" the 60-100 foot (18-30 m) long kind (as a separate spinoff category) 

*Marine Saurian: A 50–60-foot (15–18 m) sea crocodile,
 *Mosasaur (or Pliosaur) 60-100 foot (18-30m) long (as a separate spinoff category) 

VOID CATEGORIES:

Merhorse  A 60-100 foot (18-30 m), medium-necked, large-eyed, horse-headed pinniped. Maned and often has whiskers.   

Many-Humped  A 60–100-foot (18–30 m), medium-necked, long-bodied archaeocete. It has a series of humps or a crest on the spine like a sperm whale's

Super Otter A 65–100-foot (18–30 m), medium-necked, long-bodied archaeocete that resembles an otter. It moves in numerous vertical undulations

Many Finned  A 60–100-foot (18–30 m), short necked archeocete. It has a number of lateral projections that look like dorsal fins, but turned the incorrect way.

Yellow Belly: A very large, 100–200-foot (30–61 m) yellow-and-black-striped, tadpole-shaped creature. Dropped. (Could still count as a larger form of whale shark)

Father-of-all-the-turtles: A giant turtle. Dropped.
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Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe (Additional Categories)

Mystery Cetacean: A category of uncatalogued whale species including
   *Unknown porpoises and dolphins
   *Double finned whales and dolphins,
   *Dorsal finned sperm whales,
   *Unknown beaked whales,
   *Unknown orca,
   *Walrus-tusked whales and others. 
Mystery Sirenian:
   *surviving Steller's sea cow
   *and possible African freshwater dugongs 
*Giant Beaver 
   *Giant Otter (as a separate spinoff category) 
*Mystery Monitor
   *Mystery Iguana (as a separate spinoff category)
*Mystery Sharks

Mystery Manta (Possibly known species)
Mystery stingrays (as a separate spinoff category) (Possibly known species) 

 Mystery Salamander (Known species)
Big Fishes (Sturgeons, alligator gars, pikes, catfishes, paddlefish and others)  (Known species)     

Giant Octopus, Octopus giganteus or Otoctopus giganteus:   (VOID)
*Northern Colossal Squid (as a separate spinoff category) (Possibly a new species)

VOID CATEGORIES:

 Classic Sea Serpent: A quadrupedal, elongated animal with the appearance of many humps when swimming. Essentially a composite of the many humped, super otter, and super eels types. The authors suggest Basilosaurus as a candidate (Standing Wave)

Waterhorse: A large pinniped, similar to the long necked + merhorse. Both of their eyes are rather small. They are noteworthy for being behind both salt and fresh water sightings.
(Maned, horned, with prominent ears and beards, one prominent shoulder hump and occasional cloven hoofprints when they come ashore=Swimming Moose)

Cetacean Centipede (the Many-finned SS)  (Row of Dolphins or small whales)

                         
Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe (Abominable Snowmen Categories)

1. *Neo Giant (Reverts to possible Gigantopithecus after Krantz)
    *Subgiant (Tropical Africa)> (Possible robust Australopithecus sp)
2. True Giant (VOID) (Reverts to possible Gigantopithecus after Krantz,ie, included in Neo Giants)

3. Marked Hominid (a Homo sapiens variety) (Known species)
4. Neanderthaloid (a Homo sapiens variety) (Known species)
5. Erectus Hominid (a Homo sapiens variety) (Known species)
6. Proto Pygmy (a Homo sapiens variety) (Known species)

7. Unknown Pongid (Generally Orangutan varieties) (Known species)

8. Giant Monkey
    (>*Isnachi in the New World) 
9. Merbeing >
     (Chupacabras) (VOID) +
    *?Freshwater Monkeys after Tyler Stone
    *?Merfolk (Basically allowed to stand)
               
Ivan T Sanderson Abominable Snowmen: Legend come to Life

 Of Sanderson's four categories, only the *Neo-Giants remain as an open category (as above), and in this category we follow Heuvelmans' example and defer to Grover Krantz.

Bernard Heuvelmans, On the Track of Unknown Animals


Contents
4Nittaewo, the Lost People of Ceylon91
5Orang Pendek, the Ape-Man of Sumatra119
6The Not So Abominable Snowman (All possible Orangutans)143


7The Surrealist Dinosaur of New Guinea (Hoax)
                                                            > *Giant Monitors
219
*8The Incredible Australian Bunyips  (> Seals )
                                                             and > *Giant Monitors,
                                                              *Giant "Demon Ducks"
226
9The Queensland Marsupial Tiger251
*10The Moa, a Fossil that May Still Thrive
                                                  *Small Turkey-sized Moa
                                                  *Medium Emu-like Moa
                                                  *Large Moa like Dinornis
262
11Waitoreke, Impossible New Zealand Mammal (Probable imported otter)293


12The Patagonian Giant Sloth > * Equatorial Forest Ground sloths301
*13The Giant Anaconda (*Sucuriju Gigante)
 and Other Inland 'Sea-Serpents' (*Dormador or Black Boa)
338
14Apes in Green Hell (Possible Apes: Mono Rey
                                                     *And Mono Grande)
363


15The Mammoth of the Taiga (Possible Survival but Possibly Now Extinct)397


16Three Large Pygmies: the *Forest Rhinoceros (African Unicorn),
 the Water Elephant  (Forest elephant, known species)
and the Spotted Lion (Lions are a known species)
427
17The Nandi Bear, an East African Proteus (+Possible Unknown Brown Bear possibly involved, Brown bears are a known species)445
18Mngwa, the Strange One  (Possibly a giant Golden Cat in Mottled phase)495
*19The Little Hairy Men (*Gracile Australopithecus)503
*20The Dragon St George Did Not Kill (*Giant Monitor Lizard
                                                        *Unknown Robust Crocodile
                                                        *Unknown Giant Otter)
520
21Kongamato, the Last Flying Dragon  (Possible Freshwater Stingray)582


*22 *Vorompatra (>Lesser Elephant Bird),
*Tratratratra, (4 Possible Giant Lemur Survivals) etcetera

Sunday, 8 December 2013

More Longneck Reconstruction Comparisons 2

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Traditionally the Water Horse is an animal found near the water that looks like a horse. It looks pretty much EXACTLY like a horse but a little "Off" or "Deformed" and it can have such features as "Devilish" cloven hooves.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_Horse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelpie

The Water Horse from Wikipedia
It is my contention that the legend of the Water Horse was merely and Naturalistically a description of the moose (or elk in Europe) in suppost of this I have shown clear illustrations  of moose or elk from Scotland n the 700s and in the 1700s. It is also my contention that the symbolic "Pictish Beast" also shows a moose. Later on as the elk got rarer the stories took on more of a mystic and mythological slant, but reports of the creature continued in tradition on into modern times. At present there are some parts of the world where elk are still called "water horse" and "water cow"
 
 
 
The Long-necked Plesiosaur is a different creature and has a different mythology, as a "water Dragon", but more especially as a "sea serpent." It might seem that there is too great of a difference between the two for there to be any confusion, but in fact, a big moose has a body that is nearly comparable in size to a moderate-sized Plesiosaur such as the reports describe: 
 
But it is because we have a tradition in Cryptozoology that conflates the two, many authors have created a composite category for Freshwater monsters that they call Water Horses. Below is the illustration from Loren Coleman and Patrick Huyghe's book The Field Guide to Lake Monsters, Sea Serpents, and Other Mystery Denizens of the Deep(2003) under the heading "Water Horse":
 
(The female is supposed to be above and the male below)
However, the sizes given are extracted from sightings at sea (and they admittedly include accounts where the wake was not distinguished from the creature making the wake and so the estimated length as given is really the length of the wake in such estimates. In freshwater accounts the creatures are makedly smaller and Peter Costello's In Search of Lake Monsters suggests that the estimated length sould be shortened to up to 20 feet long for females and up to 30 feet long for males: Roy Mackal in The Monsters of Loch Ness similarly downsizes the size estimates to comparable lengths. These estimates for the length can be commonly downsized to 15 to 20 feet long as given by some authors and as specified in several sightings, especially those seen on land. At that point, the size estimates are low enough to plausibly be comparable to the sizes for elk or moose. Hence the comparison below. More importantly, the specifications of the head are that it is precisely the size and shape of a moose's head, and with several features specific to moose anatomy that are not found in seals.
 
 
 
In the case of Jay Cooney's Water horse illustration at Bizarre Zoology, the equivalent of Colemans' model  is  the creature in the artwork posted below:
 
 
The skull of the animal featured has some freatures which are shared with the skulls of moose and NOT with seals, and these include complete bony eye sockets and long low nostrils  projecting in front of where the teeth are (The front part of both jaws would be broken off). Both features are completely different from seals and in fact they ARE features as specified in the reports. The eyes are supposed to be situated high up on the head with definite bony sockets projecting around them, and the nostrils are at the tip of the long and overhanging snout, with the nostrils being very large and round when they are open. Furthermore this is the type of Sea serpent snout that is stated to have whiskers on it: this is stated by Pontoppidian and carried forward by Oudemans, who repeats him
(The Great Sea Serpent 1892, pages 135 for Pontoppidian and 141 for Oudemans)
 
 
 
 
This is essential the same comparison for Coleman's Water Horse and the moose as repeated for Cooney's version (The artist is Thomas Finlay, who does excellent work, and in this case he is merely illustrating what he has been told to illustrate) 
 
Below some of the characteristically mooselike features of the reports are pointed out, and this includes the ears and nostrils of an ungulate-basically belonging to a land animal and not well adapted to life at sea. The hump on the back at shoulders and hips is indicated, the upper parts of the limbs are alsi indicated, and the rear edge of the rear "Flipper" has the contour of the moose's hind leg": the end of the flipper also resembles a cloven hoof (Costello said "3-pronged" but he definitely included reports of cloven hooves when he said that) The tail is even somewhat indicative of a moose's tail and the "Beard" is indicated as part of the moustache when in the reports (such as in the case of Ogopogo) the beard definitely means the bell at the moose's throat. Several reports also include moose antlers, but most often the initial antler spikes in velvet.
 

 
As regards the length of the neck, the reconstruction which Cooney has is nowhere near as long as the reports Heuvelmans says are specifically Longnecks  but instead the length of the neck is comparable to the Merhorse category, which he considered to be separate. See the comparisons above and below
 
 
 
 
The length of the Longnecks neck is its most outstanding characteristic and it is comparably long in the presumably male Longnecked "Merhorse" (In the illustration below the mane is recognized as a fleshy material and it is called a "fin") In these cases, when the neck is in a vertical aspect to the water, the body is NOT stretched out horizontally behind it but it is presumably held at some angle approaching vertical in the water. In such cases the degree of underwater drag of the creature holding it in place relative to the wave action at surface is also noted "As if it was dragging a sea-anchor"
 
 
I have recently left some remarks pertaining to these matters at Jay Cooney's blog:
 

The portions underwater are inferable from indications at the surface and for the most part these proportions are consistent with one another over the past 250 years or more, and at scattered locations the whole world over, in many reports made independently from one another

 In this case the proportions of the Cuba Sea Serpent are compared to the general composite model. The Cuba SS was seen briefly all out of the water at one time when it breached.
 
Umfuli SS, after Captain Cringle

And I had also remarked that the proportions of the Umfuli SS wre also about the normal proportions with the head+ neck and the trunk each being about 15 feet long (NB some reproductions of the Captain's drawing also indicate specifically Plesiosaurian features of the head)

Cooney's model for Longnecks + Merhorses is compared below to the sections from the Cuba SS sighting specifically. This does not indicate the limbs although the witness noted that the creature's anatomy indicated where the foreflippers and hindflippers would be situated. I consider the neck profile drawn by the Captain in this case to be very much exemplary as showing the features of all the best and most accurate descriptions, and the head neck and body as shown to be well streamlined .


 
Below once again is my general-overall reconstruction identikit for the Longnecked Sea Serpents or Water Dragons generally, and with the specific Water Horse (Moose) reports subtracted. This is the outcome of several local statistical surveys based on In The Lake of The Sea Serpents and In Search of Lake Monsters done in the 1970s and I consider this model to be in good agreement with the creature models proposed by Dinsdale and Sanderson, and somewhat less to Gould's and Mackal's  versions of the Loch Ness Monsters and in the general ball park of agreeing with Oudemans' and Heuvelmans' models with allowances. When you get to the point of comparing Oudemans' and Heuvelmans' reconstructed models there are some very obvious conflicts in the reconstructions which are not in agreement with the reports and must needs be accounted for. This is all summarized from earlier blog postings which have discussed the matter before.

The tail is seen when diving and is then described as being divided into three  parts the third "Lobe" being the actual tail itself, or possibly only two "Prongs" will be reported" Costello has reports in either category and the "Snollygaster" (Among others) is also said to have this three-lobed tail.
 
 
 
 
And, just for good measure, here is that Plesiosaur illustration again, shown to scale with the Scottish version of the Master-Otter for scale
(Presumably the same as Burton's Monster otter. Illustration by Tim Morris on Deviant Art)

Thursday, 5 December 2013

Another Long Necked Seal

 
Jay Cooney put this picture up as his avatar on Facebook. I immediately wanted to know more about it and asked hin, which became a general discussion a sort time later
 
Dale Drinnon: Well, in case the question should arise, this would be a pretty good representation of the longnecked sea lion, but a female. Where did you find it? Scott-You did this?

Scott Mardis: I got it on the internet somewhere. I don't know who the artist is. I gave it to Gina and she posted it. Dale Drinnon That's a shame, I'd like to think it represented an actual sighting I'll post it on my blog and give you credit for finding it, that should smooth over a few things.

Scott Mardis There was a similar encounter reported by some navy man during the original Patagonian Plesiosaur flap 1922. He said it was sitting on ice, then jumped in the water. Somewhere at sea off Patagonia.

Dale Drinnon Yes I know the story, I had that already from the Patagonian Monsters site: it was at sea, and further South at the Straits of Magellan I think. Heuvelmans includes the sighting on his list but includes no details about it. Evidently he did not really know about the sighting or he would have made more of a fuss over it

Scott Mardis It's in the New York Times 1922.Probably March-April 1922. Don't know off the top of my head. Dale, if I remember right the eyewitness' last name was Bevilaqua. It's in Costello's book, too.

Dale Drinnon: I checked and Costello speaks of two sightings in these waters: the one in the New York Times was made by Bevilaqua but it was a Plesiosaur-shaped animal with the neck estimated as 30 feet long (Which Costello thought was an exaggeration) it did not jump off an iceberg, but it was frightened into view when a boulder fell into the sea on the coast. The one that Heuvelmans mentioned was seen by the Rhone and it only had a neck five feet long: it could well have been a creature like this one but this illustration has no connection to that sighting (Wholly in the water for the length of the sighting) Costello mentions both sightings, but he mentions nothing like this picture, which is almost certainly from that same general area
 

Above, Longnecked Seal image compared to 1919 Hoy Island SS sighgting (Periscope profile in red overlay) and to the left, the Periscope sighting at Loch Alsh, cited by the Hoy witness J Mackintosh Bell as being most like his sighting. Below, illustrations from Heuvelmans' book including my overlay of the Hoy SS and his reconstructed Longneck to help illustrate the difference in the lengths f the neck in either case. I consider the illustration featured here to be a much more plausible representation for a Longnecked seal than Heuvelmans' version, which has several mechanical problems associated with the depicted anatomy, and in the neck in particular. The larger creature's neck is probably twice the length of the neck of the smaller creature, relative to the size of the head (Which is the part most witnesses could compare)


 
 
I later found out that the source for the illustration was:
 

Tuesday, 26 November 2013

Basajaun and Iceman

 
Jay Cooney made this paste-up comparing the Basajaun photo from the Pyrenees mountains to the reconstrictions of the Minnesota Iceman as published by Bernard Heuvelmans. He subsequently decided not to publish the piece right away but gave me the permission to do so.
 


Jay BizarreZoo Cooney

Can you quickly tell me the main differences between the "real" iceman and the copy? I'm not gonna write much to go along with the comparison but I'd like to say that at least
 
Dale Drinnon

Very simple: Ivan Sanderson and Bernard Heuvelmans gave very long and very exacting descriptions of the original Iceman. Among its other features, it had apparently been shot in one eye and had the other eye bugged out of the socket. Nothing like that in the copy. Ivan Sanderson thought that the individual body hairs lightened in colour at the tip, a pattern similar to the fur of the agouti and called the agouti pattern. John Napier thought that was a suspicious reference and could indicate a model had been implanted with hairs from an agouti (a large South American rodent) in this new model there is nothing like that, the hairs are uniformly solid black and look like the hairs out of a wig. And among its other unusual features Sanderson noted a large pad or callus at the heel of the hand. Napier also thought that was suspicious, the now model does not show that. Not only is this model NOT the original, but it seems somebody has taken the pains to leave out all of the overly unusual or potentially suspicious traits [Jay Cooney said it was his impression that the original had its mouth shut not showing much of the teeth and the replacement model had its mouth more open and showing more of the teeth: he thought this was a significant enough difference to make an important point]

Whoever made up the new model was smart, but it seems like they were a little TOO smart and they gave themselves away because of it

Monday, 9 September 2013

Followup to "Megalotaria Longicollis"

I made up some more illustrations for Megalotaria after I had published the last blog entry
  I have settled on the idea that the female had something like the common seal colouration, being a greyish brown with scattered darker spots, and the male was more of a reddish brown with muted streaks of other lighter colours showing in the fur" the male has longer and coarser hair overall, but it seems the female also has a hairier neck. The mane in these animals is indicated to be lionlike, or generally all around the neck like a ruff, rather than horselike with just the stripe down the spine.
 
BTW this was another recent posting where I was attempting to make an earlier reconstruction of the type. I did have about the same body plan for the males and females, assuming the 1918 Hoy SS was female and the male should have a much thicker neck..
   http://frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2013/07/early-merhorse-art-by-thomas-finley-and.html
Here are two comparisons of the Hoy SS with a typical "Loch Ness Monster" Longneck, the one above with average size overall (Typical estimated adult females) and below is matching up the proportions going by the maximum width (And not going by comparative size). The Hoy SS's neck still comes out as being about half the length of the Longneck's neck by proportion.
 
And here is our reference chart to the other pinnipeds.The  Hoy SS type (Megalotaria) is about the bulk of a walrus, maximum sizeabout as much as an elephant seal, whereas the Longneck's body is about the same size as the elephant seal's but adding an elongated neck and tail onto that base.


Sunday, 8 September 2013

"Megalotaria longicollis"

Jay Cooney was circulating this on Facebook last night. I saw it and I said "If you're talking Hoy Sea Serpent, I'll buy that" It is an artwork of the Cryptid "Megalotaria longicollis" by Utahraptor on Deviant Art.
http://www.deviantart.com/morelikethis/artists/154174153?view_mode=2
Utahraptor did add "the real Nessie" to this but this is clearly NOT the same as the Loch Ness Monster since for one thing nothing like the male has ever been reported on Loch Ness. They are very like some IRISH sightings however, and probably some Australian and Tasmanian "Bunyips" also. Two things of note: like real sea lions the neck of the male is very THICK which is actually specified in reports of this type. And the length of the neck of the female is no more than four times its diameter. That's important, it would be the norm for this species and much shorter than the long necks of the Longnecks. The female is a mite too thin though, she has probably just pupped. As Heuvelmans notes, the big male is not more than three times the length of the pup and since we have a good substantial record of a young one about seven feet long, the big males would be expected to be twenty feet long and maybe a little more.

Since the female as drawn here does bear a resemblance to the Parson's Long Necked seal reprinted below, this is a plausible enough connection (The other drawing shows a plumper body and my feeling is also this female should have a plumper body.)

The hinder flippers are somewhat stylized but not too badly. This species has small spiky ear-pinnas but not the erectile nostrils stated by Heuvelmans. it has normal seal-like whiskers. The female could also have more developed hair on the neck but here it is slicked down as it is characteristically. Male shaggy fur and mostly reddish brown (a possible black circle around the eye is noted by Costello)and the female is more greyish-brown with darker spots.(The darker spots are still there but harder to see in the males which are uniformly darker overall)

"Long Necked Walrus" from Biological Marginalia, via Jay Cooney


They are huge seals, not quite so large as elephant seals but at least as large as walruses. Besides the
two geographic areas I mention, there is evidence of them in the North Sea and around Scandinavia, possibly near Florida (I am an NOT including Thomas Helm's SS but others would certainly include it), off South Africa and possibly off Patagonia. Austin Whittall speculates about Long necked sea lions as coming from Patagonia and the possibility that some of them could have been known as Iemisch (Yem'chen)but without any really good evidence. I would say that would be at least consistent
Text quoting from the book Patagonian Monsters

 
[NB: Upon checking, The Rhone Sea Serpent and others like it seen at the Straits of Magellan more closely match the reported dimensions of Megalotaria rather than the larger, commoner Longnecks]

http://patagoniamonsters.blogspot.com/2010/10/long-necked-seals-in-south-america.html

My first blog posting on this topic was
http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2009/11/dale-drinnon-two-long-necked-sea.html
and it included also reference to the Kivik Stone:

Sunday, 18 August 2013

More Water Moose sightings

Heuvelmans-sea-serpent-motley-Oct-2009

Know_your_Sea_Serpents_by_Pristichampsus
In both of the Sea Serpent charts above the "Merhorse" is the one at the lowest right hand corner.
Below is the "Merhorse" of the second chart by Tim Morris (Pristichampsus) and I have modified it slightly to match the other Merhorse in the other chart more (I could have made the head even larger and morse horselike, but I settled on a compromise: likewise I cut the tail in half as a compromise between not tail at all and the length of tail as illustrated) and I darkened the beard for emphasis because it is important (It represents the bell of the moose). In the chart below I think it makes a fair comparison with a moose, including even the legs and feet (the toes are clawed in the Pristichampsus drawing but it is hard to see how many: however it is easy enough to read the feet as cloven hooves.

 
The lowest end sizes for "Water Horses" seen at Loch Ness are actually about six feet long and six feet high in the body, which is a really good approximation for a not especially large moose. We are also assuming a predominance in sightings of cow moose without antlers. Peter Costello gives the sizes for a "Water Horse" (in his interpretation, the creature behind most freshwater sightings worldwide, or at least all over the Northern Hemisphere)  as about 18 feet long for the female, 30 feet long for the male (In Search of Lake Monsters page 288), which does make it just barely up to the lower end of Heuvelmans' Merhorse category: he is using Mackal's (LNIB) figures and applying the averages to all similar such creatures at Lake Okanogan, Lake Champlain, Lake Storsjon and all the rest. He assumes that all of the larger reported creatures have had their lengths doubled and he automatically cuts all larger estimates of length in half (as does Mackal). Cutting the 18-30 feet estimates in half yields  9 to 15 feet long, which is really good estimate for moose size. The  other extremes of long length at 50 to 100 feet (even sometimes 150 feet long or more) are also consistent with the reported lengths of wakes in this category, and the Merhorse sightings in general as given by Heuvelmans (In the Wake of the Sea Serpents p. 553).

 
 
 UNDERWATER MOOSE

There is currently a move to consider moose that habitually swim for long distances underwater as another population or a distinctly different sort of creature with different adaptations. Officially moose are held to be able to swim across wide lakes in the Canadian Wilderness, and even cross narrow straits and fjords along the coastline, the same as they do in Scandinavia. They are said to be able to dive down to twenty feet and stay submerged for a minute at a time: moose can also swim for a pretty good distance completely submerged and a swimming moose is supposed to be able to travel along at ten miles an hour (estimated). While I was assembling this article, I just so happened to cross postings with Chad Arment and he says he is even working on a book that will focus on the theme of underwater moose as Cryptids, and they evidently even feature as "Unexpected encounters" in a popular video game. However to counter this view, this seems to be a matter of some moose being more adept at swimming and diving than others, rather than any kind of a new species to be involved. My definition of Cryptid includes the provision that it must be a potentially completely new species to qualify, and not to be classifiable as any currently known species. Most moose have features which work against them exploiting underwater habits: they have not got flippers or webbed feet, they have widely-spreading hoofs, which are much less efficient as swimming fins. They are also very buoyant, and if they have taken a deep breath to stay down longer, they are even more buoyant. And videos that show moose spending a long time underwater show them as tending to bob back up to the surface eventually.
It is only sufficient for my purpose that some moose are unusually good swimmers, they like doing it, and some individual moose are trained and/or adapted to be especially good at swimming and diving.

"This one was for Canoe & Kayak Magazine. The story was about how a moose can
 swim twenty feet underwater… I guess you learn something new every day."
 
 Photos of a cow and a bull moose grazing at a depth of about 15 feet underwater.


  



Underwater Moose video. These are becoming more and more common and more and more popular lately.

NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC MYSTERY MOOSE
http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazine/ja06/indepth/default.asp

It is instructive to note that the Canadian Geographic (Canadian version of the National Geographic)
 includes a section on Cryptozoology and lake monsters under the heading of "Moose Facts"
and in fact some of the cited sources do speak of swimming moose as being the significant sources for some of the sightings at many of these lakes
http://www.canadiangeographic.ca/magazine/ja06/indepth/justthefacts.asp

JUST THE FACTS 

Moose Facts

 •  Moose have a life span of 15 to 25 years.
•  The average moose weighs between 550 to 700 kilograms.
•  Moose are the largest member of the deer family.
•  The flap of skin that hangs beneath a moose's throat is called a bell.
•  Only males have a rack of antlers. They are flattened and range from 120 to 150 centimetres across and weigh 20 kilograms. Their antlers may have as many as 30 tines (or spikes).
•  Each year, antlers are shed in November or December and another, slightly larger set begin to grow the next midsummer.
•  Moose live in every Canadian province.
•  Moose are very good swimmers and can easily swim 16 kilometres.[per hour]
•  Moose can run faster than 50 kilometres per hour.
•  Having poor eyesight, moose rely on their keen sense of smell.
•  A male moose is called a bull and a female moose is called a cow.
•  The word moose comes from the Algonquin word mooswa, which means "twig-eater."
•  Moose eat willow, birch and aspen twigs, horsetail, sedges, roots, pond weeds and grasses, leaves, twigs, buds and the bark of some woody plants, as well as lichens, aquatic plants and some of the taller herbaceous land plants.
•  Moose can feed under water.
•  Moose can dive more than five metres for food on a lake bottom.
•  It is estimated that there are between 500,000 and 1 million moose in Canada.
•  Unknown species of animals are referred to as cryptids.
•  The term cryptozoology was coined by Dr. Bernard Heuvelmans to scientifically describe his investigation of unknown species. It is not a recognized branch of zoology.
•  Cryptozoology is commonly grouped with paranormal research.
•  Many crytozoological phenomena are based on aboriginal legends.
•  Cryptids range from Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster to ivory-billed woodpeckers to more bizarre creatures, such as atmospheric beasts and werewolves.
•  The first recorded sighting of a Sasquatch was in 1811 near what is now the town of Jasper, Alta. A trader named David Thompson found some strange footprints, 36 centimetres long and 20 centimetres wide, with four toes, in the snow.
•  Bigfoot is said to stand 1.4 metres in height and weigh 58 kilograms and have long black, coarse hair covering its entire body.
•  Across western Canada, at least 19 water monsters have reputedly been spotted in three of the four provinces. Alberta has no reported cases.[Untrue]
•  Canada’s most famous water monster is Ogopogo of Lake Okanagan in the south central interior of British Columbia.
•  The first recorded sighting of Ogopogo by a Caucasian was by Mrs. John Allison in 1872.
•  The monster called Sicopogo lives in B.C.’s Shuswap Lake, not far from Kamloops.
•  Lake Memphrémagog — an international lake 113 kilometres east of Montréal located on the Canada-U.S. border — is said to be inhabited by a sea serpent.

Friday, 16 August 2013

Tyler Stone's Many Finned Photos

Tyler Stone was recently on vacation in Florida and he sent me these photos of dolphins (From many sources collected together) to demonstrate how easily they could create the appearance of a "Many-Finned Sea Serpent"









 



And this last one is a Basking shark taking on the conformation of the HMS Hillary Sea Serpent (Seen in WWI and sunk by a torpedo)