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Showing posts with label Patterson-Gimlin film. Show all posts
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Sunday, 15 June 2014

Another Patterson Film and Costume Comparison


The photo on the left just came to my Facebook page as a feature of the Ohio Bigfoot Conference: I immediately thought to make another demonstration by comparing it to the Patterson film "Patty"
The result is basically there is no comparison. Literally everything about the human being in the costume is wrong and does not remotely resemble the subject of the Patterson film. I sould point out especially the configuration of the head and face is all different, but also the limb and body proportions, the posture, stance and ease of movement are all different. The guy in the suit does not even show any obvious butt.

Saturday, 19 April 2014

Bigfoot Evidence: "Patty" Reconstruction by Bill Munns

Sunday, January 13, 2013

The "Patty" Recreation by Bill Munns


Editor’s Note: Nadia Moore has a degree in Zoology from U.C. Davis and currently works in Biotechnology. She has been a lifelong Bigfoot enthusiast, with her first personal experiences taking place in the Trinity Mountains of Northern California where she lived on a remote ranch during high school. She also a contributor to the After Hours show with Team Tazer.

We hope to have the presentation made by Bill Munns at Discovery Day V available for viewing in one form or another soon, ideally as part of a DVD including the whole conference. For those of you who don't know Bill's work, he studied Film and Theater Arts (16mm and some 35mm, with cameras, editing, sound, and equipment) at Los Angeles Valley College, studied Makeup Artistry with Mike Westmore, and began a career as a makeup artist at Universal Studios in 1969. He has an extensive Hollywood Resume including freelance Prosthetic Makeup work for the Blackenstein monster in the movie “Blackenstein” 1970.

Bills in depth research analyzing the Patterson Gimlin Film can be reviewed here at The Munns Report, as well as a list of his P&G Film accomplishments.

These pictures are from Bill's Discovery Day V presentation, as he discussed in great detail his recent work, made possible by a Grant arranged by Dr. Meldrum, in recreating the anatomy of "Patty" using live models for in depth comparisons between her movement and various natural versions of the human form, both male and female, clothed and sans clothing. He also made several chest panels using various synthetic materials available in 1967, in order to try and recreate a costume which would duplicate the appearance of Patty and her movement. The third branch of this project was the recreation of the "costume" described by Bob Heironimus in his claim that he was hired by Roger Patterson to be the object of Roger's film. Not only has Bob been unable to describe the actual location that the film was made, let alone how to get there, but Bill's work has now proven once and for all that the "costume" as described by Heironimus is structurally, anatomically, and logistically incapable of portraying what is in the famous 1967 Film.

Continue reading "The "Patty" Recreation by Bill Munns" at bigfootdiscoveryproject.blogspot.com.

(Note by Dale D. The recreated mask shown in Nadia's photograph at top does NOT adequately match the head of "Patty" as shown in the film. The relative size of the braincase is drastically larger than what the film shows, probably twice that size)

Tuesday, 3 December 2013

The Davis Report-Skin and hair

http://thedavisreport.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/the-davis-report-skin-and-hair/
Jay Cooney sent this link and brought this to my attention: Jay says that along with the subject in the Patterson film having an undersized cranium, she is also seen to open and close her mouth, an effect which would be difficult to achieve in a gorilla mask of the period

The Davis Report-Skin and hair

Here’s a clip with the film subject rotating in the sunlight. This clip shows a definite color to the skin and the “patchy” nature of the body hair. A suit…constructed in such a way would be very difficult, if not impossible to make with the technology of the day. Click on the image to animate

Copyright Patricia Patterson. Film work and stabilization by M.K.Davis

Thursday, 31 October 2013

PNW Sasquatch Illustration from Indiana Bigfooters




This illustration I take to be the same sort as the Patterson Sasquatch film female. Graywolf identifies this as "Painting from my Tlinget brothers Aunt" and adds "She lives on an Island by her self up by Ketchakan...said this was one of her friends..."
This is probably not so obvious but this type is larger and more massive, with a particularly large torso, and a smaller head which has not so large of a cranium as there is in the Easten type. The feet of this kind are also absolutely larger in size per the creature's height: this is the sort identified by Grover Krantz as Gigantopithecus (The type which he dealt with directly)

Monday, 14 October 2013

Bigfoot News From Robert Lindsay

According to Robert Lindsay, this news just in - the body of an Orang Pendek has been kept by scientists for the past 17 years!! Also a new photograph from New Mexico, the Harris photograph, has appeared and looks worthy of discussion. As well as this, there is more on Matilda the presumed Wookie costume.  Read Robert's latest news blog to see what it is happening right now......
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/bigfoot-news-october-14-2013/
 
brenda-harris-bf-1
 
BIGFOOT NEWS - 14TH OCTOBER 2013
robertlindsay.wordpress.com
 
Wildlife conservation organization has had the body of an Orang Pendek for 17 years! The Wildlife Conservation Service out of New York is a conservation organization that works to protect habitat and wildlife all over the world. One of the places they work is Sumatra. In Sumatra, one of the places they work is the Barisan Mountains in southern Sumatra....
 
 
[DD Adds: the statements being made about this apparent Orang Pendek so far read as if the people in charge of the body are not certain if it is any different from the ordinary orangutans that live in Sumatra. The DNA tests are meant to confirm or deny that possibility.
 
Robert says the object in Brenda Harris' photograph looks like a Bigfoot. By that I suppose he means it looks like Harry out of Harry and the Hendersons. Although details are difficult to make out, the proportions of the head and shoulders are consistent with the head and shoulders of an ordinary human being.Thy are not inconsistent with a person in a costume. The Bigfoot in this photo does not look like the head and shoulders of the female in the Patterson-Gimlin film, which ARE  INCOMPATIBLE with  the head and shoulders of an ordinary human being and hence not likely to be a person in a costume because of that]

            Harry and Patty: No Comparison, Harry is the Big Head as vs the Bigfoot!
             (These are reduced to the point where the faces are about the same size)

Sunday, 13 October 2013

Patty Comparison


Jay Cooney was in a discussion on facebook concerning the allegation that a costume and a hooded mask could be provided that was a good match for the figure in the Patterson-Gimlin film. A photographic comparison was provided. I came along later and I cut only the heads for direct comparison. I maintain that not only does the hooded head of the human subject come up more obviously vertically to a much lower crown, the braincase indicated in the Patterson female's head could not possibly house a brain of average human dimensions
In these photos, the Patterson film female is in the photos to the right and in sepia tones, the human in a costume is to the left in the photo in the green-toned photos.
                                                                      

Sunday, 18 August 2013

Bigfoot Boob Bounce and More



Note from Poster of Video:" I have attempted to show the bounce of Patty's breast. Real of fake you can decide for yourself but the breasts do appear to be moving."

At the same time I got this I also found this following video of Bill Munns' analysis. From what I have heard of Munns' studies he makes some excellent points and I concur 100% with everything he has said that I have heard so far, and on several points we have both made the same arguments separately and we have published separately. I think that part is pretty important to realize also.


Friday, 24 May 2013

Bill Munns on Patterson-Gimlin Film

Bigfoot: Fact or Fiction? Patterson Film Analyzed




Bigfoot researcher, computer animator, and Hollywood costume designer Bill Munns receives access to the original Patterson-Gimlin film to thoroughly exam.


Saturday, 11 May 2013

Bizzare Zoology: Patty is Real

Jay Cooney has posted something on his blog that seems to cinch the matter of the sibject in the Patterson-Gimlin film as being real and not a man in the suit on his blog, Bizzare Zoology:
http://bizarrezoology.blogspot.com/2013/05/incredible-evidence-toe-extension-of.html

Thursday, 25 April 2013

The Thing in the Fur Suit (Supposedly)

There have been several claims that a man in  costume was filmed in the Patterson-Gimlin Sasquatch  footage of 1967. I have criticised the notion before and I just came across some more information on that score. I have some illustrations from Bill Munn's demonstrations on the topic and I noticed something that I don't believe has been remarked upon before.

 
Above, the subject in the Patterson-Gimlin film
 Here is a page of Bill Munns' study which normalises the superimposed skeleton used in the Patterson-Gimlin film analysis into a regular human figure with the skin still on it:

 And here are the blowups of the same for clarity.







 
Anybody get a good close look at what is meant to represent a human being wearing the costume? Here is a comparison with one of the famous serial photographs of a man walking taken by Edward Muybridge in the 1880's. The colour figure is from Study frame 4, Film Frame 352


THAT is certainly not a typical human being, it resembles some sort of vastly enlarged hairless gibbon! The head is undersized, neck too short, torso too long, arms too long, legs too short and especially the legs are too short from the knee down, in comparison to most humans, even very tall ones. Below is a comparison with Leonardo Da Vinci's famous drawing of the so-called Universal Man where the distinctions will be more apparent. My reaction was an almost immediate "WTF??"


AND while this very strange human figure was meant to demonstrate how a human being could wear the suit, it is clearly still not a good fit because the hands of the figure still do not fit into Patty's hands, the shoulders and hips do not fit into Patty's shoulders and hips, the feet stick out beyond the place where Patty's feet are, and the head does not properly fit into the hood or mask of the supposed costume.

To reiterate what I have said on the subject before, "Patty" shows every sign to be identical to the creature leaving the typical Sasquatch tracks and to Grover Krantz's Gigantopithecus, and I reprint a couple of comparisons I have shown on the subject earlier (I believe these also came via the courtesy of Doctor Don Jeff Meldrum and they are both pretty conclusive)


 This last comparison definitely shows "Patty" in the process of making the tracks that were later attributed to her on the site where the film was taken.

Tuesday, 8 January 2013

Bigfoot Evidence: Experts enhanced and re-analyzed original Patterson footage

Friday, April 15, 2011

Experts enhanced and re-analyzed original Patterson footage

 
Experts take the original Patterson-Gimlin footage and enhanced it for a scientific breakdown. Watch what these experts have to say after putting the film under a microscope.
 
 
Also just posted on Facebook:
Matthew A Johnson

THE PATTERSON/GIMLIN FILM IS LEGITIMATE

("Patty" is the real deal)

Mark Hubbard Not to be bragging or anything but I'm the one that put that video together and posted it on Youtube ! So thank you Matt for linking it !

Monday, 24 December 2012

Forensic Expert Says Bigfoot Is Real

Forensic Expert Says Bigfoot Is Real

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/10/1023_031023_bigfoot_2.html

(National Geographic)


Stefan Lovgren
for National Geographic News
October 23, 2003
It's been the subject of campfire stories for decades. A camera-elusive, grooming-challenged, bipedal ape-man that roams the mountain regions of North America. Some call it Sasquatch. Others know it as Bigfoot.Thousands of people claim to have seen the hairy hominoid, but the evidence of its existence is fuzzy. There are few clear photographs of the oversized beast. No bones have ever been found. Countless pranksters have admitted to faking footprints.
Yet a small but vociferous number of scientists remain undeterred. Risking ridicule from other academics, they propose that there's enough forensic evidence to warrant something that has never been done: a comprehensive, scientific study to determine if the legendary primate actually exists.
"Given the scientific evidence that I have examined, I'm convinced there's a creature out there that is yet to be identified," said Jeff Meldrum, a professor of anatomy and anthropology at Idaho State University in Pocatello.

Thousands of Sightings
Sasquatch stories go back centuries. Tales of mythical giant apes lurk in the oral traditions of most Native American tribes, as well as in Europe and Asia. The Himalaya has its Abominable Snowman, or the Yeti. In Australia, Bigfoot is known as the Yowie Man.Bigfoot advocates hypothesize that the primate is the offspring of an ape from Asia that wandered to North America during the Ice Age. They believe there are at least 2,000 ape men walking upright in North America's woods today.An adult male is said to be at least 8 feet (2.4 meters) tall, weigh 800 pounds (360 kilograms), and have feet twice the size of a human's. The creatures are described as shy and nocturnal, and their diets consist mostly of berries and fruits.Matt Moneymaker had been searching for Bigfoot for years. In the woods of eastern Ohio, he claims he finally came eye to eye with the elusive primate."It was 2 o'clock in the morning and the moon was a quarter full," recalled Moneymaker. "Suddenly, there he was, an eight-foot-tall creature, standing 15 feet away, growling at me. He wanted to let me know I was in the wrong place."Moneymaker, who lives in Dana Point in southern California, is a lawyer who runs his own marketing agency. In his spare time, he leads the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization, a network of more than 3,000 people who claim to have seen the Sasquatch.Unfortunately, no one has been able to snap a clear picture of the beast.
Perhaps the most compelling photographic evidence of Bigfoot is a controversial short film shot by Roger Patterson in 1967, which appears to document a female Bigfoot striding along a riverbank in northern California.

"It certainly wasn't human"
Now, Bigfoot advocates are increasingly turning to forensic evidence to prove the existence of the giant creature.
Investigator Jimmy Chilcutt of the Conroe Police Department in Texas, who specializes in finger- and footprints, has analyzed the more than 150 casts of Bigfoot prints that Meldrum, the Idaho State professor, keeps in a laboratory.Chilcutt says one footprint found in 1987 in Walla Walla in Washington State has convinced him that Bigfoot is real."The ridge flow pattern and the texture was completely different from anything I've ever seen," he said. "It certainly wasn't human, and of no known primate that I've examined. The print ridges flowed lengthwise along the foot, unlike human prints, which flow across. The texture of the ridges was about twice the thickness of a human, which indicated that this animal has a real thick skin."Meldrum, meanwhile, says a 400-pound (180-kilogram) block of plaster known as the Skookum Cast provides further evidence of Bigfoot's existence. The cast was made in September 2000 from an impression of a large animal that had apparently lain down on its side to retrieve some fruit next to a mud hole in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest in Washington State. Meldrum says the cast contains recognizable impressions of a forearm, a thigh, buttocks, an Achilles tendon and heel. "It's 40 to 50 percent bigger than a normal human," he said. "The anatomy doesn't jive with any known animal."A few academics believe Meldrum could be right.Renowned chimpanzee researcher Jane Goodall last year surprised an interviewer from National Public Radio when she said she was sure that large, undiscovered primates, such as the Yeti or Sasquatch, exist.

The Skeptics
But the vast majority of scientists still believe Bigfoot is little more than supermarket tabloid fodder. They wonder why no Bigfoot has ever been captured, dead or alive."The bottom line is, they don't have a body," said Michael Dennett, who writes for Skeptical Inquirer magazine and who has followed the Bigfoot debate for 20 years. Bigfoot buffs note that it's rare to find a carcass of a grizzly bear in the wild. While that's true, grizzlies have not escaped photographic documentation. Hair samples that have been recovered from alleged Bigfoot encounters have turned out to come from elk, bears or cows. Many of the sightings and footprints, meanwhile, have proved to be hoaxes. After Bigfoot tracker Ray Wallace died in a California nursing home last year, his children finally announced that their prank-loving dad had created the modern myth of Bigfoot when he used a pair of carved wooden feet to create a track of giant footprints in a northern California logging camp in 1958.Dennett says he's not surprised by the flood of Bigfoot sightings. "It's the same kind of eyewitness reports we see for the Loch Ness Sea Monster, UFOs, ghosts, you name it," he said. "The monster thing is a universal product of the human mind. We hear such stories from around the world."

Thursday, 4 October 2012

Igor Burtsev and The Patterson Film on its Anniversary

 
Igor Burtsev recently posted a new album on his Facebook wall:

Patterson-Gimlin Film Studied in Russia in 1970s till now

Updated on Sunday [September 30]

This album dedicated to 45th Anniversary of Patterson-Gimlin film of October 20, 1967
[Reprinted with Permission]

 
 
Rene Dahinden while in Moscow on Dec 1971/ Me [Igor] sitting. Bayanov, Koffman, Rene standing
 
To the frame at the top, Igor added the note "This frame first had attracted our attention, nobody in America noticed it that time" and I then said "Well *I* for one noticed it" and I went on to explain:
 "What I always refer to in this frame is the fact that the cranium is far too small to fit a normal human head into, which would have been the case of a man wearing a suit. A man in a suit cannot have a smaller head inside the suit than when he has it off (Be careful of the green/brown color break on the back profile, too: the size of the head is even less than it seems at first)"
 
 
And then this one: "This is real frame from the film, not photoshopped (there was not at that time), just made with more light in photo-enlarger. You can see here the face features"
[Part of the darkened area behind the neck and shoulders is due to the shadow of a log in the background and this is clearly discerned in the coloured original frame-DD]

 
"First sculpture created by me" [Not all sculptures shown from this series]

 
"Back view of my statue"[All the statues ARE very good even if I did not include them all]
 
"For positions in consecutive order on the single background"
 
"Comparing Patty with an actor in suit (left) and S. Williams"
[Patty's proportions are NOTHING like the actor in a suit]
 
 
"Face in the film close up (MK Davis)" ARTIST'S CONCEPTION
 
 
The portrait painted by Lidia Burtseva with oil colours 70x70 cm size — with Lidiya Burtseva.
 
Now please allow me to present some of my own extractions on the matter:

Here is the direct comparison. The fancier version invents a whole range of features which simply are not indicated in the original. The crown of the head is especially larger and fuller, these two versions are matched to the same size and position of the face. And there is no reason to assume a projecting nose or well-formed lips in the original.

 
P/G, the Colour Breaks. Directly from the film frame with no other modifications.
When Patty turns her head her head is also very short back-to-front. The cranium is VERY small compared to the face, well below the norm for humans. Which is actually a point in the film's
 favour, since an ordinary human skull will not fit into the space allotted

 
 
Cross section of the "Bleached" still, skull in sagittal section is indicated:
The peak of the head is directly above the rear corrner of the mandible or jaw bone, and the jaw as indicated is a fair match for Gigantopithecus. The zygomatic arch (Cheekbone) is HUGE and the jaws proportionately much larger than in the human norm. Correspondingly also the cranial capacity is very low and I would estimate it as being in the vicinity of the Homo erectus cranial capacity at most. It is an exceedingly small cranium (The size and shape are clearly indicated) and much flatter than any human skull should be above the eyes. The horizontal bar at right angles to the vertical bar indicates the normal back-to-front axis of the skull. the top sides of the skull are also indicated as steeply sloped apart near the peak.


Monday, 20 February 2012

Return to The Long Walk.

Sketch by Zoologist Dr. Wladimir Tschernezky
from Slavomir Rawicz’s description


Last time I reviewed this story I had tentatively come to the conclusion that the story of The Long Walk was a composite of several Polish men's WWII experiences and that it would not be necessary for Rawicz to have actually gone on the Long Walk for him to have witnessed two large "Snowman" creatures in Tibet/crossing over the Himalayas into India. Since all that is really pertinent for Cryptozoologists would be that part alone, the question becomes "COULD Rawicz have seen the creatures in 1942 as he said he did?" and the circumstantial evidence (partly as supporting statements from his family) seems to be, oddly enough, yes he could have seen the creatures in 1942, he seems to have really believed it and what is more, his description includes many anatomical features which would not be commonly recognised in reports of such creatures at the time the book was published, nor indeed really established for another decade following that publication date.

I DO think that the ghost writer combined accounts from several individuals to make the story of The Long Walk, in order to make a better story. And that is part of the problem, because the different men actually experienced different parts of the composite story and not others. Hence it makes sense to me if one man told parts of the long and arduous journey across Asia, but not the "Snowman" part, while on the other hand Rawicz legitimately told of a "Snowman" encounter separately.
The account includes the description:
"At close range they defied facile description. There was something both of the bear and the ape about the general shape, but they could not be mistaken for either. The color was a rusty kind of brown. They appeared to be covered by two distinct kinds of hair - -the reddish hair which gave them their characteristic color forming a tight close fur against the body, mingling with which were long loose straight hairs hanging downwards, which had a slight grayish tinge as the light caught them. They were doing nothing but moving around slowly together, occasionally stopping to look around them like people admiring a view. Their heads turned towards us now and again but their interest in us seemed to be of the slightest. I looked back and the pair was standing still, arms swinging slightly as though listening intently."
Now my comment is this: Rawicz's description strongly resembles the Patterson-Gimlin female creature but the film was made TEN YEARS AFTER RAWICZ'S BOOK WAS PUBLISHED. Rawicz could NOT have been "copying  stories of the Abominable Snowmen and/or Sasquatches" because at the time he dictated his part of the book no such comparable descriptions or graphic representations actually existed.

The described actions of the "Snowmen" also match the actions that can be seen to occur in the Patterson-Gimlin film exactly. And their body fur has the "grizzled" effect that Sanderson remarks upon, although I suspect that would have been on the larger one rather than on both of them.

And my assertion following this is that the mere fact that we have such a situation tends to reinforce either observation as probably independantly viewing representatives of the same species of creature in two of its major known ranges: The NW Coast area of North America and in Tibet.

Because we have this rather peculiar situation involved in the documentation of Rawicz's report, I shall include the Wikipedia entry reproduced below.

Sławomir Rawicz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%82awomir_Rawicz

Sławomir Rawicz (1915–2004) was a Polish Army lieutenant who was imprisoned by the Soviets after the German-Soviet invasion of Poland. In a ghost-written book called The Long Walk, he claimed that in 1941 he and six others had escaped from a Siberian Gulag camp and walked over 6,500 km (4,000 mi) south, through the Gobi Desert, Tibet, and the Himalayas to finally reach British India in the winter of 1942. In 2006, BBC released a report based on former Soviet records, including "statements" allegedly written by Rawicz himself, showing that Rawicz had been released as part of the 1942 general amnesty of Poles in the USSR and subsequently transported across the Caspian Sea to a refugee camp in Iran and that his escape to India never occurred.[1]
In May 2009, Witold Gliński, a Polish WWII veteran living in the UK, came forward to claim that the story of Rawicz was true, but was actually an account of what happened to him, not Rawicz. Gliński's claims have been questioned by various sources, most notably his employees at the marmalade factory he managed throughout the period in question.[2][3]

Early life and army career

Sławomir Rawicz was born on 1 September 1915 in Warsaw, the son of a landowner. He received private primary education and went on to study architecture in 1932. In 1937 he joined the Polish Army Reserve and underwent the cadet officer school. In July 1939 he married Vera, his first wife. She went missing during WWII.
According to his account, when Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union defeated Poland, Rawicz returned home, where the NKVD arrested him on November 19, 1939. He was taken to Minsk, then sent to Kharkov for interrogation, then to the Lubyanka prison in Moscow, where he was put on rigged trial. He was tortured to make him confess to being a spy which initially was unsuccessful. He was sentenced to 25 years of hard labour in a Siberian prison camp, ostensibly for espionage as were thousands of others. Though the researchers for the BBC Radio program The Long Walk in 2006 unearthed documents indicating that the charge against Rawicz may have been for killing, in the defence of his country, a Russian NKVD officer.[4]

The Long Walk - Escape from the Gulag camp and walk to India

According to the account in the book, Rawicz was transported, alongside thousands of others, to Irkutsk and made to walk to the Gulag Camp 303, which was 650 km south of the Arctic Circle. His labour duties in the camp included the construction of the prisoners' barracks, the manufacture of skis for the Russian army, and the repair and operation of the camp commandant's radio.
In The Long Walk, Rawicz describes how he and six companions escaped from the camp in the middle of a blizzard in 1941 and headed south, avoiding towns.[5] The fugitive party included three Polish soldiers, a Latvian landowner, a Lithuanian architect, and an enigmatic US metro engineer called "Mr. Smith"; they were later joined by a 17-year-old Polish girl, Krystyna.[6][7] They journeyed from Siberia to India crossing the Gobi Desert and Himalayas. Four of the group died, two in the Gobi, two in the Himalayas.[8][9] The book also mentions the spotting of a pair of yeti-like creatures in the Himalayas.
According to the book, four survivors of the 11-month trek reached British India around March 1942 and stumbled upon a Gurkha patrol.[10] They were taken to a hospital in Calcutta. Once released from the hospital, the survivors went their own ways. Some were still permanently sick from the torture they had faced at the Russian camp.

WWII activities after imprisonment

According to Rawicz, he moved from India to Iraq, then re-entered the Soviet Union in June 1942 and rejoined the Polish Army on July 24, 1942 at Kermini. He then returned to Iraq with Polish troops and moved on to Palestine, where he spent time recovering in a hospital and teaching in a military school. He claimed that General Władysław Anders had recommended his transfer to Britain for training as a pilot of the Polish Air Forces in Great Britain.

Historical records

Soviet records confirm that Rawicz was a Polish soldier imprisoned in the USSR, but differ from The Long Walk in detail on the reasons for his arrest and the exact places of imprisonment. Polish Army records show that Rawicz left the USSR directly for Iran in 1942, which contradicts the book's storyline. Aside from matters concerning his health, his arrival in Palestine is verified by the records. The story of the escape to India comes from Rawicz himself. The BBC report does mention the account of Captain Rupert Mayne, an intelligence officer in Calcutta, who - years after the war - said that in 1942 he had debriefed three emaciated men claiming to have escaped from a Siberian Gulag camp.[1]  [It is also not unusual for Gulag records to have been falsified-DD]

Postwar life

After the war he settled in Sandiacre, Nottingham, England and worked at the Nottingham Design Centre. He married Marjorie Gregory née Needham in 1947; they had five children. In the early 1970s he became a technician at the Architectural Ceramics course at Nottingham Trent University School of Art and Design. A heart attack forced him into early retirement in 1975. He lived a quiet life with his family, giving public talks and answering fan mail, until his death on 5 April 2004.

The Long Walk

The Long Walk was ghost-written by Ronald Downing based on conversations with Rawicz. It was released in the UK in 1956 and has sold over half a million copies worldwide and has been translated into 25 languages.[1] The film, The Way Back, directed by Peter Weir was inspired by the story and released in late 2010.[11]
Over the years, critics of the book's accuracy have included Peter Fleming (the brother of Ian Fleming), Eric Shipton and Hugh E. Richardson, a British diplomat stationed in Lhasa.[12]

Bibliography

See also

References

  1. ^ a b c Levinson, Hugh (October 30, 2006). "Walking the talk?". BBC News, International version. BBC News. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/6098218.stm. Retrieved Jan 18, 2009.
  2. ^ Dennis Ellam and Adam Lee Potter (16 May 2009). "The Greatest Escape - war hero who walked 4,000 miles from Siberian death camp". Mirror.co.uk. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/05/16/the-greatest-escape-war-hero-who-walked-4-000-miles-from-siberian-death-camp-115875-21364916/.
  3. ^ Скрадзенае жыццё Вітальда Глінскага (Belarusian)
  4. ^ BBC Radio "The missing link came through documents discovered by an American researcher, Linda Willis, in Polish and Russian archives. One, in Rawicz's own hand described how he was released from the gulag in 1942, apparently as part of a general amnesty for Polish soldiers. These are backed up by his amnesty document and a permit to travel to rejoin the Polish Army. These papers make it almost impossible to believe that Rawicz escaped, unless there is a case of mistaken identity. However, the name and place and date of birth all match. The documents also show that rather than being imprisoned on trumped-up charges as he claimed, Rawicz was actually sent to the gulag for killing an officer with the NKVD, the forerunner of the Soviet secret police, the KGB." [This would have made him a War Hero for the Polish, of course-DD]
  5. ^ Amazing escapes: illustrated with photographs and prints Thomas G. Gunning - 1984 "On a snowy night in April of 1941 , Slav and six other prisoners — Sigmund Makowski, Anastazi Kolemenos, Anton Paluchowicz, Eugene Zaro, Zacharius Marchinkovas, and Smith, an American who never gave his first name — crept out of their ..."
  6. ^ Spectator 1956 "They were Smith (50), an American civil engineer; Paluchowicz (41), a sergeant in the Polish cavalry; Makowski (37), an officer of the Polish Frontier Force; Zaro (30), 'a Yugoslav, I think'; Marchinkovas (28), a Lithuanian architect;"
  7. ^ The Economist 1956 "Kolemenos, the fourteen stone Latvian landowner, " a kind and helpful giant of a man " ; Makowski, the precise Polish army captain, Paluchowicz, " tough, toothless, devout, old Paluchowicz," the sergeant of Polish cavalry ; Zaro, the Jugoslav clerk and resilient humorist of the party ; Marchinkovas, the Lithuanian architect"
  8. ^ The Spectator: 1956 "Rawicz, with the unflamboyant help of Mr. Ronald Downing, tells their astonishing story in The Long Walk,"... "The Lithuanian died in his sleep one night, and they lost the toothless, indomitable Paluchowicz down a crevasse."
  9. ^ The Long Walk "I saw Paluchowicz reach the end of the slope. I turned to Zaro and in that instant saw the rope jerk about the sticks and become slack ... But Paluchowicz had vanished. Like fools we stood there calling out his name. No one answered."
  10. ^ Life Is... p101 Ray Rouse - 2007 "That decision meant walking four thousand miles under extremely difficult conditions in order to gain freedom. Marchinkovas, Makowski, and Paluchowicz failed the test. Rawicz, Smith, Kolemenos, and Zaro passed it and lived."
  11. ^ http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1023114/
  12. ^ Symmes, Patrick (January 2003). "To Tell the Truth Is it fact or is it fiction? The perplexing story behind The Long Walk.". Outside online - Canon Fodder. Mariah Media Inc.. http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/To-Tell-the-Truth.html. Retrieved Dec 16, 2011.

Further reading

  • Freedom Trek Grigg, William Norman Apr 19, 2004 The New American [1]

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In 1941, Slavomir Rawicz escaped from a Soviet Union gulag (prison camp) with 6 other inmates. Over the next year they traveled on foot through the frozen tundra of Siberia, across the scorching Gobi desert and finally over the mountains of the Himalaya to India and freedom. Rawicz and his group had no supplies except for a knife, axe, the cloths on their backs and the determination that arises when there are no other options.
Later Rawicz published a book about his trek The Long Walk: A true story of a Trek to Freedom.
Many people questioned the validity of such an epic tale of survival and I wanted to see if such a journey was possible. On September 9, 2004 Lauren Ditolla, Ant Chapin and Keri Bean and I flew to Moscow to begin an 8,000-mile journey re-tracing the route taken by Slavomir Rawicz. We spent three months using various forms of transportation including our own feet, rickshaws, camels, horses, bicycles, hydrofoils, trains, planes and automobiles to re-trace Slavomir’s footsteps. In addition, we worked with Medicines Global (GB) providing medical supplies to remote communities along the way.
Despite extensive research before and during our expedition, we found no concrete evidence to support or deny Rawicz’s story. In the end, we compared the descriptions of the people and landscapes we encountered to what Rawicz described in the book and then asked the question, was it possible? The book was written by a ghost writer Ronald Downing. The author might have distorted the timeline and embellished some of the events to make the book a more exciting read. Our overall view is, with the help of the locals living in the region, it was possible that Rawicz and his companions might have able to travel through the difficult terrain described in the book.

In present western society daily life has been comfortized to such a degree that most people cannot imagine what Rawicz went through. Today even though modern explorers have a quiver of high tech tools at their disposal to aid in their conquests, they usually lack the most powerful motivation that Rawicz and his companions carried: succeed or die.

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Since I returned from this expedition there have been several articles and books challenging whether Rawicz really completed the Long Walk. In 2006, the BBC uncovered documents that placed Rawicz in other locations during the time period in which the Long Walk supposedly took place. Last year John Dyson contacted me about an upcoming article he was writing for Readers Digest in which he interviewed another Polish man living in England who claimed the Long Walk was based on his epic trek from Siberia to India. On Jan 21, 2011 a new Hollywood movie based on the Long Walk will premiere in theaters across the US and the interest in the Long Walk will certainly be piqued again! Explorer Mikael Strandberg is writing a series of articles on his website and at www.exploreres.com
 http://hikinginthesmokys.blogspot.com/2010/12/fridays-video-long-walk.html

Friday, December 3, 2010


Friday's Video: The Long Walk


What do you consider to be a long walk? A hike to Laurel Falls? Most would definitely say the Appalachian Trail would qualify. But what about a 4000-mile slog across the frozen Siberian tundra, the Gobi desert, through Tibet, and then over the Himalayan Mountains to British India to gain your freedom?

That's exactly what a couple of Polish escapees from a Soviet Gulag did in 1940.

The story became the subject of one of my all time favorite books; "
The Long Walk."

The book has now inspired a new movie, due out in January, called "The Way Back," starring Jim Sturgess, Colin Farrell, Ed Harris, and Saoirse Ronan (see the trailer below).
Ever since The Long Walk was published in 1956 its authenticity has been challenged. The protagonist of the story, Slavomir Rawicz, was never able to provide any documentation to prove his story. However, it does seem that the general consensus among most critics is that the story is mostly true, but, possibly embellished. It’s even possible that the embellishment occurred at the hand of his English speaking ghost-writer.

For an interesting perspective on the veracity of the story from someone who retraced the steps of Rawicz in 2004, and who came to believe the story to be true, check out Dave Anderson's
trip journal (see his final thoughts at the bottom of the page).

However, to throw a wrench into Mr. Anderson's conclusions, a Polish WWII veteran by the name of Witold Gliński apparently publicly claimed in 2009 that the story was true, but it had actually happened to him, not Rawicz. Moreover, the ExplorersWeb website has this nugget of information:

After Rawicz died in 2006, a BBC radio documentary uncovered proof that he was lying – military records showed that he was serving in Persia at the time of the escape. The best explanation is that Rawicz read Witold’s genuine account of the escape, in official papers that he found in the Polish Embassy in London during the war. Witold knew his story had been stolen. But he never protested because he wanted to forget the war and concentrate on his new life.

This piece of information was included as part of an interview with Tomasz Grzywaczewski, one of three Poles who recently retraced the escape route themselves, and have made it their mission to show the world that the real hero of the Great Escape was actually Witold Gliński. You can read that interview by
clicking here.

No matter who the story is about, or how much embellishment was involved, The Long Walk is still a great read and an incredible story.

One last tidbit: the story is also famous for the claim that the surviving escapees saw a pair of yetis while traversing the Himalayas.....

Here's the trailer from the movie:





"Until his death in 2004, Rawicz managed to avoid most of the critics, by either saying he had forgotten details, blamed the ghostwriter Downing for embellishing the truth or just by ignoring the questions which gathered more strength by the day. But, all along, he maintained that he had [told Downing a true account]"

Sunday, 29 January 2012

Biped Zoo Gorilla Throws Light on Filmstar Patty

Walk Like a Man: Gorilla Walks Upright on Video

Most Gorillas knuckle-walk, using both their legs and their long arms, putting pressure on their knuckles, with the fingers rolled into the hand. Many have seen this type of gait. On the other hand, gorillas rarely walk using only their legs, though it is not unknown.
However, the fact that Ambam, a silverback western lowland gorilla at The Aspinall Foundation's Port Lympne Wild Animal Park in Kent, southeast England, walks upright, like a person, has been captured on video and spread to YouTube has made both the park and Ambam a gorilla. Still, as the zoo notes, it's not all that unusual.



In a press release, gorilla keep Phil Ridges said, "All gorillas can do it to some extent. But we haven't got any who do it like Ambam, and he is quite a celebrity at the park."
Ambam is 21. Ridges adds that Ambam's father also exhibited the same behavior. "Ambam's father Bitam used to display the same behaviour if he had handfuls of food to carry. Ambam also has a full sister, Tamba, and a half sister at Howletts, who also sometimes stand and walk in the same way. "
Ambam hasn't decided to emulate any more lyrics from the Frankie Valli & The Four Seasons song. One of the other lines is "Talk like a man."
Silverback western lowland gorillas are endangered, as you might expect, and the park is asking those who might appreciate Ambam's newly publicized gait to help them, and adopt one. Such adoptions can be made at this link.



This unusual behaviour for a gorilla does afford us one important feature in a Cryptozoological sense: we can compare how Ambam looks walking upright to the longer-legged Sasquatch filmed by Roger Patterson and Bob Gimlin in 1967, "Patty"

Many viewers note that "Patty's" top part looks overall like a gorilla and often skeptics use this to say that Patty's anatomy is impossible since Gorillas are not capable of walking upright, their center off gravty is too low (Napier says this famously in his book, Bigfoot) Skeptics say that Patty must be a man wearing a gorilla suit. I don't think so because Patty's top part has more anatomical resemblances to an actual gorilla than to any gorilla suit ever made.

One of the features that Patty shares with Ambam is the way that they both can swing their arms while walking. Patty's legs ARE much longer than Ambam and she obviously has a better adaptation for walking on them and a smoother gait. However now it cannot be said that Patty's build is too top-heavy for prolonged upright walking.

Patty's anatomy is also different in that she has developed prominent buttocks behind. Yet even there, it can be seen that the way her mid-back and upper pelvis are made arre much like the gorilla. In particular, this is the reason why she has the priominent crease at her middle and the "Baggy Pants" look under that: Ambam actually shows both of the same features, although his gluteus maximus muscles are located in a different position and aimed down when he is standing up.

Following is a series of parallel photo pasteups to show Ambam and Patty compared together while walking.
 
 and slightly larger:
 

Here is a series of comparisons from the Amazing Randi discussion boards: pasteups which started off in an attempt to make it look like the Patterson film showed a man inside a suit but have been through the mill a few rounds by this point. point out here that somebody went to a lot of pains originally to paste a very nice illustration of a human skeleton over the "Patty" image from the film in a deliberately deceptive manner. While I was working with these photos, I noticed that the original artist had deleted half of the poor man on the right's cranial capacity in order to make his head seem to fit into the costume. HE LOOKED LIKE A PINHEAD. This was a deliberate misrepresentation and I have restored the man's forehead at left.

The pasteup redone by a second party has done an admirable job of pointing out (quite correctly) that "Patty" has a longer spine at a different angle than the man does, and the arms are longer and legs shorter when both are reduced to the same size.

Here is one of the original artist's attempts at doing the skeleton overlay. I do not know who is responsible, but the person made too large of a head at top (NOT aligned with the actual head depicted in the film), and has made the hands fall far short of the hands depicted in the film (which can be seen to flex and are NOT empty gloves), and pushjed the skeleyon's feet through the bottom of the assumed "Costume's" feet for a distance of several inches. Like I said, an obvious and quite unprofessional attempt to deceive the onlookers.

Below Left, a second artist demonstrates that the human skeleton is a mismatch for the proportions of the supposed costum going by the much shorter length of shin shown, and at right a public-domain illustration comparing a human skeleton to  that of a gorilla. "Patty's upper body shows several features more reminiscent of a gorilla's skeleton and the joints move consistently within that framework. John Green did say at one point that Sasquatch was basically like a gorilla with longer legs. See my older CFZ blog
 http://forteanzoology.blogspot.com/2009/12/dale-drinnon-on-identity-of-east-asian.html


This version has my attempt to morph the skeleton into a better representation of what the action of the body shows while walking. It is not a typical human skeleton but has several features like a gorilla: and on the whole it does resemble a larger version of a robust Australopithecine. Gigantopithecus and the Robust Australopithecines came from the same Sivapithecine ancestors and could very easily have parallel-evolved the same anatomy for walking upright.

Below are more comparisons from the Amazing Randi Educational Boards to show that Patti is built MUCH more broadly than a conventional human being, something like half again broader. The argument goes that you can make a suit that is that much broader than a human being but then you cannot have the human skeleton's shoulder and hip joints appear to move natually in the indicated places. What you need then is a basic skeleton that is half again broader than a normal human skeleton. And included is John Green's drawing from his book Sasquatch estimating the girths (circumferences) of Patty at different points.

A film for comparison was made after Patterson shot the original "Patty" sequence and using 6'6" Jim McLaren as a subject to show the scale. When he was at the same spot, the two sequences were cut together for this comparison. "Patty" is unquestionably much taller and bulkier than the man.

Below is a Pre-Film drawing of a female Sasquatch after Ostman's account compared to the film Patty. Patty is like the traditional Sasquatch of the older reports, only now we have a more precise view of what those reports were describing.


Nearly ALL of the arguments made above were previously made in GroverKrantz's book on Sasquatch and ALL exceptions to Krantz's statements are simply gainsaying the plain facts of the matter. And with this much to go on, any statements about Roger Patterson's dealings, financial affairs, trustworthiness or untrustworthiness, are all beside the point.

Grover Krantz
Anthropologist Grover Krantz offered an in-depth examination of the Patterson film.[35] He concluded that the film depicts a genuine unknown creature. Primarily, Krantz' argument is based on a detailed analysis of the figure's stride, center of gravity, and biomechanics. Krantz argues that the creature's leg and foot motions are quite different from a human's and could not have been duplicated by a person wearing a gorilla suit.[citation needed]
Krantz pointed out the tremendous width of the creature's shoulders, which (after deducting 1" for hair) he estimated at 28.2 inches, or 35.1% of its full standing height of 78", or a higher percentage of its 72" "walking height," which was a bit stooped, crouched, and sunk into the sand.[36] The creature's shoulders are almost 50% wider than the human mean. (For comparison, André the Giant had a typical human ratio of 24%. Wide-shouldered Bob Heironimus (see below) has 27.4%. Only very rarely do humans have a shoulder breadth of 30%.) Krantz argued that a suited person could not mimic this breadth and still have the naturalistic hand and arm motions present on the film.
Krantz wrote, "the knee is regularly bent more than 90°, while the human leg bends less than 70°." No human has yet replicated this level lower leg lift while maintaining the smoothness, posture, and stride length (41") of the creature.[citation needed]
Krantz and others have noted natural-looking musculature visible as the creature moved, arguing this would be highly difficult or impossible to fake. Hunter and Dahinden also note that "the bottom of the figure's head seems to become part of the heavy back and shoulder muscles... [and] the muscles of the buttocks were distinct"[37]
Krantz also interviewed Patterson extensively and, as noted below, thought Patterson lacked the technical skill and knowledge needed to create such a realistic-looking costume.
Krantz reports that in 1969 John Green (who at one point owned a first-generation copy of the original Patterson film) interviewed Disney executive Ken Peterson, who, after viewing the Patterson film, asserted "that their technicians would not be able to duplicate the film."[38] Krantz argues that if Disney personnel were unable to duplicate the film, there is little likelihood that Patterson could have done so.
More recently, Krantz showed the film to Gordon Valient, a researcher for Nike shoes, who he says "made some rather useful observations about some rather unhuman movements he could see."[38]
[38]Grover Krantz (1992). Big Footprints: A Scientific Inquiry Into the Reality of Sasquatch. Johnson Books. ISBN 1-555660-99-1.

My statement has always been that I defer to Krantz and nobody has ever shown any reason to say otherwise on the subject. And that means especially ANY non-experts in human and primate anatomy. [At this point I am unable to examine the statements made by David J. Daegling and Daniel O. Schmitt, but it would seem they were quite in error if they said the anatomical features I spoke of were NOT evident in the film. They were so evident, and Patty is NOT a man in a suit.
I am also putting this blog entry under the category of "Frauds and Hoaxes" as well, because IMHO, the skeptics who are trying to say that Patty could be a man in a suit and who produce such illustrations as the ones supposedly showing how a human skeleton would fit in there, which include such features as too large of a cranium going outside the outlines of the head or feet protruding below the level of the feet of the creature in the film, are knowingly being fraudulent in their misrepresentation and are collectively guilty of promulgating an actual HOAX.] 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patterson-Gimlin_film