I had mentioned before that Karl Shuker had an informant who spoke of a creature much like an orangutan inhabiting New Guinea. Whether this is the same or a different informant, here is one of Karl's blogs, which describes a creature from New Guinea with the corresponding height and description, and described with much the same sort of behaviour as ascribed to orangutan-like creatures in Mainland Southeast Asia and in the Phillipines:
http://karlshuker.blogspot.com/2010/01/kayadi-bigfoot-of-papua-new-guinea.html
Sunday, 10 January 2010
KAYADI - THE BIGFOOT OF PAPUA NEW GUINEA
[I do not intend to copy down Karl's entire blog but here is a paragraph of especial interest]
According to their accounts, this New Guinea ape-man, known to the Amto people as the kayadi, was at least man-sized (i.e. about 5 ft 5 in tall, judging from the average height of most native peoples on New Guinea), hirsute, and bipedal, but also able to climb trees very rapidly, and strong enough physically to throw humans if confronted. One Amti tribesman stated that in 1981 a kayadi had been startled by his uncle while digging for eggs in a cave near his village, and another claimed that a local girl had actually been kidnapped a while back by one of these man-beasts.
I see no reason why these reports could not also be illegally-captured and illegally-released orangutans such as the comparable creatures in Australia seem to be.
Best Wishes, Dale D.
Please note that the image that I used to illustrate my kayadi blog, and which has now been reproduced by Dale here alongside a photo of a orang utan is NOT an illustration of a kayadi, but is instead an illustration (by William Rebsamen) of a North American bigfoot (as the kayadi has been nicknamed a New Guinea bigfoot). So any direct pictorial comparisons between an orang utan and this bigfoot illustration when discussing the kayadi are not relevant. Also, Bill should be credited here as the creator and copyright holder of the latter illustration.
ReplyDeleteBest wishes, Karl
Hi Karl, But of Course: Bill should get all of the credit he deserves.
ReplyDeleteNOW we have a quandry. If the Kayadi is NOT a Bigfoot but more like an orangutan, and if the illustration is not (let's face it) a realistically close depiction of a North American Bigfoot BUT it is a fair representation of a Kayadi instead (which seems a fair statement given the description), wouldn't it be better to ask Bill if he might consider it to BE an illustration of a Kayadi rather than a North American Bigfoot? Otherwise it would seem that the error would have been on your original blog for putting up what would seem to be a very wrong illustration.
So ask Bill if he thinks that's all right. It could work that way.
Best Wishes, Dale D.
(PS, a Bigfoot is NOT supposed to walk in that sort of a posture but as you can see, the ape actually DOES walk that way.)
Karl, perhaps you are too close to your own blog to realize what has happened, but it was your own choice to call the New Guinea creature a "Bigfoot" and then, having done that, to choose that particular "Bigfoot" drawing to illustrate your own blog. It could be said that on a subconscious level that illustration seemed more "Right" to go with the descriptions and I have absolutely no problem with you going with a gut instinct in choosing the illustration, if that is what it was. As far as I can see, it turned out to be a good choice. When we are going on artistic representations, there are any number of Bigfoot interpretations, some more human-like and others more apelike. This was one of the more apelike ones and if you would prefer to call it a drawing of a "Yeti" to get the point across, that would work for me. You could also say Bill was drawing a Skunk Ape more than a typical NWC Sasquatch. The end result is still the same, the illustration tends toward the more apelike depictions. and I personally find it more appropriate for that very reason. So I don't have any problems with any of that.
ReplyDeleteBut of course it was your blog and if you feel I am badly misrepresenting the situation, I should be most happy to take it down.
Best Wishes, Dale D.