tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629061224332673795.post2952688840029236086..comments2023-07-15T05:32:20.508-07:00Comments on Frontiers of Zoology: Enfield Horror Is Also a FW-Monkey?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629061224332673795.post-69415182207921487872012-03-10T14:16:15.167-08:002012-03-10T14:16:15.167-08:00I suppose I can say I am wondering now whether we ...I suppose I can say I am wondering now whether we could have a different relative of the FW Macaque that is a long-tailed, long-faced (like the Celebes ape) more terrestrial creature, a New World Native Baboon in fact, which would be related to the FW monkey but only in that the two species are both macaques. Care would have to be stressed to separate the reports from actual strayed kangaroos which are regularly also reported (We had one report in Indianapolis a while back and evidently one of the zoo's wallabies had gotten loose somehow)<br /><br />Best Wishes, Dale D.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629061224332673795.post-73922049006139100932012-03-10T14:02:33.762-08:002012-03-10T14:02:33.762-08:00And @ Tyler, yes, we have had a recent upswing in ...And @ Tyler, yes, we have had a recent upswing in "Dogfaced Bigfoot" sightings more recently and they might be the same thing. A bigger, more baboon-muzzled monkey or ape could well fill the bill on that score, and some "Devil Monkeys" also specify a bushy "Wolf" tail as well. At that point you DO begin to wonder if they are "Skinwalker" hominids disguising themselves in wolfskins just as the Wendigo traditons state. There could be more than one explanation that might fit as well simultaneously, more specifics are needed to know for certain.<br /><br />Best Wishes, Dale D.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629061224332673795.post-41786434195447851952012-03-10T13:56:58.974-08:002012-03-10T13:56:58.974-08:00Thank you for posting. You have hit on a couple of...Thank you for posting. You have hit on a couple of different things which probably deserve discussion. Yes, the long=tailed "Devil Monkeys" are intensely interesting and they cannot be the same as the tailless kinds. They were my focus when I made my original tnative theory that there might be a surviving lemur in North America back in the SITU days: but later I got more and better evidence of the tailless kinds. Perhaps I shall do a blog on the longtailed kinds soon. The Louisian Biologist's drawings in the case you specify are compelling and hard to classify as anything that might be "Known"<br /><br />As for the Mapinguaris being orangutan-like apes; a lot hinges on their leaving the "bottlefoot" footprints. These are more like the tracks left by an ape that walks on the sides of its feet rather than any type of monkey. But yopu are right, many Natives compare them closely to howler monkeys as the most similar "Known" creatures. It is something of a matter of tast if you prefer the parallel-evolved-New-World Monkey theories to the South American "Ape " sightings or you go with the idea they are actually immigrant apes from SE Asia: my reading of the given data is that the latter theory is the better fit.<br /><br />Best Wishes, Dale D.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629061224332673795.post-70450648376553729272012-03-10T13:50:05.757-08:002012-03-10T13:50:05.757-08:00@Tamara I have actually had the same idea about &q...@Tamara I have actually had the same idea about "werewolves" myself. Just thought it would be worth sharingTyler Stonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03510615325159242706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-629061224332673795.post-12462057138972514462012-03-10T13:40:53.403-08:002012-03-10T13:40:53.403-08:00If the majority of devil monkey cases are aquatic ...If the majority of devil monkey cases are aquatic macaques than what do you think is behind the long muzzled & long-tailed 'phantom kangaroo' reports? A lot of the reports do seem rather similar to a lemur in appearance (such as this 1996 Louisiana sighting detailed at http://www.americanmonsters.com/site/2010/12/devil-monkeys-north-america/) and I have wondered if the same animal is behind the Beast of Bray road and similar 'werewolf' reports.<br /><br />Hope for a detailed post on the long-tailed monkey-type in the future.<br /><br />P.S. By the way could the South American orangutans be the result of convergent evolution rather than actual orangs? It seems to me that a very large short-tailed species of howler monkey could also fit the reports. Orange-red hair, vocal sacs, and native to the continent.Tamara Hensonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11547216895449679019noreply@blogger.com